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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2019 21:42:51 GMT
Well that was woeful
Where is a glimpse, just a glimpse of the fast attacking football Jones talked about
This was Pulisball at its worst
If we are building for next season his subs are beyond bizzare
Why cant our players just control a ball
Shawcross, Batth and Butland and maybe Edwards well done
Midfield total crap
What an awful negative game again No relation to what he talks about
Dreadful stuff How far we have sunk
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 21:46:36 GMT
What he wants and what he can do with a shit squad are two different things. Thank Mr Rowett for assembling a squad with absolutely no attacking threat. Absolute pile of shit that stoke
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 13, 2019 21:47:15 GMT
I feel for you and those making the trips to watch this so called entertainment.
At the end we were playing 7-2-1 formation.
Well we ground out a nil nil to solidify our 17th place in the league. Well done Mr Jones I suppose
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2019 21:47:57 GMT
What he wants and what he can do with a shit squad are two different things. Thank Mr Rowett for assembling a squad with absolutely no attacking threat. Absolute pile of shit that stoke Been the same for 4 years now Very worrying
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 13, 2019 21:48:27 GMT
Well that was woeful Where is a glimpse, just a glimpse of the fast attacking football Jones talked about This was Pulisball at its worst If we are building for next season his subs are beyond bizzare Why cant our players just control a ball Shawcross, Batth and Butland and maybe Edwards well done Midfield total crap What an awful negative game again No relation to what he talks about Dreadful stuff How far we have sunk Can't argue with any of that and please accept my apologies for not being to answer any of your queries....I have no fuckin idea where we are supposed to heading!
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Post by stokeson on Mar 13, 2019 21:49:04 GMT
What he wants and what he can do with a shit squad are two different things. Thank Mr Rowett for assembling a squad with absolutely no attacking threat. Absolute pile of shit that stoke Yes Derby will do well to get up.
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Post by greystokie on Mar 13, 2019 21:49:33 GMT
There was only one player on the pitch that the manager has brought into the club and he did ok, tonight. The defence is much more organised than with previous managers but the rest is still sub par
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2019 21:50:11 GMT
I feel for you and those making the trips to watch this so called entertainment. At the end we were playing 7-2-1 formation. Well we ground out a nil nil to solidify our 17th place in the league. Well done Mr Jones I suppose Exactly what is the [oint in grounding out a point? Yet agian another manger not risking a kid when it means f all - Fletcher for goodness sake What does that prove? Same with Williams Coward tactics
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 13, 2019 21:50:31 GMT
Lambert Mark II
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Post by Fred Merger on Mar 13, 2019 21:50:32 GMT
Shocking performance from Joe Allen and Tom Ince, thought Ince would be a bit wound up tonight but looked like a 10 year old playing with bigger and better kids!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 13, 2019 21:50:53 GMT
Suffolk I always respect your view and of course dedication but on this one we differ . Jones. Was faced with a tailspin and real danger of the dreaded double fall , and players he didn’t know , in rekindling Adam and shawcross and signing DB he has made us better not good just a bit better . He needs time and patience that’s what we all had to Sign up for the day he was appointed, we changed direction, it’s going to be a while yet , but I think it’s a start My one fear is as of the summer he will be at the mercy of the worst transfer team ever put together in the history of U.K. probably global football that will be his ultimate test .
still as I started your decimation is beyond doubt so it’s just a little tolerance and patience I’m counselling
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 21:51:48 GMT
What he wants and what he can do with a shit squad are two different things. Thank Mr Rowett for assembling a squad with absolutely no attacking threat. Absolute pile of shit that stoke GR has A LOT to answer for. But, and I hate to say it, that was NJ today. He had Verlinden and Bojan and he played Woods who we all know doesn’t seem to understand that it’s not a fucking rugby match and you’re allowed to pass forwards. I mean, Jesus if we were clutching at straws, Bauer at least has a bit of life about him and can play on the wing shove McClean up top and stick Bauer on the left. No imagination whatsoever.
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Post by liathroid on Mar 13, 2019 21:52:01 GMT
Well that was woeful Where is a glimpse, just a glimpse of the fast attacking football Jones talked about This was Pulisball at its worst If we are building for next season his subs are beyond bizzare Why cant our players just control a ball Shawcross, Batth and Butland and maybe Edwards well done Midfield total crap What an awful negative game again No relation to what he talks about Dreadful stuff How far we have sunk lets finish this season and give Jones a chance
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 21:52:20 GMT
What he wants and what he can do with a shit squad are two different things. Thank Mr Rowett for assembling a squad with absolutely no attacking threat. Absolute pile of shit that stoke Except this shit is worse than Rowett's shit....I'm sure the stats will back that up never mind the spectacle
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Post by stoke60 on Mar 13, 2019 21:53:37 GMT
Absolute dross, midfield offer nothing, no attacking threat & body language of Ince & Diouf shocking.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 13, 2019 21:53:53 GMT
Hmm.
Well, you can't say they aren't organised and giving it everything they've got.
And that's a massive positive and good to see.
At least we're back to the base levels of Rowett's largely uninspiring undefeated run.
But it's exposing how utterly talentless we are. Slow of thought and body with zero goals in the squad.
When two of your main hopes for goals are McClean and Diouf, you may as well give up.
Entertainment-wise, it was all very Pulis-esque.
It's going to be a slow process, but he deserves time
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2019 21:54:05 GMT
Suffolk I always respect your view and of course dedication but on this one we differ . Jones. Was faced with a tailspin and real danger of the dreaded double fall , and players he didn’t know , in rekindling Adam and shawcross and signing DB he has made us better not good just a bit better . He needs time and patience that’s what we all had to Sign up for the day he was appointed, we changed direction, it’s going to be a while yet , but I think it’s a start My one fear is as of the summer he will be at the mercy of the worst transfer team ever put together in the history of U.K. probably global football that will be his ultimate test . still as I started your decimation is beyond doubt so it’s just a little tolerance and patience I’m counselling I have always said and agree with you way beyond just the manager - but his subs today where as bad as any I have seen No looking forward at all
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 21:56:16 GMT
I feel for you and those making the trips to watch this so called entertainment. At the end we were playing 7-2-1 formation. Well we ground out a nil nil to solidify our 17th place in the league. Well done Mr Jones I suppose Hopefully 16th
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2019 21:56:23 GMT
Well that was woeful Where is a glimpse, just a glimpse of the fast attacking football Jones talked about This was Pulisball at its worst If we are building for next season his subs are beyond bizzare Why cant our players just control a ball Shawcross, Batth and Butland and maybe Edwards well done Midfield total crap What an awful negative game again No relation to what he talks about Dreadful stuff How far we have sunk lets finish this season and give Jones a chance Not calling for his head at all BUT why not try Verlinden Why put on Williams and Fletcher - we are playing for nothing so why not experiment and find out some stuff for next season? Underwhlemed by his walk against his talk to date
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 21:56:33 GMT
Sheffield Wednesday were 4 points behind us when Bruce went in there. As shit as we’d been under Rowett, they were worse.
We now find ourselves looking up at them.
I’m giving Jones time, because he needs it, and we can’t keep just changing managers.
But....I think Jones has under-performed with this squad of players, just my opinion, should have done better.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 13, 2019 21:57:36 GMT
Jesus it’s a decent point , the bloke is showing some leadership and willingness to stand up and be counted , he was also missing 30% of his first choice starters , he had to get the house stable , people are simply taking out years of frustration on a bloke just starting the job of putting it right , if you want to have a go look in the stands not th3 dug out , he certainly didn’t spend £190m getting us relegated and gibe Wimmer snd co juicy contracts etc.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2019 21:59:44 GMT
Jesus it’s a decent point , the bloke is showing some leadership and willingness to stand up and be counted , he was also missing 30% of his first choice starters , he had to get the house stable , people are simply taking out years of frustration on a bloke just starting the job of putting it right , if you want to have a go look in the stands not th3 dug out , he certainly didn’t spend £190m getting us relegated and gibe Wimmer snd co juicy contracts etc. It really is not a decent point Points do not matter now where we are His subs prove nothing That is the main point
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 13, 2019 22:01:12 GMT
Suffolk I always respect your view and of course dedication but on this one we differ . Jones. Was faced with a tailspin and real danger of the dreaded double fall , and players he didn’t know , in rekindling Adam and shawcross and signing DB he has made us better not good just a bit better . He needs time and patience that’s what we all had to Sign up for the day he was appointed, we changed direction, it’s going to be a while yet , but I think it’s a start My one fear is as of the summer he will be at the mercy of the worst transfer team ever put together in the history of U.K. probably global football that will be his ultimate test . still as I started your decimation is beyond doubt so it’s just a little tolerance and patience I’m counselling Bang on all of that. The biggest challenge NJ has is dealing with our transfer team which by its record is totally and unquestionably totally gash. Yet we don't really know who does what so apparently it would seem we as fans can't shout about it without being accused of trying to get innocent people sacked. After deliberation this doesn't bother me, Carto out and Scholes out. They have presided over total shit for far too long and need to go now. And by not getting rid of them the Coates are also to blame. Sort it out and sort it out quickly or it will be lashings of the same shit pie that we have been wolfing down for the last 4 years next season and beyond.
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Post by huuuuuth on Mar 13, 2019 22:01:55 GMT
Jones has been left with a right old bag of shit. Fact. The defence (with 3 clean sheets on the bounce) now looks much more of the “try and score past us if you can” mentality, rather than “here you go mate, have a goal or seven” Ryan Shawcross has rolled back the years with Batth at his side Give NJ the time and he’ll see us right
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Post by greebo on Mar 13, 2019 22:06:32 GMT
Ok it’s hard to watch considering where we were, but first step is to stop the rot and we are for the first time in ages looking tight at the back and hard to beat. I don’t see any way that would have happened under our previous thre managers.
I don’t think we will know until next year whether Jones will be as good at this level or out of his depth, but we have taken the punt on him so let’s give him the time he needs to have a fair crack. Let’s face it, it was seldom pretty under TP but overall the ride wasn’t bad.
One thing though, will someone bite the bullet and tell Diouf that he is not a striker in any shape or form. I really like the bloke, he gives his all for the club whatever is asked of him, but he doesn’t have the control or scoring instinct of a striker. He has shown more as a full back than striker, so why not stop the pretence and focus him on a role he can do?
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Post by wuzza on Mar 13, 2019 22:10:03 GMT
What is NJ’s attacking ‘concept’ ? I would be genuinely interested to know the thought process. It seems on the face of it to be a hopeful punt up top and see if anyone can get hold of it ( and even if they do there is no one else within a country mile of them ). I just don’t see the hint of anything that’s been thought out.
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Post by ethers26 on Mar 13, 2019 22:14:03 GMT
Very good: Butland Edwards
Okay: Batth Shawcross BMI Adam
Wank: Everyone else, bar 3, who were...
Especially wank: Woods Allen Diouf
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Post by greebo on Mar 13, 2019 22:14:17 GMT
You can’t go from where we were to free flowing attacking football ithout sorting out the back first. Considering he has only actually brought in one new player I think jones has done a pretty good job in that dept. Finishing the job will take another window at least.
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Post by andystokey on Mar 13, 2019 22:17:24 GMT
Ok it’s hard to watch considering where we were, but first step is to stop the rot and we are for the first time in ages looking tight at the back and hard to beat. I don’t see any way that would have happened under our previous thre managers. I don’t think we will know until next year whether Jones will be as good at this level or out of his depth, but we have taken the punt on him so let’s give him the time he needs to have a fair crack. Let’s face it, it was seldom pretty under TP but overall the ride wasn’t bad. One thing though, will someone bite the bullet and tell Diouf that he is not a striker in any shape or form. I really like the bloke, he gives his all for the club whatever is asked of him, but he doesn’t have the control or scoring instinct of a striker. He has shown more as a full back than striker, so why not stop the pretence and focus him on a role he can do? Let's be clear Saido should never play for Stoke again. Vokes was injured Afobe came off injured He took Diouf as backup Who else did he have to play as an outball?
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Post by eriksson74 on Mar 13, 2019 22:18:05 GMT
Jesus it’s a decent point , the bloke is showing some leadership and willingness to stand up and be counted , he was also missing 30% of his first choice starters , he had to get the house stable , people are simply taking out years of frustration on a bloke just starting the job of putting it right , if you want to have a go look in the stands not th3 dug out , he certainly didn’t spend £190m getting us relegated and gibe Wimmer snd co juicy contracts etc. It really is not a decent point Points do not matter now where we are His subs prove nothing That is the main point It is a decent point, we have 4 points against Derby, 3 at home and a point away. When you look that's what's required and what you aim for. Got to admit, have to agree with Benji and his comments on this thread.
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