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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 23, 2019 17:31:59 GMT
Butland 6, didn't do much wrong, but didn't have too much to do either.
Edwards 4, struggled for pace the whole game and had a terrible second half. I think his lack of pace played a big part in their goal. Batth 6, had an OK game, but nothing special. Indi 6, same as Batth really. Clucas 6, one assist and had a decent game.
Ince 4, thought he was very anonymous this afternoon. Allen 5, worked hard, but that was about it. Adam 6, was OK, but tired early. Etebo 6.5, MOM our best midfielder today, but not very creative.
Vokes 6, was sadly missed after he had to go off. McClean 5, a lot of effort, but really not much impact.
Diouf 5, worked hard, but didn't look match fit. Williams 6, thought he did OK after coming on. Afobe 3, well I watched him coming on, but did we see him after that?
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Post by thehoof on Feb 23, 2019 17:49:20 GMT
Butland 7 - two good saves Edwards 5 - shocking lack of pace for the equaliser Batth 6 - gave away several daft fouls but won most of his headers Bruno 5- how hard is it to make sure you’ve got the right boots on? His slip should have been a goal, thank god it wasn’t. Clucas 5.5-wasn’t too bad at LB- non existent in midfield. Adam 6 - at least we look as if we will go forward when he’s on Allen 7- He tries and at least looks interested Etebo- 6, he really struggles when he has time to think. Ince 2 - usual can’t be arsed show. Vokes-7 looked good until his injury. McLean 6-tried and looked as if he cared.
Diouf-0, not far off the worst plAyer I’ve ever seen. Afobe-4, never looked remotely dangerous. Williams 5-outjumped by Abraham’s for one of Butlands saves, otherwise no worse than the other defenders ( Batth was the best of the back 4)
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Post by nott1 on Feb 23, 2019 17:50:45 GMT
Bojan 10.....he's better off out of it!
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Post by liathroid on Feb 23, 2019 17:54:19 GMT
Bojan 10.....he's better cumming on me!
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Post by sportsman on Feb 23, 2019 17:56:22 GMT
Can't he arsed rate any of then. Every one can leave.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 23, 2019 18:14:09 GMT
Not sure what was more embarrassing today, Dioufs performance or Allen getting motm.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 18:19:34 GMT
Thought Edwards was bright and really good in parts as well as 2 lapses in concentration. Very tidy and did well enough. Butland 7 - Love his attitude, 2 good saves , Kicking was ok. Edwards 6 - Did alright, needs a real leader with him imo. Batth 6 - few silly fouls did the shawcross role well. Bruno 5- As mentioned above: "His slip should have been a goal, thank god it wasn’t." Clucas 7 - Still the odd stray ball being played to no-one but I actually thought he was solid today especially the first 20 minutes. Adam 7.8 - Very good, far too clever for their lot who could only foul him for the first 30. talied off at the end. Allen 7- Clever today, did the dirty work but compliments to his tidiness more than anything. Etebo- 6, There's a really good player in there somewhere... Ince 5 - Had a bit of a go this time at least, failed to really take anyone on. Vokes-7 What a clever clever goal, Everything stuck to him before his injury, shame really. McLean 6- Good assist - really bright in the first 5 mins, unfortunately, thinks he's much better than he is.. Diouf-3, Lazy, Unfit, Disinterested - off you fuck. Afobe-4, Bloody useless - Never should've signed him and especially not for that price. I told you so... Williams 3 No.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 18:43:48 GMT
Butland and Etebo 7.
Edwards, Ince and Diouf 5
Everyone else 6.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Feb 23, 2019 18:55:50 GMT
Butland - 7: No chance with the goal, made a couple of excellent saves and generally did ok. Edwards - 6: Shoukd be out on loan gaining some experience away from the toxic shit-show that we’ve become. Nowhere near good enough right now, and has nobody around him to guide him. Also has Ince ahead of him, which is a handicap he doesn’t need. Batth - 7: Looks like a solid, no-nonsense center-half, nothing more and nothing less. Good to see somebody in the side that appears to know how to play their role. Bruno - 6.5: Did ok, just looks like all the life has been sucked out of him over the last 12 months. Clucas - 5: Not a left back, not a winger, not a midfielder. Not his worst game. That’s the kindest thing I can say about him. Adam - 7.5: Our only creative player. First name in the team-sheet for me, but sadly, also the first one blowing out of his arse after half an hour. Yet still our best player. Yes, that’s how far we’ve fallen. Allen - 5: Looks like a hyper-active 12 year old who won a contest to play a game of professional football, and somebody forgot to take him out of the team. He’s now been a staple in the side for a few years, and still nobody has noticed. Etebo - 7: Decent at what he does. Would love to see how he does with some capable team-mates. Just feel sorry for the bloke right now. Ince - 4: Just fuck off, and take your shit over-the-kneee socks with you. An absolute cunt, and an expensive one at that. Vokes - 7.5: Good goal, very promising start and then it was over. McLean - 5: Runs around a lot. Isn’t very good. A dislikeabke version of Joe Allen, Diouf - 4: Looked like a forward low on confidence who hasn’t played for months. That’s exactly what he is. We should have just kept Campbell here to be honest. Diouf has no future here. Afobe - 4: See Diouf, but without the excuse of not having played for months. Who the fuck decided we should spunk 12 million quid on this chancer? Williams - 5: No.
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Post by Veritas on Feb 23, 2019 19:00:08 GMT
Butland 8 two top drawer saves no chance with the goal
Edwards 5 some good work but needs to attack the space and go past his man, all his good work then undone by poor pass and being outpaced in the resultant break that led to their goal
Batth 6 Solid enough never really looked under too much pressure
BMI 5 Mostly ok but a couple of potentially costly slips and un-necessary fouls.
Clucas 6 Good link up for the goal no major errors
Adam 6.5 Only real creative force, strong first half but faded badly. Just think if we had some mobile and intelligent forwards for him to work with.
Ince 3 So frustrating, mostly receives the ball facing his own goal then retreated 15 yards to get it on his left foot. Offers very little and flatters to deceive.
Allen 6 Tireless effort not as creative as Adam but again hampered by the lack of mobile outlets ahead of him.
Etebo 5 Real Jekyll & Hyde performance again, two or three great contributions followed by 10 minutes where he can't control the ball or make a simple 5 yard pass.
McLean 5.5 Never anything less than wholehearted but even less quality than usual today
Vokes 9 in terms of impact while on the pitch with an excellent finish
Diouf 1 One of the poorest performances from a consistently poor performer
Williams 5 Not impact either way really.
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Post by ravey123 on Feb 23, 2019 19:03:42 GMT
Butland - 7: No chance with the goal, made a couple of excellent saves and generally did ok. Edwards - 6: Shoukd be out on loan gaining some experience away from the toxic shit-show that we’ve become. Nowhere near good enough right now, and has nobody around him to guide him. Also has Ince ahead of him, which is a handicap he doesn’t need. Batth - 7: Looks like a solid, no-nonsense center-half, nothing more and nothing less. Good to see somebody in the side that appears to know how to play their role. Bruno - 6.5: Did ok, just looks like all the life has been sucked out of him over the last 12 months. Clucas - 5: Not a left back, not a winger, not a midfielder. Not his worst game. That’s the kindest thing I can say about him. Adam - 7.5: Our only creative player. First name in the team-sheet for me, but sadly, also the first one blowing out of his arse after half an hour. Yet still our best player. Yes, that’s how far we’ve fallen. Allen - 5: Looks like a hyper-active 12 year old who won a contest to play a game of professional football, and somebody forgot to take him out of the team. He’s now been a staple in the side for a few years, and still nobody has noticed. Etebo - 7: Decent at what he does. Would love to see how he does with some capable team-mates. Just feel sorry for the bloke right now. Ince - 4: Just fuck off, and take your shit over-the-kneee socks with you. An absolute cunt, and an expensive one at that. Vokes - 7.5: Good goal, very promising start and then it was over. McLean - 5: Runs around a lot. Isn’t very good. A dislikeabke version of Joe Allen, Diouf - 4: Looked like a forward low on confidence who hasn’t played for months. That’s exactly what he is. We should have just kept Campbell here to be honest. Diouf has no future here. Afobe - 4: See Diouf, but without the excuse of not having played for months. Who the fuck decided we should spunk 12 million quid on this chancer? Williams - 5: No. Butland 7 - did OK. No chance with the goal and a couple of good saves Edwards 4 - I really want Tom to succeed but he is way too slow for a fullback. He is able to put in a belting cross but cannot beat a man to do it. Not sure if you can make someone quicker Batth 7 - thought he had a good game, pretty solid BMI 6 - looked good at CH but is a nightmare at Left Back Clucas 6 - thought he was looking better at Left Back then he gets moved into midfield by that bonkers substitution Ince 4 - he has perfected the knack of looking like he's trying whilst not actually trying, he has been awful for the last 5 or 6 games Adam 7 - would have got more if he'd played longer Allen 7 - one of our better performers on the day MOM for me McClean 6 - don't remember anything good or bad about his performance Vokes 6 - didn't realise how much we would miss him when he went off Etebo 7 - if only his final ball was bettter Diouf - 5 won a few throw ins but that was about all Williams - 5 bonkers substitution but that is not his fault Afobe 4 - along with Ince seems to have managed the knack of not really being bothered
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Post by jarvinski on Feb 23, 2019 19:05:43 GMT
Stateside.....the best post yet.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 23, 2019 19:14:23 GMT
Allen showed skill and energy. Adam showed skill. Butland and Batth were competent. Etebo had a few decent moments. The rest were mediocre to poor and as a unit they were less than the sum of even those modest parts. Horrible to watch - again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 19:29:04 GMT
6 all round except~
Ince 2 - poor, until its too late Diouf 0 - just plain shit.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 23, 2019 19:40:42 GMT
I notice Clucas is getting a bit of stick in some posts and I have been one of his biggest critics but I honestly thought he was about the best Stoke player today closely followed by Etebo. In fact he's been pretty decent over the last couple of games, I'm actually beginning to believe there is a half decent footballer in there.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 23, 2019 19:56:38 GMT
Butland 7 one of his better kicking games and came off his line for a cross Edwards 4 exposed for pace and never looked like threatening going forward Batth 6 solid Bruno 6, one slip but did okay at left back Clucas 8 my MoM, solid at left back, made the goal and looked more confident in midfield Adam 6, for 45 minutes, nothing for second half. Clearly needs games Etebo 7, a few errors but his ability to win back possession and drive forward is important Allen, 5 no impact in the game as he lacks pace and power Ince 4, didn’t impact the game but did try and work back in periods McClean 7, worked hard and was important in helping us hang on in the second half Vokes 6, too brief Diouf 4, clearly unfit but still more use in this role than Afobe
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Post by jeycov on Feb 23, 2019 19:58:49 GMT
Butland 6, didn't do much wrong, but didn't have too much to do either. Edwards 4, struggled for pace the whole game and had a terrible second half. I think his lack of pace played a big part in their goal. Batth 6, had an OK game, but nothing special. Indi 6, same as Batth really. Clucas 6, one assist and had a decent game. Ince 4, thought he was very anonymous this afternoon. Allen 5, worked hard, but that was about it. Adam 6, was OK, but tired early. Etebo 6.5, MOM our best midfielder today, but not very creative. Vokes 6, was sadly missed after he had to go off. McClean 5, a lot of effort, but really not much impact. Diouf 5, worked hard, but didn't look match fit. Williams 6, thought he did OK after coming on. Afobe 3, well I watched him coming on, but did we see him after that? You’ve given Allen and Diouf the same score? Were you at the game?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 23, 2019 20:00:48 GMT
I notice Clucas is getting a bit of stick in some posts and I have been one of his biggest critics but I honestly thought he was about the best Stoke player today closely followed by Etebo. In fact he's been pretty decent over the last couple of games, I'm actually beginning to believe there is a half decent footballer in there. Agreed but at LB, hasn’t been great in midfield
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 23, 2019 22:36:09 GMT
I notice Clucas is getting a bit of stick in some posts and I have been one of his biggest critics but I honestly thought he was about the best Stoke player today closely followed by Etebo. In fact he's been pretty decent over the last couple of games, I'm actually beginning to believe there is a half decent footballer in there. he's definitely improved significantly....though he was utter tosh for 4 or 5 games
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 7:06:10 GMT
Butland. 7. Nowt to do really.
Edwards. 6. Was solid until he got injured. Affected him thereafter. Baath 6. Solid enough apart from one or two moments. Some great headers. BMI. 5. Poor overall and gave away a few daft free kicks after diving in. Clucas 5. Solid display let down by the goal. Adomah was his man.
Adam. 6. Some great passes before tailing off. Allen 5. Did nothing all game. Etebo 7. My MOTM. Was superb off the ball. Would have been a 9 if he could pass.
Ince 2. Dreadful. McClean 4. Worked hard off the ball but never gave Clucas an option when in possession and visibly hid.
Diouf 1. Appalling performance. Offered the side no outlet at all.
Vokes 6. Good hold up play and good finish for the goal.
Williams 5. Couple of slashed clearances.
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Post by kelw on Feb 24, 2019 7:37:43 GMT
I notice Clucas is getting a bit of stick in some posts and I have been one of his biggest critics but I honestly thought he was about the best Stoke player today closely followed by Etebo. In fact he's been pretty decent over the last couple of games, I'm actually beginning to believe there is a half decent footballer in there. Agree with that I do despair about some on here though how they see a game. To give Diouf a 1 is simply singling him out and totally unfair. No way he deserved that high a rating
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Post by claytonscrubs on Feb 24, 2019 8:29:24 GMT
Butland 7 Edwards 5 Batth 6 BMI 6 Clucas 6 Adam 6 Etebo 7 MOTM Allen 6 Ince 3 .... His attitude stinks! Vokes 7 McClean 6 .... For his work rate, not his talent. Diouf 2 .... Some fans still think he’s the answer, really? 🙄 Williams 5 Afobe 3 .... Like Ince, couldn’t give a flying f*ck!
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 24, 2019 8:46:05 GMT
Butland 6, didn't do much wrong, but didn't have too much to do either. Edwards 4, struggled for pace the whole game and had a terrible second half. I think his lack of pace played a big part in their goal. Batth 6, had an OK game, but nothing special. Indi 6, same as Batth really. Clucas 6, one assist and had a decent game. Ince 4, thought he was very anonymous this afternoon. Allen 5, worked hard, but that was about it. Adam 6, was OK, but tired early. Etebo 6.5, MOM our best midfielder today, but not very creative. Vokes 6, was sadly missed after he had to go off. McClean 5, a lot of effort, but really not much impact. Diouf 5, worked hard, but didn't look match fit. Williams 6, thought he did OK after coming on. Afobe 3, well I watched him coming on, but did we see him after that? You’ve given Allen and Diouf the same score? Were you at the game? No, watched the stream, but I wasn't too impressed by Allen yesterday. Runs around a lot, good contribution defensively, but attacking wise very poor.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 24, 2019 9:21:35 GMT
You’ve given Allen and Diouf the same score? Were you at the game? No, watched the stream, but I wasn't too impressed by Allen yesterday. Runs around a lot, good contribution defensively, but attacking wise very poor. It’s all about opinions but I thought Allen made some important tackles and interceptions He was in great position to have a good chance of scoring but Diouf didn’t look up and blasted the ball into the side netting The Diouf of 2 years ago may have been the better option once Vokes went off However he is far from match fit and struggled to control the ball Like a number of our players he has very little confidence atm, but I thought that he was our weakest player by some margin yesterday I doubt that Mame will feature again this season
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Post by stokecity4life on Feb 24, 2019 9:35:04 GMT
Butland 8 really good saves or we would have got hammered
Edwards 5 not as good as recenetly Batth 7 think he did well Indi 6 was good first half in his proper position Clucas 7 for me his best game for us and i`ve been hating him recently
Ince 5 good shot in the second half but he`s annonymous Allen 5 works hard but doesn`t have a proper position in the team for me and is always accomodated Adam 7 overally really good and some world class passes but tired quickly which is a real shame Etebo 7 our best outfield player
Vokes 7 scored then injurred McClean 5 a lot of effort, but really not much impact.
Diouf 0, didn`t work hard, didn`t look fit, didnt look interested, didn`t look good Williams 6, did well when he came on Afobe 5 worked harder than Diouf during the few mins he was on
overall we were actually good in the first half, but god damn awful in the second half.
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