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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 17:36:11 GMT
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 10, 2019 18:31:36 GMT
There's a wide mix of nationalities because i think it was a flight to a UN convention RIP to all involved and deepest condolences to their families |
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Post by vokeswagen on Mar 10, 2019 19:56:09 GMT
Christ. Terrible. RIP
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Post by alsagerstokie on Mar 10, 2019 20:06:38 GMT
RIP rare events these but deadly.
Will it be down to Boeing then to find the falt and have to answer questions assuming it wasnt pilot error?
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Post by telfordstoke on Mar 10, 2019 20:26:13 GMT
Very sad news, heart goes out to all the families concerned
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 20:33:37 GMT
RIP rare events these but deadly. Will it be down to Boeing then to find the falt and have to answer questions assuming it wasnt pilot error? Obviously nothing has so far been determined but I saw a news report which stated that the initial thoughts are that there is an inherent design problem with the plane design. It is a new model B737-800 Max (this plane was only 4 months old) which has a slightly different engine design which requires the engines to be mounted higher on the wings than on the conventional B737-800 plane. This configuration can cause the balance of the plane to be affected in certain weather conditions which has caused Boeing to issue a modification and also issue a Technical Bulletin to airlines advising them of the potential problem. There was a crash with Lion Air (?) recently and the Ethiopian crash apparently seems to be very similar. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 20:54:24 GMT
RIP rare events these but deadly. Will it be down to Boeing then to find the falt and have to answer questions assuming it wasnt pilot error? Obviously nothing has so far been determined but I saw a news report which stated that the initial thoughts are that there is an inherent design problem with the plane design. It is a new model B737-800 Max (this plane was only 4 months old) which has a slightly different engine design which requires the engines to be mounted higher on the wings than on the conventional B737-800 plane. This configuration can cause the balance of the plane to be affected in certain weather conditions which has caused Boeing to issue a modification and also issue a Technical Bulletin to airlines advising them of the potential problem. There was a crash with Lion Air (?) recently and the Ethiopian crash apparently seems to be very similar. Hear hear..I was in Batam/Singapore in January for 3 weeks and then went to Bali from Singapore, I was told to avoid to avoid booking Lion Air so i booked with Air Asia....apparently the Lion flight that crashed had a issue the day before so it flew back to base , but instead of grounding the plane, it took off again instead of going in for Maintenance |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 21:01:00 GMT
Obviously nothing has so far been determined but I saw a news report which stated that the initial thoughts are that there is an inherent design problem with the plane design. It is a new model B737-800 Max (this plane was only 4 months old) which has a slightly different engine design which requires the engines to be mounted higher on the wings than on the conventional B737-800 plane. This configuration can cause the balance of the plane to be affected in certain weather conditions which has caused Boeing to issue a modification and also issue a Technical Bulletin to airlines advising them of the potential problem. There was a crash with Lion Air (?) recently and the Ethiopian crash apparently seems to be very similar. Hear hear..I was in Batam/Singapore in January for 3 weeks and then went to Bali from Singapore, I was told to avoid to avoid booking Lion Air so i booked with Air Asia....apparently the Lion flight that crashed had a issue the day before so it flew back to base , but instead of grounding the plane, it took off again instead of going in for Maintenance It seems the Ethiopian plane was in trouble and intending to return to the airport, but sadly never made it. Looks like Boeing have a big problem, if this is ultimately found to be the cause of the crash. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 21:06:00 GMT
Hear hear..I was in Batam/Singapore in January for 3 weeks and then went to Bali from Singapore, I was told to avoid to avoid booking Lion Air so i booked with Air Asia....apparently the Lion flight that crashed had a issue the day before so it flew back to base , but instead of grounding the plane, it took off again instead of going in for Maintenance It seems the Ethiopian plane was in trouble and intending to return to the airport, but sadly never made it. Looks like Boeing have a big problem, if this is ultimately found to be the cause of the crash. Yes Mate, I love flying, it is part of the holiday for me, but the fact that it has to do with a new plane makes it worse.. we shall see |
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Post by alsagerstokie on Mar 10, 2019 21:20:51 GMT
It seems the Ethiopian plane was in trouble and intending to return to the airport, but sadly never made it. Looks like Boeing have a big problem, if this is ultimately found to be the cause of the crash. Yes Mate, I love flying, it is part of the holiday for me, but the fact that it has to do with a new plane makes it worse.. we shall see Wonder why they never seem to go down in Europe. Touch wood they never do. |
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Mar 10, 2019 23:29:52 GMT
R.I.P.
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Post by felonious on Mar 11, 2019 12:49:09 GMT
There was a comment on the Radio this morning saying that Ethiopian Airlines has an excellent safety record, the best in Africa and that several nations have now grounded these planes awaiting interim reports.
It's a sad loss of life.
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Post by Pedropotter on Mar 11, 2019 14:16:25 GMT
I went to Lanzarote with Tui last month. I think it was on one of the 737s. It was only its second flight, I asked the steward if that was a good thing or a bad thing. My heart goes out to those that have perished, it must be a bloody awful way to go.
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Post by 3putts on Mar 11, 2019 14:20:10 GMT
rip to those concerned. deeply disturbing that two relatively new planes should go down. just hear on the news that there are only 400 planes in service at the moment but boeing has orders for 5,000. in the uk I believe tui fly this plane and also ryanair has plans to introduce them soon
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Post by 3putts on Mar 11, 2019 14:21:44 GMT
I went to Lanzarote with Tui last month. I think it was on one of the 737s. It was only its second flight, I asked the steward if that was a good thing or a bad thing. My heart goes out to those that have perished, it must be a bloody awful way to go. I did gran canaria last sept it was a newish 737 but I am not sure if it was the new 8max, frightening that could have been me |
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Post by Pedropotter on Mar 11, 2019 14:47:20 GMT
I went to Lanzarote with Tui last month. I think it was on one of the 737s. It was only its second flight, I asked the steward if that was a good thing or a bad thing. My heart goes out to those that have perished, it must be a bloody awful way to go. I did gran canaria last sept it was a newish 737 but I am not sure if it was the new 8max, frightening that could have been me Possibly - Link |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 18:41:16 GMT
Gulp ! Me and the missus are going to Lanzarote on Thursday with Tui. Don't think I'll tell the missus which type of aircraft we might be flying on.
Wish us luck fellas !
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 11, 2019 18:50:10 GMT
Seems that this plane is largely computer flown. Problem is, it’s been so ‘agile’ in it evolution that ‘workarounds’ have had to be included, which makes it unwieldy & if the pilot tries to intervene, Al goes mental nose dives.
Thing is with self driving cars, if some rare accident happens a few people might die. Doesn’t work that way with planes
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Post by felonious on Mar 11, 2019 18:55:10 GMT
Gulp ! Me and the missus are going to Lanzarote on Thursday with Tui. Don't think I'll tell the missus which type of aircraft we might be flying on. Wish us luck fellas ! #prayfordeeside  |
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Post by felonious on Mar 11, 2019 19:05:07 GMT
Gulp ! Me and the missus are going to Lanzarote on Thursday with Tui. Don't think I'll tell the missus which type of aircraft we might be flying on. Wish us luck fellas ! On another note I also survived the TUI trip to Lanzarote three months back. |
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Post by yeokel on Mar 12, 2019 14:41:12 GMT
Gulp ! Me and the missus are going to Lanzarote on Thursday with Tui. Don't think I'll tell the missus which type of aircraft we might be flying on. Wish us luck fellas ! Boeing 737 Max 8 banned from UK airspace now, so you might be ok. (or, you might not be going  ) BBC linkHave a nice holiday. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 17:43:59 GMT
Gulp ! Me and the missus are going to Lanzarote on Thursday with Tui. Don't think I'll tell the missus which type of aircraft we might be flying on. Wish us luck fellas ! Boeing 737 Max 8 banned from UK airspace now, so you might be ok. (or, you might not be going ) BBC linkHave a nice holiday. Thanks mate ! We haven't heard of any cancelled flights.....yet |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 12, 2019 19:49:28 GMT
There goes more justification against my fear of flying.
Bastard horrible airborne steel cocks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 21:58:32 GMT
Boeing has now grounded all B737 Max 8 worldwide aircraft following discovery of "new evidence" at the Ethiopian crash scene.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Mar 13, 2019 22:20:52 GMT
It turns out that the company that supplies the satellite data that lead to the decision to ground the planes, sent the data to the FAA in the US on Monday, and to Canada on Tuesday night (don't know when the CAA got it in the UK). The UK acted very quickly to ground the planes and Canada were much faster than the USA to act. The US were pretty much the last country to act upon the data.
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Post by felonious on Mar 14, 2019 6:41:55 GMT
It turns out that the company that supplies the satellite data that lead to the decision to ground the planes, sent the data to the FAA in the US on Monday, and to Canada on Tuesday night (don't know when the CAA got it in the UK). The UK acted very quickly to ground the planes and Canada were much faster than the USA to act. The US were pretty much the last country to act upon the data. Where are the planes made Ritchie? |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Mar 14, 2019 6:57:57 GMT
It turns out that the company that supplies the satellite data that lead to the decision to ground the planes, sent the data to the FAA in the US on Monday, and to Canada on Tuesday night (don't know when the CAA got it in the UK). The UK acted very quickly to ground the planes and Canada were much faster than the USA to act. The US were pretty much the last country to act upon the data. Where are the planes made Ritchie? Surely you're not suggesting that the leaderless FAA was influenced by The Whitehouse and Boeing? |
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Post by felonious on Mar 14, 2019 7:21:00 GMT
Where are the planes made Ritchie? Surely you're not suggesting that the leaderless FAA was influenced by The Whitehouse and Boeing? The Boeing statement a couple of days ago was quite frightening. They knew the sensor was giving a false reading and turning the nose down automatically to deal with imagined weather scenarios but Boeing was giving pilots extra training to ignore the reading and to override it. Frightening. |
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