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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:22:25 GMT
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Post by spitshaw on Feb 21, 2019 19:29:00 GMT
Wish we could find out exactly what he knows / has heard
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:29:04 GMT
So has he told us half or the whole of it? Or is it a secret and he isn't telling, so there!
What a knob!
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Post by Gods on Feb 21, 2019 19:29:43 GMT
I don't think either GR or NJ can just wring their hands and absolve themselves of any blame.
Did I read there were just 2 starters from the Hughes era in our last match. You simply can't park it all at his door.
We got worse under GR and, quite incredibly, we've got even worse still under NJ.
It's their job to get a tune out of a strong squad and on that measure both have abjectly failed.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 21, 2019 19:30:50 GMT
I'm reasonably surprised by this, because I really did think most of the bad eggs were gone.
I just thought what we had now was a scary lack of ability.
Aside from Berahino (who hasn't lacked effort when he's played this season), I'm struggling to really identify 'wasters' as such.
Bauer is one that Lawrence has mentioned previously as a problem, which is at odds with the way he was perceived last season.
Butland? Never seen him as a particular problem.
McClean, whatever your views on him, seems a good pro.
As does Indi, who's been given the captaincy by successive managers in one-off games.
Shawcross' character is unimpeachable.
Edwards, no issues.
Fletcher? No problem. Model pro.
Williams? Wouldn't have thought so. Been a captain through his career.
Adam? Wouldn't have thought so.
Diouf? Not one you'd point to, although seems to be in a Bomb Squad now.
Bojan? Wouldn't have thought so.
Woods? Lawrence has previously vouched for him.
Vokes and Batth seem good eggs.
Clucas? Afobe? Ince? Well, they keep getting picked. And Rowett knew, and had worked with, Ince previously.
Etebo? Unlikely. Jones was talking very positively about him last week
But being as he has a direct line to Delap, Shawcross and Woods, it does probably explain why we are where we are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:31:28 GMT
Why not just name them then?
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Post by leicspotter on Feb 21, 2019 19:31:56 GMT
Not sure we would  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:33:37 GMT
Why not just name them then? .... it's a secret. |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Feb 21, 2019 19:33:59 GMT
The gift that keeps giving - what a laughing stock we are. When will there ever be any positive news?!?
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 21, 2019 19:34:58 GMT
Sack ths useless bunch of so called professionals , turning up late or not at all , fuck them off
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Feb 21, 2019 19:38:43 GMT
Let me guess, the players are human like the rest of us with varying degrees of loyalty, honesty, ethics, etc. etc.?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:41:59 GMT
Personally I think Liam Lawrence should just shut up. He’s done nothing but shit stir all season. Either tell us what it is now or shut up.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 21, 2019 19:43:21 GMT
Why not just name them then? Could be potentially libellous. Sentinel aren't going to take a risk on printing stories based on tittle tattle. |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 21, 2019 19:46:07 GMT
That's great Liam, really helping the club out with this one. Driving an even bigger wedge between the team and supporters.
Lawrence has always been a big headed so and so. Name names you bottler.
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 21, 2019 19:46:11 GMT
Nothing would surprise me at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:49:03 GMT
That headline is like something from one of the million adverts on that awful site, and to live up to it - it's an article about nothing, nothing whatsoever. If you're going to publish shit like this Liam Lawrence then name fucking names, put it out there, if not then shut the fuck up - you're not helping matters.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Feb 21, 2019 19:49:12 GMT
Personally I think Liam Lawrence should just shut up. He’s done nothing but shit stir all season. Either tell us what it is now or shut up. I don’t know, the whole farce of the last 3 years needs dragging into the light - somebody needs to lift the lid once and for all. So many things have gone inexplicably wrong but have been covered up for the most part, that we are all jumping on any hint of an explanation and going full X-Files on it to try and understand our dramatic fall from grace. It does nobody any favours - some fucker needs to rip the scab off once and for all so that we can all start with a clean slate, players, board, NJ, fans - if we understood the facts then maybe things can get sorted and just maybe we can start to like our own club again. |
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Post by apb1979 on Feb 21, 2019 19:51:41 GMT
I'm reasonably surprised by this, because I really did think most of the bad eggs were gone. I just thought what we had now was a scary lack of ability. Aside from Berahino (who hasn't lacked effort when he's played this season), I'm struggling to really identify 'wasters' as such. Bauer is one that Lawrence has mentioned previously as a problem, which is at odds with the way he was perceived last season. Butland? Never seen him as a particular problem. McClean, whatever your views on him, seems a good pro. As does Indi, who's been given the captaincy by successive managers in one-off games. Shawcross' character is unimpeachable. Edwards, no issues. Fletcher? No problem. Model pro. Williams? Wouldn't have thought so. Been a captain through his career. Adam? Wouldn't have thought so. Diouf? Not one you'd point to, although seems to be in a Bomb Squad now. Bojan? Wouldn't have thought so. Woods? Lawrence has previously vouched for him. Vokes and Batth seem good eggs. Clucas? Afobe? Ince? Well, they keep getting picked. And Rowett knew, and had worked with, Ince previously. Etebo? Unlikely. Jones was talking very positively about him last week But being as he has a direct line to Delap, Shawcross and Woods, it does probably explain why we are where we are. Pieters will be one of them |
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Post by misii30 on Feb 21, 2019 19:51:47 GMT
Personally I think Liam Lawrence should just shut up. He’s done nothing but shit stir all season. Either tell us what it is now or shut up. He just seems to like talking shit about the current team because it gives him a chance to humble brag about his own career. There's a set pattern in all of his articles this season. First he bashes the current team about something and then begins the "Back when I was playing everything was perfect. It was me and Glenn Whelan and co. and we were the perfect professionals oh how good we were. I remember when I scored that wonder goal after I dribbled past 8 players and blasted it in the top corner from 40 yards, it was glorious." His self-promotion is so obvious it makes me cringe every time. |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 21, 2019 19:51:56 GMT
Personally I think Liam Lawrence should just shut up. He’s done nothing but shit stir all season. Either tell us what it is now or shut up. I don’t know, the whole farce of the last 3 years needs dragging into the light - somebody needs to lift the lid once and for all. So many things have gone inexplicably wrong but have been covered up for the most part, that we are all jumping on any hint of an explanation and going full X-Files on it to try and understand our dramatic fall from grace. It does nobody any favours - some fucker needs to rip the scab off once and for all so that we can all start with a clean slate, players, board, NJ, fans - if we understood the facts then maybe things can get sorted and just maybe we can start to like our own club again. He's not dragging anything into the light. All he is doing is giving it the big one and playing to the crowd. "...even signed an England flag for the first time" Do me a favour. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:53:26 GMT
Why not just name them then? Could be potentially libellous. Sentinel aren't going to take a risk on printing stories based on tittle tattle. So to sell a few more papers, whilst avoiding a libel suit, they say "We know something that you don't and we aren't going to tell you" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:54:19 GMT
Personally I think Liam Lawrence should just shut up. He’s done nothing but shit stir all season. Either tell us what it is now or shut up. I don’t know, the whole farce of the last 3 years needs dragging into the light - somebody needs to lift the lid once and for all. So many things have gone inexplicably wrong but have been covered up for the most part, that we are all jumping on any hint of an explanation and going full X-Files on it to try and understand our dramatic fall from grace. It does nobody any favours - some fucker needs to rip the scab off once and for all so that we can all start with a clean slate, players, board, NJ, fans - if we understood the facts then maybe things can get sorted and just maybe we can start to like our own club again. I just think it doesn’t help with the little bits he says. It just leads to speculation. If we knew who the trouble makers were then perhaps we could finally move on. As a poster says above it just doesn’t make sense to me who the troublemakers are (other than Berahino of course). I just can’t see the ones that have been bombed out like Shawcross Diouf Bojan and Fletcher being unprofessional. And the rest seem to be the ones who get to play. It’s confusing as a fan. It prevents us getting behind the whole team. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:55:11 GMT
Fans would be shocked at what I've heard about Liam Lawrence and his dog...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:56:21 GMT
Nothing more than click bait
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:58:08 GMT
The most shocking thing, to fans, would be if the Sentnull actually published a newsworthy article, rather than the usual shit.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Feb 21, 2019 19:58:37 GMT
I don’t know, the whole farce of the last 3 years needs dragging into the light - somebody needs to lift the lid once and for all. So many things have gone inexplicably wrong but have been covered up for the most part, that we are all jumping on any hint of an explanation and going full X-Files on it to try and understand our dramatic fall from grace. It does nobody any favours - some fucker needs to rip the scab off once and for all so that we can all start with a clean slate, players, board, NJ, fans - if we understood the facts then maybe things can get sorted and just maybe we can start to like our own club again. I just think it doesn’t help with the little bits he says. It just leads to speculation. If we knew who the trouble makers were then perhaps we could finally move on. As a poster says above it just doesn’t make sense to me who the troublemakers are (other than Berahino of course). I just can’t see the ones that have been bombed out like Shawcross Diouf Bojan and Fletcher being unprofessional. And the rest seem to be the ones who get to play. It’s confusing as a fan. It prevents us getting behind the whole team. Sorry I quite agree - I meant that the actual story needs to come out - no more hinting. The whole sordid affair needs dragging into the light. |
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Post by LankyPotter on Feb 21, 2019 20:00:00 GMT
The article is quite hard to draw any conclusions from because we don’t know how far back or what he is referring to. The berahino saga has revived this subject but what I can say is, for me, it shows how badly we are crying out for some stability. Jones is the man who has the task of managing us long term (I think he will succeed based on track record and also his core values). He needs time to route out the players he doesn’t like the look of for his own footballing reasons and Squad balance. Very rarely does a frail dressing room get anywhere in football, as we have and are proving this year. Stability was our trademark, we did it better than most and that was the platform to our success at the start and for the majority of the premier league years, so whether you think it was the right appointment or not we have to give jones time to build his squad and personally id be surprised if we are anywhere near as poor as we have been this season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 20:02:17 GMT
I respect Liam for everything he achieved here, and for everything he did. He was an influential member of the promotion squad and also the one that stayed up. I respect him more for a player that punched well above his weight. Not a natural talent but one that worked and worked and worked like so many in that squad.
I'm sick to death of reading his tripe this season though. The constant shit stirring, the constant harking back to yesteryear. It's just black and white, typed nonsense.
Stop it. You're not lifting the lid on anything and if anything, you are just adding to the ill feeling and frustration. Put up or shut up.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 21, 2019 20:05:31 GMT
I'm reasonably surprised by this, because I really did think most of the bad eggs were gone. I just thought what we had now was a scary lack of ability. Aside from Berahino (who hasn't lacked effort when he's played this season), I'm struggling to really identify 'wasters' as such. Bauer is one that Lawrence has mentioned previously as a problem, which is at odds with the way he was perceived last season. Butland? Never seen him as a particular problem. McClean, whatever your views on him, seems a good pro. As does Indi, who's been given the captaincy by successive managers in one-off games. Shawcross' character is unimpeachable. Edwards, no issues. Fletcher? No problem. Model pro. Williams? Wouldn't have thought so. Been a captain through his career. Adam? Wouldn't have thought so. Diouf? Not one you'd point to, although seems to be in a Bomb Squad now. Bojan? Wouldn't have thought so. Woods? Lawrence has previously vouched for him. Vokes and Batth seem good eggs. Clucas? Afobe? Ince? Well, they keep getting picked. And Rowett knew, and had worked with, Ince previously. Etebo? Unlikely. Jones was talking very positively about him last week But being as he has a direct line to Delap, Shawcross and Woods, it does probably explain why we are where we are. Pieters will be one of them His exile suggests that, but wouldn't that have been apparent earlier in his 6-year stay? |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 21, 2019 20:06:12 GMT
Nothing new in that article. I think most know we have a bunch of mercenaries that dont give a flying fcuk. Shame we haven’t been able to find a manager in over 18 months to sort them out. Seriously why has it been allowed?
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