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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 19, 2019 16:57:28 GMT
And it should never have been in doubt. 3-5-2 is where it's at, and our new manager had the guts to try it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 16:58:10 GMT
Nah, think it was just for one game. Would rather we nailed the diamond.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 19, 2019 17:00:17 GMT
Nah, think it was just for one game. Would rather we nailed the diamond. It's no coincidence we won. It suits our players. Nathan knows. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 17:01:55 GMT
Nah, think it was just for one game. Would rather we nailed the diamond. It's no coincidence we won. It suits our players. Nathan knows. Are we going to need five defenders against Millwall, Bolton etc though? Would rather we had a 10 to feed the strikers. We were just setting up to play the league leaders today and it worked brilliantly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 17:02:43 GMT
It works for today's game, but not a chance do we go that defensive every game. I have a feeling he's done it to catch Bielsa out too.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 19, 2019 17:03:10 GMT
Nah, think it was just for one game. Would rather we nailed the diamond. Nah, leaves us too exposed in the middle. I'm happy with this, think it's ideal until we get some defenders in. |
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 19, 2019 17:03:21 GMT
Nah, think it was just for one game. Would rather we nailed the diamond. It's no coincidence we won. It suits our players. Nathan knows. It'll only be a temporary thing. Once he gets his players in, we'll go back to the diamond. |
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 19, 2019 17:04:56 GMT
Bauer keeping himself fit and playing like a good wing back has made a big difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 17:04:58 GMT
I've been saying for months that this squad has a Hughes 3 at the back hangover, but with actual wing backs in it, unlike under Hughes.
Thank god someone has noticed
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 17:05:00 GMT
Nah, think it was just for one game. Would rather we nailed the diamond. Nah, leaves us too exposed in the middle. I'm happy with this, think it's ideal until we get some defenders in. I understand, I thought he went for 3 CBs due to lack of trust in them. If we get CBs in this window then I presume we’ll be fine with a pairing at the back again. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 19, 2019 17:06:36 GMT
It's no coincidence we won. It suits our players. Nathan knows. It'll only be a temporary thing. Once he gets his players in, we'll go back to the diamond. Pah! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 17:06:41 GMT
It's no coincidence we won. It suits our players. Nathan knows. Are we going to need five defenders against Millwall, Bolton etc though? Would rather we had a 10 to feed the strikers. We were just setting up to play the league leaders today and it worked brilliantly. The wingbacks will have more opportunity to get forward against lesser sides |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 19, 2019 17:07:38 GMT
It was more fluid than 3 - 5 - 2. Fair play to NJ!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 19, 2019 17:07:43 GMT
I've been saying for months that this squad has a Hughes 3 at the back hangover, but with actual wing backs in it, unlike under Hughes. Thank god someone has noticed Join the Cheeese and Dicky club, baby! |
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Post by larstoke on Jan 19, 2019 17:09:00 GMT
it really got the best out of many of our players and fixed some trouble areas. hope we stick with 3-5-2.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 19, 2019 17:09:08 GMT
Clucas looks much better on the left. He's not a central midfielder
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Post by ed5993 on Jan 19, 2019 17:12:39 GMT
Looked a hundred times better today than against Brentford in that shape. Clucas Allen and especially Ince really really struggled with the diamond. Maybe he'll revert back to it in time, but I don't think we have the current players to properly nail it.
Even with the 3 CMs we played today, we could always replace one with Ince or Bojan for more of an attacking intent. Don't know if they're fit and fighting enough for NJ though.
Etebo looked good again - I could imagine he could flourish under Jones.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 19, 2019 17:16:34 GMT
Looked a hundred times better today than against Brentford in that shape. Clucas Allen and especially Ince really really struggled with the diamond. Maybe he'll revert back to it in time, but I don't think we have the current players to properly nail it. Even with the 3 CMs we played today, we could always replace one with Ince or Bojan for more of an attacking intent. Don't know if they're fit and fighting enough for NJ though. Etebo looked good again - I could imagine he could flourish under Jones. Nice to have a manager with some imagination, isn't it? |
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Post by greystokie on Jan 19, 2019 17:18:00 GMT
That set up better suits the players we currently have on our books. I'm sure that, in time, and as we recruit new players we will make the transition to Jones' more favoured lineup.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 19, 2019 17:19:26 GMT
All credit to Jones, he’s got some brass balls playing that system in a game against the league leaders. It’s not a system he’s got any track record with, but he’s quickly identified that he doesn’t (yet) have the personnel for his preferred option, and he’s made a ballsy decision to change it. Top class management, and he’s out-thought an opposition manager who’s supposedly one of the greatest minds in world football. He’s also taken a squad completely devoid of confidence and self- belief, and got them to outrun and out-fight one of the best pressing teams in the league. If that’s the impact he can make in just a couple of weeks, this could be a fucking joyride once he’s had some time to mound the club into what he really wants. Early days I know, but what a fucking impact he’s had so far.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 19, 2019 17:25:44 GMT
All credit to Jones, he’s got some brass balls playing that system in a game against the league leaders. It’s not a system he’s got any track record with, but he’s quickly identified that he doesn’t (yet) have the personnel for his preferred option, and he’s made a ballsy decision to change it. Top class management, and he’s out-thought an opposition manager who’s supposedly one of the greatest minds in world football. He’s also taken a squad completely devoid of confidence and self- belief, and got them to outrun and out-fight one of the best pressing teams in the league. If that’s the impact he can make in just a couple of weeks, this could be a fucking joyride once he’s had some time to mound the club into what he really wants. Early days I know, but what a fucking impact he’s had so far. Totally agree. I think Jones will prove to be a great manager for us, and was a cracking appointment. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 19, 2019 17:36:02 GMT
I think it suits what we had available but I still think he’d rather go with the diamond. For that we’d need
1 or preferably 2 new CBs
1 attacking LB
1 DM
Adam was brilliant but I don’t think he looks on him as a long term solution. I can see him liking Bojan when fit at the point.
Of the 11 today I think he probably sees 6 in the team he wants to build
Butland
Bauer
Etebo
Allen
Campbell
Afobe
Until next season though I’d imagine he’ll stick with 352
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 18:36:31 GMT
It works for today's game, but not a chance do we go that defensive every game. I have a feeling he's done it to catch Bielsa out too. Yup |
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 19, 2019 18:47:24 GMT
We did well with it today but I don’t think we’ll be playing it long term. NJ has shown his tactical astuteness and used it today purely to counter Leeds.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Jan 19, 2019 18:50:38 GMT
It works for today's game, but not a chance do we go that defensive every game. I have a feeling he's done it to catch Bielsa out too. Yup what is this adjusting tactics you speak of?  |
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Post by rorystowel on Jan 19, 2019 18:50:54 GMT
All credit to Jones, he’s got some brass balls playing that system in a game against the league leaders. It’s not a system he’s got any track record with, but he’s quickly identified that he doesn’t (yet) have the personnel for his preferred option, and he’s made a ballsy decision to change it. Top class management, and he’s out-thought an opposition manager who’s supposedly one of the greatest minds in world football. He’s also taken a squad completely devoid of confidence and self- belief, and got them to outrun and out-fight one of the best pressing teams in the league. If that’s the impact he can make in just a couple of weeks, this could be a fucking joyride once he’s had some time to mound the club into what he really wants. Early days I know, but what a fucking impact he’s had so far. Absolutely spot on. |
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Post by Absolution on Jan 19, 2019 19:06:51 GMT
It works for today's game, but not a chance do we go that defensive every game. I have a feeling he's done it to catch Bielsa out too. Yup So after a week where Bielsa somehow reaffirmed his credentials as a genius by cheating, our manager uses it against him and wins. Top bollocks! 😁 |
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Post by onyourbonce on Jan 19, 2019 19:09:52 GMT
It's no coincidence we won. It suits our players. Nathan knows. Are we going to need five defenders against Millwall, Bolton etc though? Would rather we had a 10 to feed the strikers. We were just setting up to play the league leaders today and it worked brilliantly. Tbh with this formation when we play the lesser teams I imagine the wing backs will have more license to go forward and support the attack. And I’m sure Nathan will give them that instruction. It’s about adapting to the opposition. We’ve finally got a manager who I feel knows what he’s doing. If he gets the personnel for his favoured diamond then all is good, but if we can nail this system then it can be successful without doubt |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 19:13:10 GMT
Given how slow our CBs are I think we need all three of them back there, it worked very well today and they all played great. Fair play to NJ and our defence. Afobe was superb today too.
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