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Post by innocentbystander on Mar 16, 2019 11:29:31 GMT
My council tax bill has just come with a colourful leaflet justifying a 12.5% increased contribution towards Staffordshire Police. I have no problem with that.
The leaflet features a photo of someone wearing a Community Payback tabard supposedly picking up litter. I'm out and about a fair bit, yet I've never ever seen this. Does it actually happen? I've always suspected that those sentenced to community service don't bother turning up for it, and that no lard-arsed bone idle civil servants have the appetite to make them do it.
Any one able to put me right?
If so - how can we get some prison- dodgers to pick up all the cans on the pedestrian approach to the stadium from Heron Cross? It doesn't look as if it's been done since the stadium was built.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 16, 2019 11:37:11 GMT
I do have an issue with the increase why should we make up the shortfall from central government? I already pay towards public sector provisions this is just another "tax" on people who can least afford it by a Tory commissioner.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 16, 2019 12:00:27 GMT
If you get sentenced to three months jail you make yourself unavailable for your job. Tough that’s life.
Three months jail should be 3 months on a tag. Community payback on minimum wage.
No jail, a wage, get to go home every night
Winner.
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Post by trentvale68 on Mar 16, 2019 12:59:50 GMT
We seem to be paying more for less. I've no doubt they will bring in that £36 charge to empty the garden bin in Stoke on Trent, the same as Newcastle. We've got a joke of a transport network and many folks on shifts are really struggling if they haven't got a car. It's scandalous. I was told as well that much of the council tax is being used to fund pensions which is a disgrace.
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Post by telfordstoke on Mar 16, 2019 13:04:32 GMT
If you get sentenced to three months jail you make yourself unavailable for your job. Tough that’s life. Three months jail should be 3 months on a tag. Community payback on minimum wage. No jail, a wage, get to go home every night Winner. Spent some time in Seattle a few years ago and they had something similar there. Guy I knew as an acquaintance of a friend got done for drink driving and got 8 weeks , which in actuality equated to him being on a tag, allowed to go to work every day but back in prison within 30 mins of finishing ( so he didn’t lose his job), and at weekends being part of a comm payback crew whilst in prison at night. Seemed like not a bad system to me
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Post by trentvale68 on Mar 16, 2019 13:16:48 GMT
If you get sentenced to three months jail you make yourself unavailable for your job. Tough that’s life. Three months jail should be 3 months on a tag. Community payback on minimum wage. No jail, a wage, get to go home every night Winner. Spent some time in Seattle a few years ago and they had something similar there. Guy I knew as an acquaintance of a friend got done for drink driving and got 8 weeks , which in actuality equated to him being on a tag, allowed to go to work every day but back in prison within 30 mins of finishing ( so he didn’t lose his job), and at weekends being part of a comm payback crew whilst in prison at night. Seemed like not a bad system to me That's an excellent idea, someone losing their job is often likely to push someone further down the criminal road. There are many different options available. Curfews are a good idea for lesser offences. I'd be right narked if I was tagged and was prevented from going out for a beer (like I do every night) for a year. I don't drink in the house so I'd be gutted. I enjoy the company too. Obv if you break the curfew then you might warrant a custodial sentence. Too many people in prison for financial crime that could be dealt with in other ways and not enough people doing hard time for violence which should be stamped on hard. I make an exception for burglary which I do treat as violent crime and should be dealt with in similar terms.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 16, 2019 18:52:45 GMT
We seem to be paying more for less. I've no doubt they will bring in that £36 charge to empty the garden bin in Stoke on Trent, the same as Newcastle. We've got a joke of a transport network and many folks on shifts are really struggling if they haven't got a car. It's scandalous. I was told as well that much of the council tax is being used to fund pensions which is a disgrace. I'm seemingly in a minority but if they bought the £36 garden bin charge I'd have no problem with it and would happily pay it. As I see it, currently folk who have no garden are paying towards me getting rid of my garden rubbish for 'free', in their shoes I'd be a bit pissed off. Just my tuppence worth
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 17, 2019 13:06:24 GMT
We seem to be paying more for less. I've no doubt they will bring in that £36 charge to empty the garden bin in Stoke on Trent, the same as Newcastle. We've got a joke of a transport network and many folks on shifts are really struggling if they haven't got a car. It's scandalous. I was told as well that much of the council tax is being used to fund pensions which is a disgrace. I'm seemingly in a minority but if they bought the £36 garden bin charge I'd have no problem with it and would happily pay it. As I see it, currently folk who have no garden are paying towards me getting rid of my garden rubbish for 'free', in their shoes I'd be a bit pissed off. Just my tuppence worth A My garden bin charge is an additional payment over and above my council tax
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 17, 2019 13:13:53 GMT
It’s normally early in the morning, I see them quite often in Hanley when I arrive for work emptying the bins, bright orange hi-vis’s on.
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Post by murphthesurf on Mar 17, 2019 13:45:58 GMT
My council tax bill has just come with a colourful leaflet justifying a 12.5% increased contribution towards Staffordshire Police. I have no problem with that. The leaflet features a photo of someone wearing a Community Payback tabard supposedly picking up litter. I'm out and about a fair bit, yet I've never ever seen this. Does it actually happen? I've always suspected that those sentenced to community service don't bother turning up for it, and that no lard-arsed bone idle civil servants have the appetite to make them do it. Any one able to put me right? If so - how can we get some prison- dodgers to pick up all the cans on the pedestrian approach to the stadium from Heron Cross? It doesn't look as if it's been done since the stadium was built. Went to Newcastle one afternoon about 5 years ago and on my way back to the carpark there were 2 or 3 chaps in one of the subways, scrubbing the graffiti off the walls. I was SO impressed at their public-spiritedness, and as I walked past I gave them a dazzling smile and said "You're doing a great job, chaps - keep up the good work". I was going to also add some unpleasant crack about the 'low-life scum' who do all the graffiti' but I was past them by then. It suddenly occurred to me, some time later, that I could easily have got my face filled in because they were quite probably doing Community Service….. possibly for graffiti-ing.......
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Post by elystokie on Mar 17, 2019 14:08:02 GMT
I'm seemingly in a minority but if they bought the £36 garden bin charge I'd have no problem with it and would happily pay it. As I see it, currently folk who have no garden are paying towards me getting rid of my garden rubbish for 'free', in their shoes I'd be a bit pissed off. Just my tuppence worth A My garden bin charge is an additional payment over and above my council tax I think it's the only fair way to operate the service if I'm honest. I think they collect garden refuse bi-weekly for about 9 months around here, that's about a quid a week for the whole period if the charge is £36 a year, I don't think that's bad, people can always compost if it upsets them that much.
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Post by trentvale68 on Mar 17, 2019 14:17:16 GMT
My council tax bill has just come with a colourful leaflet justifying a 12.5% increased contribution towards Staffordshire Police. I have no problem with that. The leaflet features a photo of someone wearing a Community Payback tabard supposedly picking up litter. I'm out and about a fair bit, yet I've never ever seen this. Does it actually happen? I've always suspected that those sentenced to community service don't bother turning up for it, and that no lard-arsed bone idle civil servants have the appetite to make them do it. Any one able to put me right? If so - how can we get some prison- dodgers to pick up all the cans on the pedestrian approach to the stadium from Heron Cross? It doesn't look as if it's been done since the stadium was built. Went to Newcastle one afternoon about 5 years ago and on my way back to the carpark there were 2 or 3 chaps in one of the subways, scrubbing the graffiti off the walls. I was SO impressed at their public-spiritedness, and as I walked past I gave them a dazzling smile and said "You're doing a great job, chaps - keep up the good work". I was going to also add some unpleasant crack about the 'low-life scum' who do all the graffiti' but I was past them by then. It suddenly occurred to me, some time later, that I could easily have got my face filled in because they were quite probably doing Community Service….. possibly for graffiti-ing....... You'd have been OK, it's not as if yobs this day would hit a woman 🙄
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 17, 2019 16:35:19 GMT
A My garden bin charge is an additional payment over and above my council tax I think it's the only fair way to operate the service if I'm honest. I think they collect garden refuse bi-weekly for about 9 months around here, that's about a quid a week for the whole period if the charge is £36 a year, I don't think that's bad, people can always compost if it upsets them that much. Yep it's good value as I don't have need of compost , anyway it's a faf to make and cheap to buy
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 17, 2019 16:43:10 GMT
My council tax bill has just come with a colourful leaflet justifying a 12.5% increased contribution towards Staffordshire Police. I have no problem with that. The leaflet features a photo of someone wearing a Community Payback tabard supposedly picking up litter. I'm out and about a fair bit, yet I've never ever seen this. Does it actually happen? I've always suspected that those sentenced to community service don't bother turning up for it, and that no lard-arsed bone idle civil servants have the appetite to make them do it. Any one able to put me right? If so - how can we get some prison- dodgers to pick up all the cans on the pedestrian approach to the stadium from Heron Cross? It doesn't look as if it's been done since the stadium was built. Community service is often given instead of prison. If they don’t fulfill their duty they will be called back before the Beak
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 17, 2019 17:14:03 GMT
A My garden bin charge is an additional payment over and above my council tax I think it's the only fair way to operate the service if I'm honest. I think they collect garden refuse bi-weekly for about 9 months around here, that's about a quid a week for the whole period if the charge is £36 a year, I don't think that's bad, people can always compost if it upsets them that much. We have our own compost facility in our village. A local farmer has donated some land for this purpose, you can take your garden arising to the compost site where it is turned into compost. Compost is available free to villagers and you just collect what you want in bags or buckets. It works very well with the additional benefit to the village of attracting a small levy from the district council because they don’t have to collect it.
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Post by murphthesurf on Mar 18, 2019 9:47:44 GMT
Went to Newcastle one afternoon about 5 years ago and on my way back to the carpark there were 2 or 3 chaps in one of the subways, scrubbing the graffiti off the walls. I was SO impressed at their public-spiritedness, and as I walked past I gave them a dazzling smile and said "You're doing a great job, chaps - keep up the good work". I was going to also add some unpleasant crack about the 'low-life scum' who do all the graffiti' but I was past them by then. It suddenly occurred to me, some time later, that I could easily have got my face filled in because they were quite probably doing Community Service….. possibly for graffiti-ing....... You'd have been OK, it's not as if yobs this day would hit a woman 🙄 Well they all had wet brushes in their hands so I suppose they could've given me a pasting........... I'll get me coat.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 18, 2019 13:10:51 GMT
A My garden bin charge is an additional payment over and above my council tax I think it's the only fair way to operate the service if I'm honest. I think they collect garden refuse bi-weekly for about 9 months around here, that's about a quid a week for the whole period if the charge is £36 a year, I don't think that's bad, people can always compost if it upsets them that much. The new scheme in Newcastle runs bi-weekly for 12 months of the year now. The subscription is paid yearly ending 31st December so the £36 for this first year is a little short changed because the scheme only started in Feb. But it's pretty reasonable.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 18, 2019 13:13:43 GMT
Talking about community payback this came through this morning. Not often they have actually names and photos.... Hello ,
We are appealing to the public to get in touch if they have seen, or have any information on the whereabouts of three men we want to speak to following a series of distraction burglaries.
John Purcell, aged 28, Michael Purcell, aged 31, and Johnny Delaney, aged 22, are wanted in connection with a series of distraction burglaries which occurred across Staffordshire and North Wales where vulnerable pensioners were targeted.
The men have connections to Staffordshire, Cheshire, West Midlands and North Wales.
Anyone with information is urged to contact Staffordshire Police on 101 referring to incident number 413 of 4 March 2019.
We are making a series of appeals regarding this case on BBC’s Crimewatch Roadshow.
Alternatively, please call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111.
If you need to reply regarding this message, click on this email address: nw@staffordshire.pnn.police.uk
Regards,
Lydia Hooley
Community Engagement Officer
Community Messaging
Email: nw@staffordshire.pnn.police.uk
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Post by elystokie on Mar 18, 2019 14:44:43 GMT
I think it's the only fair way to operate the service if I'm honest. I think they collect garden refuse bi-weekly for about 9 months around here, that's about a quid a week for the whole period if the charge is £36 a year, I don't think that's bad, people can always compost if it upsets them that much. The new scheme in Newcastle runs bi-weekly for 12 months of the year now. The subscription is paid yearly ending 31st December so the £36 for this first year is a little short changed because the scheme only started in Feb. But it's pretty reasonable. They collected ours this morning, very nice of them 12 months is a bit much imo, they'll be driving an empty truck around for some months in the winter I reckon.
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