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Post by madmickthe3rd on Jan 27, 2019 16:06:52 GMT
Sat behind the dug out yesterday. When the 2nd goal went in, NJ absolutely and completely imploded with anger and frustration. He was screaming and jumping around in an absolute rage. I have never seen anything like it!
If our players showed just half of this passion we would be much better for it.
This told me a few things :-
1 ) He really does care and wants to succeed. He is not here for the healthy financial benefits. 2) He is determined to get this project right and i'm convinced he will. 3) The penny has finally dropped in his mind that this squad is no where near good enough.
Lets give him our total support. We aren't going up this year, accept that, and as Rome wasn't built in a day, we need to give him a good season or so to work his magic as he has picked up a right dog of a squad that absolutely no manager out there could get ticking anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 16:12:35 GMT
Totally agree and once he manages to get rid of the disjointed dysfunctional rabble that we have here at the moment he will build something special here
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Post by ceejays on Jan 27, 2019 16:14:50 GMT
Thanks for posting this. Fed up of the constant moaning on this board from so called fans half of whom have never kicked a ball
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Post by nott1 on Jan 27, 2019 16:15:30 GMT
He has a massive job to do that's a fact.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 27, 2019 16:18:56 GMT
He's not to blame. He's inherited a bunch of losers and bottle merchants.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Jan 27, 2019 16:22:48 GMT
It is amazing how someone could go from hero to zero in 7 days. He needs to be given time. Charlie Adam's unavailability was a problem for him. It is good that he is giving some of the younger players a runout, though I felt for poor Tymon who was out of his depth. The first half hour was dire (stray passing, beaten for pace much of the time and acres of spaces given the opposition just prior to the first goal). While fans were understandably frustrated yesterday (too much passing the ball back when in possession), I think he knows what he wants from his players and do his damndest to get them to achieve it. Judge him at the end of the season.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 27, 2019 16:25:56 GMT
Let's be fair though, how can that compare to the speed of the heads bowed and slumped shoulders of the defence 😁
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Post by Goonie on Jan 27, 2019 16:28:02 GMT
Big clear out required
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 27, 2019 16:41:44 GMT
Judge him at the end of the season. Which one?
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Post by rawli on Jan 27, 2019 16:42:43 GMT
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Post by philb on Jan 27, 2019 16:44:33 GMT
Saw the way he reacted myself. Hopefully he’s realised with this bunch that you simply can’t polish a turd 💩
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Post by onepara on Jan 27, 2019 16:47:03 GMT
Why did he sub Tymon 3 minutes from half time? Is this good man-management? Why didn't he wait until half time. It didn't do the young players confidence any good, did it? That one thing worries me about his thinking.
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Post by musik on Jan 27, 2019 16:49:43 GMT
Good thread.
Four managers in a year, is it?! It's not 100% the manager's fault then.
We must get rid of 4-5 players and get as many in. Let Nathan continue the work.
But essentially:
When does the window close?
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Post by Lesalanos on Jan 27, 2019 16:55:51 GMT
Why did he sub Tymon 3 minutes from half time? Is this good man-management? Why didn't he wait until half time. It didn't do the young players confidence any good, did it? That one thing worries me about his thinking. Why didn’t he sub him straight after the goal? I get the comment about confidence, but I can only assume that he was that bad they thought he was injured, or that bad they darent hang on.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 27, 2019 16:56:15 GMT
Why did he sub Tymon 3 minutes from half time? Is this good man-management? Why didn't he wait until half time. It didn't do the young players confidence any good, did it? That one thing worries me about his thinking. On the flip side of that it shows he flexible and not afraid to admit his mistakes too
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Post by chad on Jan 27, 2019 17:00:27 GMT
Sat behind the dug out yesterday. When the 2nd goal went in, NJ absolutely and completely imploded with anger and frustration. He was screaming and jumping around in an absolute rage. I have never seen anything like it! If our players showed just half of this passion we would be much better for it. This told me a few things :- 1 ) He really does care and wants to succeed. He is not here for the healthy financial benefits. 2) He is determined to get this project right and i'm convinced he will. 3) The penny has finally dropped in his mind that this squad is no where near good enough. Lets give him our total support. We aren't going up this year, accept that, and as Rome wasn't built in a day, we need to give him a good season or so to work his magic as he has picked up a right dog of a squad that absolutely no manager out there could get ticking anytime soon. He’ll get our support I’m sure More importantly he needs the support of Peter and John to make sure he gets HIS players in and if he wants a centre back that’s going to cost £5/6 million they should be signing the bloody cheque tonight
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Post by Sven on Jan 27, 2019 17:04:01 GMT
saw this to from block 26, he had a proper rage on, just before they broke and scored it looked like he was frantically trying to get our players back in position as i think he could see what was happening or possibly going to happen but they were way to slow to react as per usual.
He has my support fully for at least 18 months, hes taken on a shite job as did lambert and rowett, we cant keep changing managers and there is no quick fix for this fuckfest of a mess we're in. For me anyone and i mean anyone can leave so he can rebuild.
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Post by Goonie on Jan 27, 2019 17:09:10 GMT
With extra prune, dates, rhubarb and custard 😉
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 27, 2019 17:11:29 GMT
Passion is great. But you have to question that shite show of a performance yesterday and the selections/subs.
He’s got a job on, that’s for sure
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 27, 2019 17:23:26 GMT
Why did he sub Tymon 3 minutes from half time? Is this good man-management? Why didn't he wait until half time. It didn't do the young players confidence any good, did it? That one thing worries me about his thinking. Maybe he was concerned that we’d concede another before half time. If he decided he was going to make a change why should he wait? It’s how he handles the situation subsequently with Tymon that’s important
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 27, 2019 17:30:26 GMT
Sat behind the dug out yesterday. When the 2nd goal went in, NJ absolutely and completely imploded with anger and frustration. He was screaming and jumping around in an absolute rage. I have never seen anything like it! If our players showed just half of this passion we would be much better for it. This told me a few things :- 1 ) He really does care and wants to succeed. He is not here for the healthy financial benefits. 2) He is determined to get this project right and i'm convinced he will. 3) The penny has finally dropped in his mind that this squad is no where near good enough. Lets give him our total support. We aren't going up this year, accept that, and as Rome wasn't built in a day, we need to give him a good season or so to work his magic as he has picked up a right dog of a squad that absolutely no manager out there could get ticking anytime soon. I sit behind the dug outs as well, couldn’t make it yesterday but against Leeds he was also going mad at times and guiding Bauer in a positional sense
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Post by wuzza on Jan 27, 2019 17:35:45 GMT
A good manager should be able to motivate and develop his existing staff so it’s not all about getting shot of everyone on the books ( an impossibly time consuming and expensive process) it’s about him finding the best system for the talent he has available and coaching and developing them accordingly. There have been reports that the mood has lifted since his arrival so that’s part one of his job done now let’s see if he is up to rest of the the multi faceted challenge that SCFC currently is. Nothing is proven one way or the other as yet.
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 27, 2019 17:37:43 GMT
Why did he sub Tymon 3 minutes from half time? Is this good man-management? Why didn't he wait until half time. It didn't do the young players confidence any good, did it? That one thing worries me about his thinking. If someone needs replacing it doesn’t matter what time it is I don’t think he needs any lessons on man management, ask the Luton players who were devastated when he left
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 27, 2019 17:38:52 GMT
Thanks for posting this. Fed up of the constant moaning on this board from so called fans half of whom have never kicked a ball Going off track a little but why does it matter if they've kicked a ball or not?
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Post by mickey4137 on Jan 27, 2019 17:42:33 GMT
Why did he sub Tymon 3 minutes from half time? Is this good man-management? Why didn't he wait until half time. It didn't do the young players confidence any good, did it? That one thing worries me about his thinking. Because he was absolute dog shit and a complete liability. He shouldn't be anywhere near that team, but with Woods and Adam injured he didn't have a choice but to play Clucas in midfield.
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Post by neddy on Jan 27, 2019 17:44:01 GMT
Why did he sub Tymon 3 minutes from half time? Is this good man-management? Why didn't he wait until half time. It didn't do the young players confidence any good, did it? That one thing worries me about his thinking. Because he was absolute dog shit and a complete liability. He shouldn't be anywhere near that team, but with Woods and Adam injured he didn't have a choice but to play Clucas in midfield. But why not play Pieters then?
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Post by bertiebigguns on Jan 27, 2019 17:47:12 GMT
What was his reaction when fucknuts bottled the penalty?
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 27, 2019 18:02:16 GMT
Judge him at the end of the season. Which one? 2019-2020 for me. Wtite off this season 3 windows we may have a team that can compete
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 27, 2019 18:07:55 GMT
A good manager should be able to motivate and develop his existing staff so it’s not all about getting shot of everyone on the books ( an impossibly time consuming and expensive process) it’s about him finding the best system for the talent he has available and coaching and developing them accordingly. There have been reports that the mood has lifted since his arrival so that’s part one of his job done now let’s see if he is up to rest of the the multi faceted challenge that SCFC currently is. Nothing is proven one way or the other as yet. The problem can be that individuals are fine and good quality but they cannot gel as a team. Some people are just incompatible and others in a different wavelength. It's the risk when taking a good player from one team where he is performing and he underperforms in the new one. We seem to have a bunch of strangers at times. Thankfully Jones has a philosophy about the character type he wants.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 27, 2019 18:12:35 GMT
.....something that has been needed for some time now. Even worse the summer transfer window appears to have added a fair few new names to that list!! Unfortunately no other club appears to want the players who need to be cleared out......well not at the wages we're paying these feckless wasters anyway. NJ has a big job infront of him and it's going need patience from all concerned I reckon.
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