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Post by stokieinaus on Feb 22, 2019 2:08:41 GMT
It's hard to tell the difference between recruitment and grooming at times, though. I just can't have her as a victim, but I knew people would take this slant. If a white skinhead had been involved in something vile, there would be no equivocation; he'd be a nasty, racist cunt. There's always an excuse for some. It's a very interesting point in fairness. Both are mostly built from experience, both would be coming from a person being brainwashed into their beliefs. I don't think she's a victim as such, just that people are underestimating how easy it is to be swept away in an ideology. Especially if your mind is as whisked up as I imagine hers is seeing what she's seen. The prevent strategy makes interesting reading in relation to this too. And if the UK let her back is that not also being swept away in an ideology?
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Post by felonious on Feb 22, 2019 6:32:28 GMT
Like most threads on here, this has once again entered the arena of the ultra right wing. 'Quelle Surprise', as they in Libya. There's just about every view imaginable being expressed Shakey open your ultra left wing momentum eyes
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Post by Northy on Feb 22, 2019 6:43:23 GMT
Like most threads on here, this has once again entered the arena of the ultra right wing. 'Quelle Surprise', as they in Libya. Or sane people who just want to be safe in their own country?
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Post by Northy on Feb 22, 2019 6:44:33 GMT
You love backing a nailed on bad un /loser don't you Tbh I'm not defending her. I'm just not wishing death on someone who has been brainwashed. We all start with a blank slate in our mind, the main difference is what our environment and the stuff around us fills it up with. Some never fill it at all Obviously she may be beyond help, and she should certainly be on trial for her actions, which is why this weird, sad PR stunt by the home secretary is ridiculous. Looks like you've been brainwashed by the left wing staff room ๐
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Post by felonious on Feb 22, 2019 6:51:34 GMT
Tbh I'm not defending her. I'm just not wishing death on someone who has been brainwashed. We all start with a blank slate in our mind, the main difference is what our environment and the stuff around us fills it up with. Some never fill it at all Obviously she may be beyond help, and she should certainly be on trial for her actions, which is why this weird, sad PR stunt by the home secretary is ridiculous. Looks like you've been brainwashed by the left wing staff room ๐ I reckon it must be his mother's influence or all those years of the old man hitting him across the head with his copy of The Sun
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 22, 2019 10:05:42 GMT
Quite funny how she is asking some mercy to be shown in re assessing her case. You couldnโt make it up.....a willing contributor and supporter of ISIS asking for mercy. Yet there are still some out there who think we should play all nicely around this. It doesnโt surprise me though, there are some very sheltered lives led out there which have been warm and cozy and detached from reality.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Feb 22, 2019 10:14:35 GMT
She's saying she wants forgiveness now..
Maybe she should talk to some of the families who've had loved ones decapitated and blown up by this barbaric bunch of evil bastards.
See what they think.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 22, 2019 10:19:21 GMT
Tbh I'm not defending her. I'm just not wishing death on someone who has been brainwashed. We all start with a blank slate in our mind, the main difference is what our environment and the stuff around us fills it up with. Some never fill it at all Obviously she may be beyond help, and she should certainly be on trial for her actions, which is why this weird, sad PR stunt by the home secretary is ridiculous. Looks like you've been brainwashed by the left wing staff room ๐ Come on bud, we're all Stokey's on here (well, most of us) and there ain't any point in getting personal over an opinion. I've actually batted for both teams here. I've said I don't want her back. I don't. I don't believe she deserves to come back. However you must acknowledge regardless of personal feelings, that she is a UK citizen and she's now a UK international criminal. She's our shit. It's not about whether she was radicalised and blah blah..... you can use that excuse for anyone then. A British murderer in a foreign country is still British person. To repeat..... she is our shit to clean-up .... or is she? We're trying to say she isn't and there are potential wide reaching consequences.... like the next time Abu Hamza's mate rocks up on our soil and we want Jordan to take him back. This whole thing is a mess though. The biggest problem here is public perception. If the public believed she would spend the rest of her life in jail, I think they'd be open to the idea.... we've seen too many criminals (especially those who tick certain boxes) seemingly let off or given an easy ride. People are genuinely of the belief that she'd be re-homed with police protection.... and who's to blame them. I mean, there's a chance she wouldn't even be tried for terrorism seeing as there are lawyers desperate to take on this case so they can challenge it!!! It's all a fuck up. Personally, do I want her back? Do I fuck. She's an odious shit.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 22, 2019 10:25:52 GMT
Looks like you've been brainwashed by the left wing staff room ๐ Come on bud, we're all Stokey's on here (well, most of us) and there ain't any point in getting personal over an opinion. I've actually batted for both teams here. Funny you should mention it, cause Felonious was saying something similar with his Insecure thread earlier...
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 22, 2019 10:29:38 GMT
She's saying she wants forgiveness now.. Maybe she should talk to some of the families who've had loved ones decapitated and blown up by this barbaric bunch of evil bastards. See what they think. She and her legion of lawyers will argue where is the proof. Itโs obvious she is pretty thick (not to the point where she could say she didnโt know what she is doing) and she has no PR manager yet orchestrating her response because they canโt access the camp. Her very early interviews are the most telling where she was saying โwhereโs the proof I will be a riskโ .....exactly the same response you get from some chav or gangster type giving it large when they know theyโve done something wrong. She is obviously now realising she has to pretend to soften her profile and once her lovely lawyers gain access you will then see the miraculous overnight transformation into Mother Theresa. There are plenty willing to believe and be gullible enough to accept it. Her and her supporters wonโt be having me over.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 11:09:30 GMT
The only reason she wants to come back is because IS la la land got nasty. If things had been "as good as they were in the first few years" (her words) she would still presumably be quite happy to stay there.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 22, 2019 11:37:02 GMT
Come on bud, we're all Stokey's on here (well, most of us) and there ain't any point in getting personal over an opinion. I've actually batted for both teams here. Funny you should mention it, cause Felonious was saying something similar with his Insecure thread earlier... Fuck sake
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 22, 2019 11:49:43 GMT
The only reason she wants to come back is because IS la la land got nasty. If things had been "as good as they were in the first few years" (her words) she would still presumably be quite happy to stay there. Itโs great when youโre dishing it out, not so good when youโre on the receiving end...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 12:22:58 GMT
Tbh I'm not defending her. I'm just not wishing death on someone who has been brainwashed. We all start with a blank slate in our mind, the main difference is what our environment and the stuff around us fills it up with. Some never fill it at all Obviously she may be beyond help, and she should certainly be on trial for her actions, which is why this weird, sad PR stunt by the home secretary is ridiculous. Looks like you've been brainwashed by the left wing staff room ๐ You'd be surprised how right-wing some of them are. Shame really
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 22, 2019 12:27:43 GMT
If she suddenly died by some unforseen circumstance,lots of people die every day in accidents, all this Bollox about her wanting back here in the UK to live,would end there and then.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 22, 2019 16:15:31 GMT
The only reason she wants to come back is because IS la la land got nasty. If things had been "as good as they were in the first few years" (her words) she would still presumably be quite happy to stay there. Itโs great when youโre dishing it out, not so good when youโre on the receiving end... But she is innocent! knew nothing of the butchery been carried out by the terrorist organisation she willingly joined, she was really enjoying her new life with the cave dwelling heathen butcher's until some bastard spoiled it by fighting back, she has made her own bed and she should lie in it well until the kurds get hold of her sorry lying arse.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 22, 2019 16:28:43 GMT
If she suddenly died by some unforseen circumstance,lots of people die every day in accidents, all this Bollox about her wanting back here in the UK to live,would end there and then. Going off with a bang shagging a suicide bomber would be very apt.
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Post by felonious on Feb 22, 2019 19:55:12 GMT
Looks like you've been brainwashed by the left wing staff room ๐ Come on bud, we're all Stokey's on here (well, most of us) and there ain't any point in getting personal over an opinion.
I've actually batted for both teams here. I've said I don't want her back. I don't. I don't believe she deserves to come back. However you must acknowledge regardless of personal feelings, that she is a UK citizen and she's now a UK international criminal. She's our shit. It's not about whether she was radicalised and blah blah..... you can use that excuse for anyone then. A British murderer in a foreign country is still British person. To repeat..... she is our shit to clean-up .... or is she? We're trying to say she isn't and there are potential wide reaching consequences.... like the next time Abu Hamza's mate rocks up on our soil and we want Jordan to take him back. This whole thing is a mess though. The biggest problem here is public perception. If the public believed she would spend the rest of her life in jail, I think they'd be open to the idea.... we've seen too many criminals (especially those who tick certain boxes) seemingly let off or given an easy ride. People are genuinely of the belief that she'd be re-homed with police protection.... and who's to blame them. I mean, there's a chance she wouldn't even be tried for terrorism seeing as there are lawyers desperate to take on this case so they can challenge it!!! It's all a fuck up. Personally, do I want her back? Do I fuck. She's an odious shit. Bit of a whoosh here Metal. We've known this lil bastard since he was lil and polite
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 22, 2019 20:47:50 GMT
This poor innocent little schoolgirl has named her third child Jarra ! a 13th Century Jihadi Paedophile warlord who slaughtered and butchered Jews ! he will no doubt be joining the Labour Party when he is old enough to he'll be right at home with them her father is an alleged Jihadi who burned American flags and chanted along with the rest of the Jihadi's present outside he embassy death to the West, associated with Lee Rigbys murderer look no further in the quest to find who radicalised her, and some think it would be a good idea for this man to bring up this child.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 21:44:04 GMT
There's another one now - Jack Letts, 23, dubbed "Jihadi Jack" by the media. He's being held in a Kurdish prison, but wants to come back because he misses his mum, pasties, and Dr Who ! Are these people for real or what ? He's got Canadian and British dual nationality - well sod him off to Canada before they revoke his citizenship. His parents are awaiting trial in the UK for sending money to him, and are accused of funding terrorism.
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Post by henry on Feb 22, 2019 22:40:45 GMT
There's another one now - Jack Letts, 23, dubbed "Jihadi Jack" by the media. He's being held in a Kurdish prison, but wants to come back because he misses his mum, pasties, and Dr Who ! Are these people for real or what ? He's got Canadian and British dual nationality - well sod him off to Canada before they revoke his citizenship. His parents are awaiting trial in the UK for sending money to him, and are accused of funding terrorism. One back, all back - you kinda get a sense where all this is ending.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 22, 2019 22:47:28 GMT
I would bring her back on one condition, She must play Russian Roulett, Hand her a pistol with 3 rounds,she gets to pull the trigger 3 times,if she is still alive after that, she can stay for one week,then she must do it again the following week to stay another week,so on and so forth.
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Post by boru on Feb 22, 2019 23:27:33 GMT
They will have her back and use her for propoganded, simple as
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 22, 2019 23:32:37 GMT
The fact we are even discussing whether a known terrorist should be allowed back into the country or not is fucking laughable. The press and all the snowflakes will jump on Liam Neeson for practically fuck all but now it's oh let her back she made a mistake. Fuck ya Sen and stay in the country you fucked of too which you call paradise and anyone who thinks she should be let back should go and join her.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Feb 23, 2019 16:40:31 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 23, 2019 20:47:02 GMT
What will he send to his Father on Fathers day.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Feb 24, 2019 17:20:29 GMT
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Post by felonious on Feb 24, 2019 17:30:09 GMT
She won't be running the 100 metres for England anytime soon. False modesty or enforced modesty?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 7:09:28 GMT
I can't do the link right now but there's an article in the Mail where Begum is now saying she is truly sorry and wants to come back "to inspire British girls not to make the same mistakes" that she has.
She says she now fully understands why she has been refused entry to the U.K. but says it felt like she was being made a scapegoat by the British Government. The journalist says she was very apologetic and conciliatory. It's almost as if she has undergone media and PR training to try to earn her ticket back to the U.K.
Unbelievably the journalist appears to really feel sorry for her - she has a young baby, but has no heating or hot water, no possessions, lives in a tent, is openly resented by other hardline IS brides because of her "fame", talk of burning her tent down because she has uncovered her face during her interviews, blah, blah, blah.
Well tough, bloody stay and rot there you filthy piece of scum.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 25, 2019 7:15:31 GMT
Looks like you've been brainwashed by the left wing staff room ๐ You'd be surprised how right-wing some of them are. Shame really Iโm surprised at how right wing some of the millennials are. Itโs like theyโve gone straight to middle age. I blame helicopter parenting ๐
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