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Post by thevoid on Jul 19, 2020 19:19:36 GMT
I'm hearing a lot about Shemima Begum being a clueless teen when she joined IS at 15, yet we're told to listen to Greta Thunberg, who was 15 when she started speaking about the environment. So at what point do 15 year olds become the voice of reason, or is this based on agenda....is Thunberg benefitting from 'white privilege'? π€ What an odd comparison to make. Comparing someone who was groomed to destroy part of civilisation to one who wanted to preserve it with an added bonus of white privilege thrown in too. Out of morbid curiosity which one annoys you more the 15 year old Muslim teenager groomed and joining a terrorist organisation or the 15 year old white aspergers teenager who talks about preventing climate change? Strawman alert, I won't even dignify your daft question with an answer. As waga said, some 15 year olds are considered mature enough to speak at conferences in front of world leaders (her autism doesn't come into it), yet when another girl of a similar age runs off to join a terrorist group, she's too young to know what she's doing? You can't have it both ways.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 19, 2020 19:25:34 GMT
What an odd comparison to make. Comparing someone who was groomed to destroy part of civilisation to one who wanted to preserve it with an added bonus of white privilege thrown in too. Out of morbid curiosity which one annoys you more the 15 year old Muslim teenager groomed and joining a terrorist organisation or the 15 year old white aspergers teenager who talks about preventing climate change? Strawman alert, I won't even dignify your daft question with an answer. As waga said, some 15 year olds are considered mature enough to speak at conferences in front of world leaders (her autism doesn't come into it), yet when another girl of a similar age runs off to join a terrorist group, she's too young to know what she's doing? You can't have it both ways. They can don't you realise that's how it's supposed to work
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 19:29:58 GMT
Take her to the British consulate in Syria. Let her put her case forward over video link. Doesnβt need to be physically in UK. Problem solved and saved money There is no British consulate in Syria, all diplomats were withdrawn when we realised that our intervention had caused it to be a completely lawless state and the trafficking capital of the world. Another British success story......
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 19, 2020 19:48:51 GMT
What an odd comparison to make. Comparing someone who was groomed to destroy part of civilisation to one who wanted to preserve it with an added bonus of white privilege thrown in too. Out of morbid curiosity which one annoys you more the 15 year old Muslim teenager groomed and joining a terrorist organisation or the 15 year old white aspergers teenager who talks about preventing climate change? Strawman alert, I won't even dignify your daft question with an answer. As waga said, some 15 year olds are considered mature enough to speak at conferences in front of world leaders (her autism doesn't come into it), yet when another girl of a similar age runs off to join a terrorist group, she's too young to know what she's doing? You can't have it both ways. Thought not, you can always tell how crispy the crackling is going to be by how agitated they get at being asked to add further detail to their ridiculous posts. We can try a different angle though and see if you want to add extra salt; would you like to point out at which part of the legal challenge (which as ive pointed out before on this very thread leaves even me with a really nasty taste in my mouth) has centred around her being 15? I'll help you out if you like: www.freemovement.org.uk/court-of-appeal-shamima-begum/Or, have you decided to not bother reading the reasons as to why the appeal has been granted and just jumped straight into what you want to be angry at and then to justify it thrown in some Greta Thunberg?
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Post by teflondel on Jul 20, 2020 9:25:57 GMT
Take her to the British consulate in Syria. Let her put her case forward over video link. Doesnβt need to be physically in UK. Problem solved and saved money There is no British consulate in Syria, all diplomats were withdrawn when we realised that our intervention had caused it to be a completely lawless state and the trafficking capital of the world. Another British success story...... Pretty certain there is one in both Jordan and Turkey who we are on friendly diplomatic terms with. Take her there. When case is finished just give her bfh and be done with.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 21, 2020 13:07:47 GMT
The wetwipes will be clambering over themselves to get her here somehow. She can get fucked....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 13:34:38 GMT
The wetwipes will be clambering over themselves to get her here somehow. She can get fucked.... I don't think abiding by the rule of international law makes you a "wetwipe" personally, if she's currently de facto stateless then we cannot ignore the situation whether we'd like to or not.....
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 21, 2020 16:16:22 GMT
The wetwipes will be clambering over themselves to get her here somehow. She can get fucked.... I don't think abiding by the rule of international law makes you a "wetwipe" personally, if she's currently de facto stateless then we cannot ignore the situation whether we'd like to or not..... I taking about getting her home rather than the situation.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 22, 2020 9:05:30 GMT
I don't think abiding by the rule of international law makes you a "wetwipe" personally, if she's currently de facto stateless then we cannot ignore the situation whether we'd like to or not..... I taking about getting her home rather than the situation. British when it suits.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 22, 2020 9:09:41 GMT
I taking about getting her home rather than the situation. British when it suits. Bizarre to hate Britain but when the shit hits the fan come running back with hands out...
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Post by thevoid on Jul 22, 2020 10:04:35 GMT
Bizarre to hate Britain but when the shit hits the fan come running back with hands out... A fair legal system (again, when it suits). People are making out she was groomed, as though she just nipped down the local park for an ice cream with 'Dirty Barry', not made a concious decision to fly to another country. ISIS were all over the news (she had a computer, therefore access to news) so, grooming or no grooming, at 15 she should've known she wasn't going to CentreParcs. How did these people make contact anyway- was she already researching? They'll play the grooming angle and she'll walk free, I'd put money on it.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 22, 2020 10:22:34 GMT
Bizarre to hate Britain but when the shit hits the fan come running back with hands out... A fair legal system (again, when it suits). People are making out she was groomed, as though she just nipped down the local park for an ice cream with 'Dirty Barry', not made a concious decision to fly to another country. ISIS were all over the news (she had a computer, therefore access to news) so, grooming or no grooming, at 15 she should've known she wasn't going to CentreParcs. How did these people make contact anyway- was she already researching? They'll play the grooming angle and she'll walk free, I'd put money on it. I'm sure Dirty Barry was the name of Drunken's imaginary paedo friend when he was going off on one about transgender people at great length, he gets everywhere doesn't he! Hold on, are you the same poster? Shit, wrong thread...
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Post by thevoid on Jul 22, 2020 13:54:49 GMT
A fair legal system (again, when it suits). People are making out she was groomed, as though she just nipped down the local park for an ice cream with 'Dirty Barry', not made a concious decision to fly to another country. ISIS were all over the news (she had a computer, therefore access to news) so, grooming or no grooming, at 15 she should've known she wasn't going to CentreParcs. How did these people make contact anyway- was she already researching? They'll play the grooming angle and she'll walk free, I'd put money on it. I'm sure Dirty Barry was the name of Drunken's imaginary paedo friend when he was going off on one about transgender people at great length, he gets everywhere doesn't he! Hold on, are you the same poster? Shit, wrong thread... You ok Bluers? You seem a bit obsessed with the other thread- it's not even about you π
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 22, 2020 16:56:14 GMT
I'm sure Dirty Barry was the name of Drunken's imaginary paedo friend when he was going off on one about transgender people at great length, he gets everywhere doesn't he! Hold on, are you the same poster? Shit, wrong thread... You ok Bluers? You seem a bit obsessed with the other thread- it's not even about you π Always good thanks I've no idea what ************** has done to you all! But the response is a fairly unedifying spectacle as highlighted by the flies feeding on shit post! Seems like a good few people are missing the I Hate Muslims thread and need an outlet for some finger-pointing and mob righteousness
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Post by thevoid on Jul 22, 2020 17:20:30 GMT
You ok Bluers? You seem a bit obsessed with the other thread- it's not even about you π Always good thanks I've no idea what ************** has done to you all! But the response is a fairly unedifying spectacle as highlighted by the flies feeding on shit post! Seems like a good few people are missing the I Hate Muslims thread and need an outlet for some finger-pointing and mob righteousness Well it's a thread about a long term contributor to this forum (who may or may not still be present) being in the news, so not sure why it's got your hackles up (as it's not even about you, remember)? If it's not to your liking, ignore it rather than getting irate about it. For instance, I've never read Q magazine and have no vested interest in it closing, so I've not bothered looking at the thread about it. Simple really π I'm wondering if you'd be as fixated over the discussion if the poster in question wasn't so extreme left wing? Still, it makes a change from the Battle of ACAB I suppose!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 23, 2020 7:51:20 GMT
Not a big fan of mob justice generally, regardless of who it's against. I see Crapslinger has managed to get himself banned (again) as a result! Like you say, you could just take your own advice and ignore him or rise above it rather than bearing the kind of long-term grudge which requires scouring well known publications like the Pattaya Times or whatever it was, then starting a thread about it
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 23, 2020 8:38:00 GMT
Well there's a simple solution
The minute she proves she has the right to be a British citizen You charge her with treason and request the death penalty / minimum 30 years
I wonder if she would be so keen to return then
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Post by thevoid on Jul 23, 2020 10:57:45 GMT
Not a big fan of mob justice generally, regardless of who it's against. I see Crapslinger has managed to get himself banned (again) as a result! Like you say, you could just take your own advice and ignore him or rise above it rather than bearing the kind of long-term grudge which requires scouring well known publications like the Pattaya Times or whatever it was, then starting a thread about it The same article appeared in The Sentinel/SOT online and I stumbled upon it during my daily read of it. For some reason, the link wouldn't work so a couple of key words chucked into Google brought the Thailand site up, which was practically word for word the article in The Sent. No scouring of the Thai press was made. Sorry Bluers- I'll leave the obsessive historical sifting to you π Still a bit odd that you're so triggered by a thread that is nothing to do with you- especially as the subject of it already has people (that aren't him, or you) backing him up. I'm sure if Admin had taken umbrage at it, they'd have pulled the plug. Nowt as queer as folk π€
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Post by vokeswagen on Jul 23, 2020 11:53:52 GMT
Well there's a simple solution The minute she proves she has the right to be a British citizen You charge her with treason and request the death penalty / minimum 30 years I wonder if she would be so keen to return then We don't do the death penalty anymore wags, things have kind of moved on in the last 60 years
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 12:02:31 GMT
Not a big fan of mob justice generally, regardless of who it's against. I see Crapslinger has managed to get himself banned (again) as a result! Like you say, you could just take your own advice and ignore him or rise above it rather than bearing the kind of long-term grudge which requires scouring well known publications like the Pattaya Times or whatever it was, then starting a thread about itΒ . Bluers you are so triggered, bro. I can taste your salty tears. Have you been eating too much soy and it's affected your logic?
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 23, 2020 12:43:11 GMT
Well there's a simple solution The minute she proves she has the right to be a British citizen You charge her with treason and request the death penalty / minimum 30 years I wonder if she would be so keen to return then We don't do the death penalty anymore wags, things have kind of moved on in the last 60 years Sorry I forgot that war criminal Blair removed it In 1998 probably covering his own arse
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Post by vokeswagen on Jul 23, 2020 12:45:40 GMT
We don't do the death penalty anymore wags, things have kind of moved on in the last 60 years Sorry I forgot that war criminal Blair removed it In 1998 probably covering his own arse It's been out of commission for a lot longer than that pal
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 23, 2020 12:50:36 GMT
Sorry I forgot that war criminal Blair removed it In 1998 probably covering his own arse It's been out of commission for a lot longer than that pal For treason it was only officially removed in the 1998 bill
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 23, 2020 13:04:14 GMT
Not a big fan of mob justice generally, regardless of who it's against. I see Crapslinger has managed to get himself banned (again) as a result! Like you say, you could just take your own advice and ignore him or rise above it rather than bearing the kind of long-term grudge which requires scouring well known publications like the Pattaya Times or whatever it was, then starting a thread about it The same article appeared in The Sentinel/SOT online and I stumbled upon it during my daily read of it. For some reason, the link wouldn't work so a couple of key words chucked into Google brought the Thailand site up, which was practically word for word the article in The Sent. No scouring of the Thai press was made. Sorry Bluers- I'll leave the obsessive historical sifting to you π Still a bit odd that you're so triggered by a thread that is nothing to do with you- especially as the subject of it already has people (that aren't him, or you) backing him up. I'm sure if Admin had taken umbrage at it, they'd have pulled the plug. Nowt as queer as folk π€ "I stumbled across it but the link from the Sentinel didn't work". That's so weak! You do seem to regularly get off on imagining other people getting worked up about stuff, and "absolutely love triggering you to fuck [to deanosisterspants]". It's very odd behaviour for a grown man - troll like perhaps you're assuming others' reactions based on your own? I wouldn't set too much store by what Admin do on here, there were pages and pages of comments on the I Hate Muslims thread, on which you were a regular contributor, before they eventually binned it. Although, to be fair and give them credit where it's due, they have just issued yet another ban to crapslinger for his latest bout of unnecessary unpleasantness. I'm sure it won't be the last, I doubt whether he can stop himself! Anyway, this is, once again, threatening to turn into another very tedious slanging match, so I'll leave it here, allow you to fulfil your need to have the final word once more and wish you a very pleasant day's trolling and triggering...
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Post by vokeswagen on Jul 23, 2020 13:37:05 GMT
It's been out of commission for a lot longer than that pal For treason it was only officially removed in the 1998 bill Unused for about 35 years prior, and abolished in all but name in 1969.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 23, 2020 15:12:09 GMT
For treason it was only officially removed in the 1998 bill Unused for about 35 years prior, and abolished in all but name in 1969. Ah but was still law untill 1998 for treason it has been unused since 1946 lord haw haw (William Joyce)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 15:23:39 GMT
The same article appeared in The Sentinel/SOT online and I stumbled upon it during my daily read of it. For some reason, the link wouldn't work so a couple of key words chucked into Google brought the Thailand site up, which was practically word for word the article in The Sent. No scouring of the Thai press was made. Sorry Bluers- I'll leave the obsessive historical sifting to you π Still a bit odd that you're so triggered by a thread that is nothing to do with you- especially as the subject of it already has people (that aren't him, or you) backing him up. I'm sure if Admin had taken umbrage at it, they'd have pulled the plug. Nowt as queer as folk π€ Β "I stumbled across it but the link from the Sentinel didn't work". That's so weak! You do seem to regularly get off on imagining other people getting worked up about stuff, and "absolutely love triggering you to fuck [to deanosisterspants]". It's very odd behaviour for a grown man - troll like perhaps you're assuming others' reactions based on your own? I wouldn't set too much store by what Admin do on here, there were pages and pages of comments on the I Hate Muslims thread, on which you were a regular contributor, before they eventually binned it. Although, to be fair and give them credit where it's due, they have just issued yet another ban to crapslinger for his latest bout of unnecessary unpleasantness. I'm sure it won't be the last, I doubt whether he can stop himself! Anyway, this is, once again, threatening to turn into another very tedious slanging match, so I'll leave it here, allow you to fulfil your need to have the final word once more and wish you a very pleasant day's trolling and triggering... This is what a triggered lib looks like guys. You can tell he's triggered to fuck because he's acting in a reasonable fashion to conceal his rage. Libs: owned!
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Post by thevoid on Jul 23, 2020 16:09:49 GMT
The same article appeared in The Sentinel/SOT online and I stumbled upon it during my daily read of it. For some reason, the link wouldn't work so a couple of key words chucked into Google brought the Thailand site up, which was practically word for word the article in The Sent. No scouring of the Thai press was made. Sorry Bluers- I'll leave the obsessive historical sifting to you π Still a bit odd that you're so triggered by a thread that is nothing to do with you- especially as the subject of it already has people (that aren't him, or you) backing him up. I'm sure if Admin had taken umbrage at it, they'd have pulled the plug. Nowt as queer as folk π€ "I stumbled across it but the link from the Sentinel didn't work". That's so weak! You do seem to regularly get off on imagining other people getting worked up about stuff, and "absolutely love triggering you to fuck [to deanosisterspants]". It's very odd behaviour for a grown man - troll like perhaps you're assuming others' reactions based on your own? I wouldn't set too much store by what Admin do on here, there were pages and pages of comments on the I Hate Muslims thread, on which you were a regular contributor, before they eventually binned it. Although, to be fair and give them credit where it's due, they have just issued yet another ban to crapslinger for his latest bout of unnecessary unpleasantness. I'm sure it won't be the last, I doubt whether he can stop himself! Anyway, this is, once again, threatening to turn into another very tedious slanging match, so I'll leave it here, allow you to fulfil your need to have the final word once more and wish you a very pleasant day's trolling and triggering... A few quick points of order if you'll indulge me Bluers, and then I'll let you get back to giggling at things and making copious notes about posts ukyestony/starkiller/A N Other (delete as appropriate) wrote on The Oatcake five years ago. Right back at you regarding the 'last word' thing by the way- I don't need a reply, these are just some items for your consideration π "I stumbled across it but the link from the Sentinel didn't work". That's so weak!" Whether you think it's weak or not is immaterial, it's the truth. The AdBlock browser I use (a must for reading The Sentinel) was playing up- these things happen unfortunately. However, if you don't believe me and really feel the need to check (I know you're usually a stickler for research), if you load up The Sentinel desktop site, a search bar appears at the top of the page. If you enter someone's name- in this case, Simon Cliff- in said bar, all the articles relating to that person will show up. The one in question is second one down if memory serves. "You do seem to regularly get off on imagining other people getting worked up about stuff, and "absolutely love triggering you to fuck [to deanosisterspants]". It's very odd behaviour for a grown man - troll like" I'd hardly call people obsessing (and you do seem to be dedicating an inordinate amount of time flapping about this) over a thread that doesn't concern them (allegedly) 'imagining other people getting worked up'. The proof's there in black and white- a lion's share of it written by yourself π It's tantamount to me posting numerous times on the fruit tree thread, bringing the fruit tree thread into the conversation on other unrelated threads, and then trying to convince people that I'm not actually interested in bloody fruit trees π It's all very odd! Speaking of odd behavior, rhetorical question coming up: how come you've never raised concerns over trolling with the person who is well known to have spammed the board with various accounts, all of whom are abusive to other posters? Classic trolling tactics but no such concern there- in fact, given your faux outrage over the thread, you seem to be defending them. And when they've come up in conversation before, you claimed not to be aware of who was being discussed. If you'll forgive me, you seem to be very selective in your observational skills, given that you could practically repeat verbatim something written by another random poster weeks ago! π€ A cynic might think that you've chosen to ignore this person's activities because you agree with them politically, but are less backwards in coming forwards with me as obviously we disagree on various matters- ad hominem tactics, so to speak. Another rather transparent example of this was the whole palaver over ACAB. You zoomed in on my comment about a graffiti tag, but gave scant regard to a left-leaning poster- RipRoaringPotter- and his rather fanciful claims that the hard left agitators who were lobbing projectiles at the police were right wingers in disguise! This- combined with some quite ridiculous and laughable comments you've made in the past- speak volumes for you, your character and your agenda π Anyway, that seems to be it. To reiterate, no need to reply back, they're just some items for you to take onboard. I'm off for a brew! π
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 16:18:36 GMT
"I stumbled across it but the link from the Sentinel didn't work". That's so weak! You do seem to regularly get off on imagining other people getting worked up about stuff, and "absolutely love triggering you to fuck [to deanosisterspants]". It's very odd behaviour for a grown man - troll like perhaps you're assuming others' reactions based on your own? I wouldn't set too much store by what Admin do on here, there were pages and pages of comments on the I Hate Muslims thread, on which you were a regular contributor, before they eventually binned it. Although, to be fair and give them credit where it's due, they have just issued yet another ban to crapslinger for his latest bout of unnecessary unpleasantness. I'm sure it won't be the last, I doubt whether he can stop himself! Anyway, this is, once again, threatening to turn into another very tedious slanging match, so I'll leave it here, allow you to fulfil your need to have the final word once more and wish you a very pleasant day's trolling and triggering... A few quick points of order if you'll indulge me Bluers, and then I'll let you get back to giggling at things and making copious notes about posts ukyestony/starkiller/A N Other (delete as appropriate) wrote on The Oatcake five years ago. Right back at you regarding the 'last word' thing by the way- I don't need a reply, these are just some items for your consideration π "I stumbled across it but the link from the Sentinel didn't work". That's so weak!" Whether you think it's weak is immaterial, it's the truth. The AdBlock browser I use (a must for reading The Sentinel) was playing up- these things happen unfortunately. However, if you don't believe me and really feel the need to check (I know you're usually a stickler for research), if you load up The Sentinel desktop site, a search bar appears at the top of the page. If you enter someone's name- in this case, Simon Cliff- in said bar, all the articles relating to that person will show up. The one in question is second one down if memory serves. "You do seem to regularly get off on imagining other people getting worked up about stuff, and "absolutely love triggering you to fuck [to deanosisterspants]". It's very odd behaviour for a grown man - troll like" I'd hardly call people obsessing (and you do seem to be dedicating an inordinate amount of time flapping about this) over a thread that doesn't concern them (allegedly) 'imagining other people getting worked up'. The proof's there in black and white- a lion's share of it written by yourself π It's tantamount to me posting numerous times on the fruit tree thread, bringing the fruit tree thread into the conversation on other unrelated threads, and then trying to convince people that I'm not actually interested in bloody fruit trees π It's all very odd! Speaking of odd behavior, rhetorical question coming up: how come you've never raised concerns over trolling with the person who is well known to have spammed the board with various accounts, all of whom are abusive to other posters? Classic trolling tactics but no such concern there- in fact, given your faux outrage over the thread, you seem to be defending them. And when they've come up in conversation before, you claimed not to be aware of who was being discussed. If you'll forgive me, you seem to be very selective in your observational skills, given that you could practically repeat verbatim something written by another random poster weeks ago! π€ A cynic might think that you've chosen to ignore this person's activities because you agree with them politically, but are less backwards in coming forwards with me as obviously we disagree on various matters- ad hominem tactics, so to speak. Another rather transparent example of this was the whole palaver over ACAB. You zoomed in on my comment about a graffiti tag, but gave scant regard to a left-leaning poster- RipRoaringPotter- and his rather fanciful claims that the hard left agitators who were lobbing projectiles at the police were right wingers in disguise! This- combined with some quite ridiculous and laughable comments you've made in the past- speak volumes for you, your character and your agenda π Anyway, that seems to be it. To reiterate, no need to reply back, they're just some items for you to take onboard. I'm off for a brew! π Quite a long post for something you don't care about isn't it. Don't recall all the supposed ************** accounts being abusive. In fact, eebygum got loads without ever really returning fire.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 23, 2020 16:25:59 GMT
We don't do the death penalty anymore wags, things have kind of moved on in the last 60 years Sorry I forgot that war criminal Blair removed it In 1998 probably covering his own arse Maybe we could bring it back just for her I'm sure priti wouldn't mind letting her know the consequences if she ever darkens these shores again. Come back to appeal and the crown will prosecute for the death penalty seems fair.
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