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Post by Eggybread on Feb 4, 2019 13:15:26 GMT
I was watching some tv program the other night and it came out with fact that I never knew and to be fair was gobsmacked. Josiah Wedgewoods grandson was none other than Charles Darwin.This blew me away so I had to google it.It seems as though both families seem to just jump in and out of each others bed, but yep its true and Darwins experiments and trips were all finance by Wedgewoods wealth.
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Post by yeokel on Feb 4, 2019 13:55:56 GMT
I was watching some tv program the other night and it came out with fact that I never knew and to be fair was gobsmacked. Josiah Wedgewoods grandson was none other than Charles Darwin.This blew me away so I had to google it.It seems as though both families seem to just jump in and out of each others bed, but yep its true and Darwins experiments and trips were all finance by Wedgewoods wealth. Charles Darwin married Josiah Wedgwood's grand-daughter, at Maer church so was his 'grandson-in-law' rather than his grandson.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 4, 2019 13:57:56 GMT
I thought Darwin married into the Wedgwood family? Apparently he used to study the forna and Flora on maer hills, where his earliest thoughts on evolution began.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 4, 2019 14:08:58 GMT
I was watching some tv program the other night and it came out with fact that I never knew and to be fair was gobsmacked. Josiah Wedgewoods grandson was none other than Charles Darwin.This blew me away so I had to google it.It seems as though both families seem to just jump in and out of each others bed, but yep its true and Darwins experiments and trips were all finance by Wedgewoods wealth. Charles Darwin married Josiah Wedgwood's grand-daughter, at Maer church so was his 'grandson-in-law' rather than his grandson. Nope Josiah married Sarah Wedgwood.Their eldest daughter Susannah married Robert Darwin.They in turn had a son, Charles.So Josiah is Charles Darwins grandad. All incestuous as can be.Lovely.
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Post by yeokel on Feb 4, 2019 14:33:48 GMT
Charles Darwin married Josiah Wedgwood's grand-daughter, at Maer church so was his 'grandson-in-law' rather than his grandson. Nope Josiah married Sarah Wedgwood.Their eldest daughter Susannah married Robert Darwin.They in turn had a son, Charles.So Josiah is Charles Darwins grandad. All incestuous as can be.Lovely. I think we are both right! - but it's complicated, with lots of marraiges between cousins etc. You were right in saying "It seems as though both families seem to just jump in and out of each others bed...." And, of course, just to complicate matters even further, there was the habit in those days to use only a small selection of 'given' names, so every generation has a fair old smattering of Josiah Wedgwoods, Charles Darwins and loads of other combination of a small collection of names. It's ever likely they used to get a bit confused about who was who. The Darwin-Wedgwood family - Wiki
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 4, 2019 15:27:39 GMT
Kissing cousins, all a bunch of fraudulent masonic murdering bastards, freaks of nature, acting contrary to Darwin's own maxim, 'survival of the fittest'. Used as justification/motivation for every subsequent war.
Josiah's son, Thomas is an interesting chap, only lived to thirty four but is noted as a pioneer, possibly the originator of the art of photography. A massive sodomite and child experimenter, big on the weed, and patron to poets. He funded Samuel Taylor Coleridge's career.
Wig wearing wankers.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 4, 2019 15:48:41 GMT
Spookily I've been reading a fair bit about this lately, since a drink in The Leopard on Thursday which is where Wedgwood met Brindley (and a couple of others) in 1765. Charles Darwin was Wedgwood's Grandson on his mother's side (his mother was JW's daughter) he married his cousin Emma Wedgwood. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 4, 2019 16:39:05 GMT
I was watching some tv program the other night and it came out with fact that I never knew and to be fair was gobsmacked. Josiah Wedgewoods grandson was none other than Charles Darwin.This blew me away so I had to google it.It seems as though both families seem to just jump in and out of each others bed, but yep its true and Darwins experiments and trips were all finance by Wedgewoods wealth.
His trips weren't.....The Beagle (the ship he was on where he did the vast majority of his research for "On the origin of species by means of Natural selection"), was a naval vessel used for surveying purposes.
Darwin was studying to be a clergyman at the time and blagged his way on board as a replacement naturalist, after the person they wanted fell through and the Captain of The Beagle very nearly rejected Darwin as the stand in as he was only a "hobbyist" naturalist and due to some bizarre beliefs the captain had about Darwin's facial features.
His father Robert thought it was a waste of time but Josiah Wedgwood simply convinced Robert Darwin (Wedgwood's bro-in-law) to agree to it and for Robert Darwin (who was a rich doctor in his own right) to fund it on behalf of Charles. Yes, Wedgwood influenced Robert Darwin to let Charles go (and serious kudos for that Josiah, worked out pretty well), but he certainly didn't finance it.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Feb 4, 2019 21:29:24 GMT
If you want details of the extended Wedgwood/Darwin family, go to the World of Wedgwood and inside the Museum there is a wheel showing all of his descendants. I did not know that the composer Ralph Vaughan Williams also appears and, in modern times C.V.Wedgwood is a respected historian. One of his sons was also a founding member of the Royal Horticultural Society. Quite man, our Josiah!
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Post by auntiegeorge on Feb 5, 2019 0:25:49 GMT
Another fact: the late, great MP Tony Benn (aka Anthony Wedgwood Benn) was linked on his mother's side to the Wedgwood dynasty.
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Post by mattyd on Feb 5, 2019 7:40:48 GMT
Didn't Darwin study evolution in Fegg Hayes, but when he noticed that there wasn't any he gave up.
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Post by andrewguk on Feb 8, 2019 4:59:12 GMT
Hot water freezes faster than cold water. Scientists don't know why this is.
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Post by Boothen on Feb 8, 2019 5:20:35 GMT
Another strange coincidence of history.
Way back in 1858 London suffered what was called the 'Great Stink'. This was caused by no end of raw sewage from London just being dumped into the River Thames. It got so bad that Parliament was forced to hang heavy curtains infused with lime juice in a futile attempt to block out this terrible whiff.
After much holding of noses it was decided to suspend Parliament and sort this dilemma out once and for all. So, they handed a contract to the well renowned Civil Engineer of the time Sir Joseph Bazelgette to design and build a sewage system for London. At the time this was the largest and most complex project on Planet Earth. Like the majority of Great British Victorian engineers he succeeded!
Now for the irony!
Sir Joseph Bazelgette was charged with shovelling the crap out of society! His great-great-Grandson, Peter Bazelgette introduced the UK to Big Brother and started shovelling the crap back in again!
Ain't History a funny thing?
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Post by yeokel on Feb 8, 2019 9:23:01 GMT
Hot water freezes faster than cold water. Scientists don't know why this is. At 0°C, is ice melting or is water freezing?
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