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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 10:48:00 GMT
And lets face it, selling Whelan, Walters and Bardsley ripped the heart and fight out of this team. Forget managers it was a decision SCFC should never ever have sanctioned.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 26, 2019 10:53:25 GMT
Give it 3 years and people will be telling us on here how much they used to love McClean/Berahino/Clucas etc. etc. (delete where applicable, as and when they get sold) and always thought he was World class, so the club were shocking for getting rid
P.S. Re-writing of history and re0emergence of myths seem to be de rigeur on the Oatie nowadays....the only surprise on this thread so far is that no-one has tried to somehow apportion the credit for Bardsley's entire career at every club he's ever been at to Pulis ("Bardsley joined when some of TP's players were still regulars so Bards must have indirectly inherited the Pulis DNA from them" type bullshit)! That's always a staple on one of these kinds of threads....just a waiting game!
You're right. This does happen and it happens because our recruitment policy has become so messed up nobody including those apparently responsible for major elements of the recruitment process know what the hell is going on. Some of the players signing are decent players yet they pull on the red and white and suddenly they look like they arrived from the dog and duck Sunday football team. When is the last time we signed a young un who we transferred on for a major profit? Where are the young lads coming out of the academy? And the bigger established names we sign drop their performance 50% when they play for us. Ageing or unmotivated players on high value long term contracts. It goes on and on. Its a shit show. Recruitment is a massive massive problem and those with collective hands on the wheel need to start justifying their positions very quickly or as far as I am concerned I am going to keep blaming carto and Scholes. The managers have had their share of consequences time for others to start accounting for their roles in this demise.
Out of interest Mickey.....
Do you have ANY opinions whatseover, at all, in ANY way about Stoke City that don't involve bringing Cartwright and Scholes into it?
No offence mate but your Russian style Facebook trolling is getting a tad fucking boring now...why not go the whole hog and have an avatar of a silhouetted male fgiure and start spamming threads claiming the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism (although that'll no doubt somehow be Carto's fault as well)?
P.S. the reason those things i mentioned in my previous post happen, is sod all to do with Carto and Scholes..it's solely down to fucking idiots on here who want some cheap stick to beat the club with, so contradict what they said themselves a few years back, completely re-write history, as that way they can now use this as some cheap shot. Our transfer team arent to blame for thick as fuck posters on here
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Post by Absolution on Feb 26, 2019 10:58:35 GMT
You're right. This does happen and it happens because our recruitment policy has become so messed up nobody including those apparently responsible for major elements of the recruitment process know what the hell is going on. Some of the players signing are decent players yet they pull on the red and white and suddenly they look like they arrived from the dog and duck Sunday football team. When is the last time we signed a young un who we transferred on for a major profit? Where are the young lads coming out of the academy? And the bigger established names we sign drop their performance 50% when they play for us. Ageing or unmotivated players on high value long term contracts. It goes on and on. Its a shit show. Recruitment is a massive massive problem and those with collective hands on the wheel need to start justifying their positions very quickly or as far as I am concerned I am going to keep blaming carto and Scholes. The managers have had their share of consequences time for others to start accounting for their roles in this demise.
Out of interest Mickey.....
Do you have ANY opinions whatseover, at all, in ANY way about Stoke City that don't involve bringing Cartwright and Scholes into it?
No offence mate but your Russian style Facebook trolling is getting a tad fucking boring now...why not go the whole hog and have an avatar of a silhouetted male fgiure and start spamming threads claiming the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism (although that'll no doubt somehow be Carto's fault as well)?
P.S. the reason those things i mentioned in my previous happen is sod all to do with Carto and Scholes..it's solely down to fucking idiots on here who want some cheap stick to beat the club with, so contradict what they said themselves a few years back as they can now use this as some cheap shot. Our transfer team arent to blame for thick as fuck posters on here
In fairness, Mickey's never said that Carto's to blame for anything, just that he should be sacked because we've not tried that yet. 😎
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 26, 2019 11:01:39 GMT
Out of interest Mickey.....
Do you have ANY opinions whatseover, at all, in ANY way about Stoke City that don't involve bringing Cartwright and Scholes into it?
No offence mate but your Russian style Facebook trolling is getting a tad fucking boring now...why not go the whole hog and have an avatar of a silhouetted male fgiure and start spamming threads claiming the earth is flat and vaccines cause autism (although that'll no doubt somehow be Carto's fault as well)?
P.S. the reason those things i mentioned in my previous happen is sod all to do with Carto and Scholes..it's solely down to fucking idiots on here who want some cheap stick to beat the club with, so contradict what they said themselves a few years back as they can now use this as some cheap shot. Our transfer team arent to blame for thick as fuck posters on here
In fairness, Mickey's never said that Carto's to blame for anything, just that he should be sacked because we've not tried that yet. 😎
I see what you're saying mate, but he actually says "I'm going to keep blaming carto and scholes..." in the very post of his i quoted
I can only presume he represents Hughes, Lambert and Rowett as it would appear that EVERYTHING is someone else's fault apart from theirs and they're not culpable for anything whatseover at all
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 26, 2019 11:02:01 GMT
And lets face it, selling Whelan, Walters and Bardsley ripped the heart and fight out of this team. Forget managers it was a decision SCFC should never ever have sanctioned. You can’t ‘forget managers’ though? Can you imagine the bowls of indignance on here if one of the suits started telling the manager who he could and couldn’t buy or sell? Getting £3m for Walters was a masterstroke.
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Post by Absolution on Feb 26, 2019 11:04:15 GMT
In fairness, Mickey's never said that Carto's to blame for anything, just that he should be sacked because we've not tried that yet. 😎
I see what you're saying mate, but he actually says "I'm going to keep blaming carto and scholes..." in the very post of his i quoted
I can only presume he represents Hughes, Lambert and Rowett as it would appear that EVERYTHING is someone else's fault apart from theirs and they're not culpable for anything whatseover at all
Yeah, I was just being a bit facetious mate, because if you press him, he'll acknowledge that he hasn't really got a clue what Carto does, or whether he's in any way culpable for our fall from grace.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 11:16:18 GMT
I see what you're saying mate, but he actually says "I'm going to keep blaming carto and scholes..." in the very post of his i quoted
I can only presume he represents Hughes, Lambert and Rowett as it would appear that EVERYTHING is someone else's fault apart from theirs and they're not culpable for anything whatseover at all
Yeah, I was just being a bit facetious mate, because if you press him, he'll acknowledge that he hasn't really got a clue what Carto does, or whether he's in any way culpable for our fall from grace. This is true and its born out of frustration of the club having no direction. Sick of managers being sacked when they have an impossible job to do. The club need to get hold of this situation or all I can speculate is that Carto and Scholes have a big part to play. I am not Russian style trolling, just airing my conclusions from my own common sense and with the minimal facts the club provide. Something has to change.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 11:20:05 GMT
I see what you're saying mate, but he actually says "I'm going to keep blaming carto and scholes..." in the very post of his i quoted
I can only presume he represents Hughes, Lambert and Rowett as it would appear that EVERYTHING is someone else's fault apart from theirs and they're not culpable for anything whatseover at all
Yeah, I was just being a bit facetious mate, because if you press him, he'll acknowledge that he hasn't really got a clue what Carto does, or whether he's in any way culpable for our fall from grace. I have accepted partial blame to managers Mick. And I aint here to piss off other fans who ultimately want what I want and that's success. I just want the club to sort this mess out and I think a good look at what Carto and Scholes provide is a very good place to start. We've done the managers, time to look elsewhere.
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Post by Absolution on Feb 26, 2019 11:25:17 GMT
Yeah, I was just being a bit facetious mate, because if you press him, he'll acknowledge that he hasn't really got a clue what Carto does, or whether he's in any way culpable for our fall from grace. This is true and its born out of frustration of the club having no direction. Sick of managers being sacked when they have an impossible job to do. The club need to get hold of this situation or all I can speculate is that Carto and Scholes have a big part to play. I am not Russian style trolling, just airing my conclusions from my own common sense and with the minimal facts the club provide. Something has to change. I've actually got some sympathy with your viewpoint Mickey. I just don't think it's worth going as large on it as you do when you're basically acknowleging you're taking a flyer on the whole thing. To me it seems obvious that the club isn't being run as it should be, but unless I've got evidence of why that is, and who should take the lion's share of the blame, then I'm not going to demand random sackings over and over and over again.
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