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Post by potterenfrance on Feb 20, 2019 21:43:51 GMT
As much as I wouldn't want her back in this country, I believe she will be coming back. You can't take away her citizenship legally unless she has another. And it appears she actually doesn't have another nationality. You don't automatically become a duel nation because one of your parents is from another country. You have to apply for it which according to what's been said, her parents never did. So she is British and will be whatever our daft government says. No other country will recognise her as having no nationality so she will be sent back here. Fast forward twelve months and she will be in Court winning her case. More than likely winning a massive amount of money. Then being set up for life and housed here, and then selling her story to one of our great newspapers ;-) Would her parents tell untruths ? of course not it would be against their religion Government will know if she has ballad corrosion or not lol
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Post by potterenfrance on Feb 20, 2019 21:44:06 GMT
Bangladeshi citizenship lol
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 20, 2019 22:03:56 GMT
I couldn’t give a fuck about any sort of legislation.
Legislation shouldn’t apply to sub-human rodents like this ugly buck-toothed piece of daesh shit.
I hope we soon hear news of her demise at the hands of one of those fanatical cavemen that call themselves “soliders”, they don’t like women opening their mouths.
Rot you cunt, and your fucking scumbag family who were no doubt complicit in this whole charade as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 22:24:19 GMT
Put a bullet in the slut
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Feb 21, 2019 6:28:39 GMT
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Post by riverman on Feb 21, 2019 11:11:44 GMT
If she's not considered Bangladeshi just because her mother is, why are some making our her baby is British? It's actually Syrian as that's where it was born.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 21, 2019 11:12:46 GMT
This picture is doing the rounds saying it is her, not sure how they can prove it. View AttachmentI'll be honest, that looks fake. It doesn't even look like a female. That person has the build of a small lightweight male. However, more importantly.... Wow, what a turn of events. I could never have seen it coming and clearly neither did she, seeing as she's "a little bit surprised". I suspect the Guardian have already had two days of mourning, which is a lot more than they gave to David Haines, who in the aftermath of his brutal killing seemed more concern about the welfare of Syria if Britain responded with force. Funny that. They're now in full on overdrive with this absolute tripe. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/20/east-londoners-discuss-case-of-former-resident-shamima-begumWith respect to Amy Walker, I suspect the residents of Bethnal Green don't speak for the majority of the country (that appear to be quite keen for Shammy not to return)..... in fact, the residents of Bethnal Green don't even represent the demographics of this country, seeing as it's a predominantly a Bangladeshi community. Poor Shammy. Like the unwanted child of an extramarital affair.... and now the step dad (Holland) wants nothing to do with her either.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 21, 2019 12:30:22 GMT
She already has a state that adopted her and she willingly joined the Islamic State, no reason for her to not stay in the state she voluntarily joined simple, hopefully the Syrian military catch up with her and the other ISIS breeding units out there and eradicate the lot of them.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 21, 2019 12:36:01 GMT
This picture is doing the rounds saying it is her, not sure how they can prove it. I'll be honest, that looks fake. It doesn't even look like a female. That person has the build of a small lightweight male. However, more importantly.... Wow, what a turn of events. I could never have seen it coming and clearly neither did she, seeing as she's "a little bit surprised". I suspect the Guardian have already had two days of mourning, which is a lot more than they gave to David Haines, who in the aftermath of his brutal killing seemed more concern about the welfare of Syria if Britain responded with force. Funny that. They're now in full on overdrive with this absolute tripe. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/20/east-londoners-discuss-case-of-former-resident-shamima-begumWith respect to Amy Walker, I suspect the residents of Bethnal Green don't speak for the majority of the country (that appear to be quite keen for Shammy not to return)..... in fact, the residents of Bethnal Green don't even represent the demographics of this country, seeing as it's a predominantly a Bangladeshi community. Poor Shammy. Like the unwanted child of an extramarital affair.... and now the step dad (Holland) wants nothing to do with her either. He's in a ever growing que who want to distance themselves from Shammy Begging.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 13:18:32 GMT
Don't really get why we're refusing the chance to question someone from ISIS who is handing herself in.
Never mind the human side of it, in terms of military intelligence it is a stupid idea to turn her away surely?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 21, 2019 13:38:09 GMT
People change She’s learned her lesson let her come home to a civilised country and bring up her children without fear of oppression. I’m more than happy for her to come back Wow
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Post by salopstick on Feb 21, 2019 13:45:34 GMT
People change She’s learned her lesson let her come home to a civilised country and bring up her children without fear of oppression. I’m more than happy for her to come back Wow Another whoosh
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 21, 2019 14:19:45 GMT
Don't really get why we're refusing the chance to question someone from ISIS who is handing herself in. Never mind the human side of it, in terms of military intelligence it is a stupid idea to turn her away surely? Have you seen any of her interviews? Intelligence is a strange word to use... I don't think she'll be offering much insight into their tactics or anything of particular use.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 21, 2019 15:24:02 GMT
Don't really get why we're refusing the chance to question someone from ISIS who is handing herself in. Never mind the human side of it, in terms of military intelligence it is a stupid idea to turn her away surely? Because there's a 0% chance of her giving up any kind of secrets. Like I said, I'm a moderate left wing labour voter, not some frothing at the mouth BNP-nutter, so I'll put that out there again before I get accused of being right wing. She has shown no remorse, tried to suggest the Manchester bombings were justified, said people should feel sorry for her, insisted she still supports ISIS, and has even claimed she would have stayed with them had she not been forced to flee. She has nowhere else to turn and now wants to come home.... she's what they call an odious little shit and while the media can refer to her as a 'school girl', yeah, right.... not anymore.... she's fucking 19.... she's not a school girl. She WAS a school girl. She's an adult now and she's entitled to think what she thinks, but if it's fundamentally incompatible with British values then perhaps she should not be welcomed back with open arms.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 21, 2019 15:29:55 GMT
Don't really get why we're refusing the chance to question someone from ISIS who is handing herself in. Never mind the human side of it, in terms of military intelligence it is a stupid idea to turn her away surely? Because there's a 0% chance of her giving up any kind of secrets. Like I said, I'm a moderate left wing labour voter, not some frothing at the mouth BNP-nutter, so I'll put that out there again before I get accused of being right wing. She has shown no remorse, tried to suggest the Manchester bombings were justified, said people should feel sorry for her, insisted she still supports ISIS, and has even claimed she would have stayed with them had she not been forced to flee. She has nowhere else to turn and now wants to come home.... she's what they call an odious little shit and while the media can refer to her as a 'school girl', yeah, right.... not anymore.... she's fucking 19.... she's not a school girl. She WAS a school girl. She's an adult now and she's entitled to think what she thinks, but if it's fundamentally incompatible with British values then perhaps she should not be welcomed back with open arms. Yet Jezza wants her back. I'm trying really hard to get this bloke, but I can't.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 21, 2019 15:42:31 GMT
Because there's a 0% chance of her giving up any kind of secrets. Like I said, I'm a moderate left wing labour voter, not some frothing at the mouth BNP-nutter, so I'll put that out there again before I get accused of being right wing. She has shown no remorse, tried to suggest the Manchester bombings were justified, said people should feel sorry for her, insisted she still supports ISIS, and has even claimed she would have stayed with them had she not been forced to flee. She has nowhere else to turn and now wants to come home.... she's what they call an odious little shit and while the media can refer to her as a 'school girl', yeah, right.... not anymore.... she's fucking 19.... she's not a school girl. She WAS a school girl. She's an adult now and she's entitled to think what she thinks, but if it's fundamentally incompatible with British values then perhaps she should not be welcomed back with open arms. Yet Jezza wants her back. I'm trying really hard to get this bloke, but I can't. It's unpalatable but he's probably being realistic. You simply can't have loads of Nationless hoodlums roaming the earth like a malevolent A-Team Unfortunately, barbaric idiot that she is, she is our problem.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 15:50:18 GMT
Don't really get why we're refusing the chance to question someone from ISIS who is handing herself in. Never mind the human side of it, in terms of military intelligence it is a stupid idea to turn her away surely? Because there's a 0% chance of her giving up any kind of secrets. Like I said, I'm a moderate left wing labour voter, not some frothing at the mouth BNP-nutter, so I'll put that out there again before I get accused of being right wing. She has shown no remorse, tried to suggest the Manchester bombings were justified, said people should feel sorry for her, insisted she still supports ISIS, and has even claimed she would have stayed with them had she not been forced to flee. She has nowhere else to turn and now wants to come home.... she's what they call an odious little shit and while the media can refer to her as a 'school girl', yeah, right.... not anymore.... she's fucking 19.... she's not a school girl. She WAS a school girl. She's an adult now and she's entitled to think what she thinks, but if it's fundamentally incompatible with British values then perhaps she should not be welcomed back with open arms. I don't think anyone is saying welcome her back with open arms, but she's clearly in need of help. Brainwashed people will cling on for dear life to things they have been told to believe. She was 15 when she was groomed, she was raped and had 2 kids killed, witnessing torture, squalid living, murder and I would imagine being treated like shit. That would mess up absolutely anyone. The real issue I have with this though is that it is so clearly a PR stunt by Javid. It has been done solely to placate the baying mob. It is unnerving to know that if at some point the public decide they don't like you, our Home Secretary may take it upon themselves to strip you of your citizenship, against the protocol drawn up specifically by them and the Home Office.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 21, 2019 15:50:25 GMT
Yet Jezza wants her back. I'm trying really hard to get this bloke, but I can't. It's unpalatable but he's probably being realistic. You simply can't have loads of Nationless hoodlums roaming the earth like a malevolent A-Team Unfortunately, barbaric idiot that she is, she is our problem. It looks soft, though, Sheiky. You know I am trying to be fair to Jezza, but he seems completely out of touch on this, as do too many in the Labour Party. I could understand it if he was outraged and stated we must see justice done or something, but his tone is wishy washy. I fucking shudder when I think what we have done to this country, and too many seem to be sympathetic to these fucking loons.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 21, 2019 15:53:02 GMT
Because there's a 0% chance of her giving up any kind of secrets. Like I said, I'm a moderate left wing labour voter, not some frothing at the mouth BNP-nutter, so I'll put that out there again before I get accused of being right wing. She has shown no remorse, tried to suggest the Manchester bombings were justified, said people should feel sorry for her, insisted she still supports ISIS, and has even claimed she would have stayed with them had she not been forced to flee. She has nowhere else to turn and now wants to come home.... she's what they call an odious little shit and while the media can refer to her as a 'school girl', yeah, right.... not anymore.... she's fucking 19.... she's not a school girl. She WAS a school girl. She's an adult now and she's entitled to think what she thinks, but if it's fundamentally incompatible with British values then perhaps she should not be welcomed back with open arms. I don't think anyone is saying welcome her back with open arms, but she's clearly in need of help. Brainwashed people will cling on for dear life to things they have been told to believe. She was 15 when she was groomed, she was raped and had 2 kids killed, witnessing torture, squalid living, murder and I would imagine being treated like shit. That would mess up absolutely anyone. The real issue I have with this though is that it is so clearly a PR stunt by Javid. It has been done solely to placate the baying mob. It is unnerving to know that if at some point the public decide they don't like you, our Home Secretary may take it upon themselves to strip you of your citizenship, against the protocol drawn up specifically by them and the Home Office. I think I'll save my sympathy for the girls that grooming gangs have raped in our country, thanks. It's happening closer to home than you might think, too.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 21, 2019 15:54:06 GMT
It's unpalatable but he's probably being realistic. You simply can't have loads of Nationless hoodlums roaming the earth like a malevolent A-Team Unfortunately, barbaric idiot that she is, she is our problem. It looks soft, though, Sheiky. You know I am trying to be fair to Jezza, but he seems completely out of touch on this, as do too many in the Labour Party. I could understand it if he was outraged and stated we must see justice done or something, but his tone is wishy washy. I fucking shudder when I think what we have done to this country, and too many seem to be sympathetic to these fucking loons. I understand what you're saying mate, he is just so matter of fact about it all and it doesn't do him many favours with the wider public but what he is saying is closer to reality and logic than than the shameless grandstanding (and subsequent backtracking) of the Home Secratary.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 21, 2019 15:59:59 GMT
Because there's a 0% chance of her giving up any kind of secrets. Like I said, I'm a moderate left wing labour voter, not some frothing at the mouth BNP-nutter, so I'll put that out there again before I get accused of being right wing. She has shown no remorse, tried to suggest the Manchester bombings were justified, said people should feel sorry for her, insisted she still supports ISIS, and has even claimed she would have stayed with them had she not been forced to flee. She has nowhere else to turn and now wants to come home.... she's what they call an odious little shit and while the media can refer to her as a 'school girl', yeah, right.... not anymore.... she's fucking 19.... she's not a school girl. She WAS a school girl. She's an adult now and she's entitled to think what she thinks, but if it's fundamentally incompatible with British values then perhaps she should not be welcomed back with open arms. I don't think anyone is saying welcome her back with open arms, but she's clearly in need of help. Brainwashed people will cling on for dear life to things they have been told to believe. She was 15 when she was groomed, she was raped and had 2 kids killed, witnessing torture, squalid living, murder and I would imagine being treated like shit. That would mess up absolutely anyone. The real issue I have with this though is that it is so clearly a PR stunt by Javid. It has been done solely to placate the baying mob. It is unnerving to know that if at some point the public decide they don't like you, our Home Secretary may take it upon themselves to strip you of your citizenship, against the protocol drawn up specifically by them and the Home Office. "It has been done solely to placate the baying mob. It is unnerving to know that if at some point the public decide they don't like you, our Home Secretary may take it upon themselves to strip you of your citizenship, against the protocol drawn up specifically by them and the Home Office." People might trot out well if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about but life isn't like that. What you have so eloquently put above isn't just unnerving mate, it's chilling.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 21, 2019 16:00:17 GMT
The left: "We should lower the voting age down to 16."
Also the left: "Shammima Begum was too young to know what she was doing."
Make your minds up.
Plus this nonsense about her being exploited and not knowing what she was getting into- you don't need to be Kate Adey to realise what attrocities were going on out there, she had the internet and access to the news presumably? We're hardly talking about someone coaxing her into egging windows are we?
She comes across as having no remorse and all me, me, me...classic signs of a sociopath.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 21, 2019 16:01:48 GMT
Yet Jezza wants her back. I'm trying really hard to get this bloke, but I can't. It's unpalatable but he's probably being realistic. You simply can't have loads of Nationless hoodlums roaming the earth like a malevolent A-Team Unfortunately, barbaric idiot that she is, she is our problem. I love it when a plan comes together
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Post by salopstick on Feb 21, 2019 16:02:34 GMT
The left: "We should lower the voting age down to 16." Also the left: "Shammima Begum was too young to know what she was doing." Make your minds up. Plus this nonsense about her being exploited and not knowing what she was getting into- you don't need to be Kate Adey to realise what attrocities were going on out there, she had the internet and access to the news presumably? We're hardly talking about someone talking her into egging windows are we? She comes across as having noremorse and all me, me, me...classic signs of a sociopath. This needs to be said next time labour raise the voting age issue
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:06:54 GMT
I don't think anyone is saying welcome her back with open arms, but she's clearly in need of help. Brainwashed people will cling on for dear life to things they have been told to believe. She was 15 when she was groomed, she was raped and had 2 kids killed, witnessing torture, squalid living, murder and I would imagine being treated like shit. That would mess up absolutely anyone. The real issue I have with this though is that it is so clearly a PR stunt by Javid. It has been done solely to placate the baying mob. It is unnerving to know that if at some point the public decide they don't like you, our Home Secretary may take it upon themselves to strip you of your citizenship, against the protocol drawn up specifically by them and the Home Office. I think I'll save my sympathy for the girls that grooming gangs have raped in our country, thanks. It's happening closer to home than you might think, too. Sympathy isn't a finite thing you know, you don't have to ration it between people so you don't run out I don't particularly have sympathy for her, she's clearly an idiot, but she has been groomed and brainwashed, and she has been essentially told to fuck off and die by the Home Sec so he can get some good PR. Honestly though, the real sympathy I have is with her child.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:10:32 GMT
The left: "We should lower the voting age down to 16." Also the left: "Shammima Begum was too young to know what she was doing." Make your minds up. Plus this nonsense about her being exploited and not knowing what she was getting into- you don't need to be Kate Adey to realise what attrocities were going on out there, she had the internet and access to the news presumably? We're hardly talking about someone coaxing her into egging windows are we? She comes across as having no remorse and all me, me, me...classic signs of a sociopath. She was 15 No, but you can easily be dragged into things if you are brainwashed enough. People want and need an ideology to hold on to, it's human nature, just happened for her that someone brainwashed her into believing in ISIS and extremism. She needs mental help, and her kid doesn't deserve to be turned away from a real life.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 21, 2019 16:10:43 GMT
I think I'll save my sympathy for the girls that grooming gangs have raped in our country, thanks. It's happening closer to home than you might think, too. Sympathy isn't a finite thing you know, you don't have to ration it between people so you don't run out I don't particularly have sympathy for her, she's clearly an idiot, but she has been groomed and brainwashed, and she has been essentially told to fuck off and die by the Home Sec so he can get some good PR. Honestly though, the real sympathy I have is with her child. Yes, you fucking do! I don't think she's an idiot, I think she's a volunteer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:16:02 GMT
Sympathy isn't a finite thing you know, you don't have to ration it between people so you don't run out I don't particularly have sympathy for her, she's clearly an idiot, but she has been groomed and brainwashed, and she has been essentially told to fuck off and die by the Home Sec so he can get some good PR. Honestly though, the real sympathy I have is with her child. Yes, you fucking do! I don't think she's an idiot, I think she's a volunteer. I think that's ignoring the effect online grooming can have on people. If a 15 year old was invited by a middle aged man to have sex and groomed into joining a sex ring, would you say she's a volunteer? Obviously not, because she's been brainwashed and groomed into doing it. The only difference being that ISIS actively endanger the rest of us. I'm not saying that she deserves the sympathy of a sexual abuse victim, but the principles of how she's been convinced to go over there are the same. People stoke her hatred for the west and tell her how things will be different and better over there. Then she goes and sees the most horrific sights a person could ever see. I can understand her being a bit fucked in the head.
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Post by daveandeddy on Feb 21, 2019 16:16:52 GMT
She is too far gone Even choosing to name her new born JARRAH able fighter OR one who wounds
yes she has renounced ISIS -- Like fuck
Bring them all back and shoot the lot of them
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Post by metalhead on Feb 21, 2019 16:18:24 GMT
Because there's a 0% chance of her giving up any kind of secrets. Like I said, I'm a moderate left wing labour voter, not some frothing at the mouth BNP-nutter, so I'll put that out there again before I get accused of being right wing. She has shown no remorse, tried to suggest the Manchester bombings were justified, said people should feel sorry for her, insisted she still supports ISIS, and has even claimed she would have stayed with them had she not been forced to flee. She has nowhere else to turn and now wants to come home.... she's what they call an odious little shit and while the media can refer to her as a 'school girl', yeah, right.... not anymore.... she's fucking 19.... she's not a school girl. She WAS a school girl. She's an adult now and she's entitled to think what she thinks, but if it's fundamentally incompatible with British values then perhaps she should not be welcomed back with open arms. I don't think anyone is saying welcome her back with open arms, but she's clearly in need of help. Brainwashed people will cling on for dear life to things they have been told to believe. She was 15 when she was groomed, she was raped and had 2 kids killed, witnessing torture, squalid living, murder and I would imagine being treated like shit. That would mess up absolutely anyone. The real issue I have with this though is that it is so clearly a PR stunt by Javid. It has been done solely to placate the baying mob. It is unnerving to know that if at some point the public decide they don't like you, our Home Secretary may take it upon themselves to strip you of your citizenship, against the protocol drawn up specifically by them and the Home Office. And I argued earlier in this thread for bringing her home. She's our garbage and perhaps we need to clean our shit up. My issue was more how she was acting.... and the subsequent surprise at the way this has played out.
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