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Post by raythesailor on Jan 18, 2019 10:49:10 GMT
Would you be happy if yourself, parent or grandparent was still driving on today’s buissy highways at this age?
Prince Philip had a lucky escape but the outcome could have been far more serious not only for him but also for the other people involved.
Why a person of his staure and no doubt accompanied by protection officers is behind the wheel is surprising to say the least.
Of course every case is individual but I would have thought at that age I Personaly would have called it a day.
on a side note it would be interesting to know if he was breathalysed. Any body else would have been.
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Post by dadofsam on Jan 18, 2019 10:51:23 GMT
The reports say both Phil the Greek and the other car driver were both breathalysed - I doubt we'd ever know if He did fail.
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Post by werrington on Jan 18, 2019 10:54:44 GMT
Was he driving through a Paris tunnel in September 1997?
I know I know
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 18, 2019 10:59:48 GMT
No you shouldn’t be for me,having been in the the car with my Mum lately(who’s 80 soon) I didn’t know it was possible to rev a car so much😄.
Another issue is the Alzheimer’s question and when to take the car of the person concerned which we’ve had to do with the father in law in the last year
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Post by elystokie on Jan 18, 2019 11:02:43 GMT
I'd like to see compulsory annual testing for anybody over the age of 80, 85 at a push.
We were in a long queue of traffic on Trentham Road a few weeks ago, all caused by an elderly gentleman who seemingly refused to go over 20 mph, when we passed him the way he was peering through the windscreen indicated he could barely see where he was going, crazy that he's still allowed to drive.
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 18, 2019 11:05:56 GMT
The reports say both Phil the Greek and the other car driver were both breathalysed - I doubt we'd ever know if He did fail. He could have said his wife was driving. 😀 i believe she she is immune to prosecution! |
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Post by flea79 on Jan 18, 2019 11:15:32 GMT
no shouldnt be driving, we had a quandry with my grandad when he reached 90 and was still pootling about in his car, he wasnt safe but didnt want to take the last bit of freedom from him, in the end he told us he was stopping when his mot tax and insurance were due.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 18, 2019 11:15:36 GMT
Was he driving through a Paris tunnel in September 1997? I know I know In a Fiat Uno? |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 18, 2019 11:18:17 GMT
It’s a disgrace and totally selfish as he doesn’t have to even drive with all the security they have that could drive him.
A man of his age does not have the awareness or reaction to cope with driving.
Thank god the people in the other car weren’t badly hurt. He’s just a selfish sod.
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Jan 18, 2019 11:23:29 GMT
As usual ridiculous over the top coverage on the news last night, all the concern for royal idiot who most likely caused it and next to no mention about the occupants of the other car
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Post by stokienorthants on Jan 18, 2019 11:31:50 GMT
As usual ridiculous over the top coverage on the news last night, all the concern for royal idiot who most likely caused it and next to no mention about the occupants of the other car My thoughts exactly I understand that there was a baby in the other vehicle. |
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Post by OldStokie on Jan 18, 2019 11:36:23 GMT
I'd like to see compulsory annual testing for anybody over the age of 80, 85 at a push. We were in a long queue of traffic on Trentham Road a few weeks ago, all caused by an elderly gentleman who seemingly refused to go over 20 mph, when we passed him the way he was peering through the windscreen indicated he could barely see where he was going, crazy that he's still allowed to drive. Robbie... I'm pushing 80, still got all my mental *attributes* intact and I'll match myself against most drivers, whatever age they are. I drove to Cornwall a coupla years ago in my lad's Audi TT. I didn't set off until 0400; put my flat cap on, chucked the dog in the car, and was in Tintagel in just over 2 1/2 hours. I rarely dropped below xxx mph. I'm still as mad as I was when I was driving motor bikes at 16 and cars at 17.  But I drive on my experience these days and make allowances for the slight reaction delay that comes with old age. Experience? I was driving cars when I was 17, heavy trucks when I was 18, artics, unit-trailers, tank transporters when I was 20, and so on. I haven't had a car accident for 50 years and my daughter says I'm the only person she feels safe with when she's a passenger. Having said all that, I would agree with you that drivers of 80 and older should take a test again but not one annually. One every five years thereafter should suffice with an upper age limit of 90. But that test should be based on competence and mental awareness and not all the bullshit they throw at learners these days. I know some drivers who have passed their test and they daren't drive on a motorway. I know another who is afraid of roundabouts. And these are relatively young people. As for the daft old sod we're talking about, I wouldn't get in a car with him on a public highway. He looks like death warmed up and should never be driving, not for his sake but because he's a danger to others. I couldn't give a toss if he'd killed himself but I do care about those two women who fell foul of his idiocy. I hope the old fart gets banned for life. (No other comments. ) M. |
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Post by OldStokie on Jan 18, 2019 11:48:34 GMT
no shouldnt be driving, we had a quandry with my grandad when he reached 90 and was still pootling about in his car, he wasnt safe but didnt want to take the last bit of freedom from him, in the end he told us he was stopping when his mot tax and insurance were due. Flea... I can understand your quandary. You want to stop him from driving because you love him but you don't want to restrict his freedom because you love him. I have the answer...  OS. |
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Post by elystokie on Jan 18, 2019 12:08:11 GMT
I'd like to see compulsory annual testing for anybody over the age of 80, 85 at a push. We were in a long queue of traffic on Trentham Road a few weeks ago, all caused by an elderly gentleman who seemingly refused to go over 20 mph, when we passed him the way he was peering through the windscreen indicated he could barely see where he was going, crazy that he's still allowed to drive. Robbie... I'm pushing 80, still got all my mental *attributes* intact and I'll match myself against most drivers, whatever age they are. I drove to Cornwall a coupla years ago in my lad's Audi TT. I didn't set off until 0400; put my flat cap on, chucked the dog in the car, and was in Tintagel in just over 2 1/2 hours. I rarely dropped below xxx mph. I'm still as mad as I was when I was driving motor bikes at 16 and cars at 17. But I drive on my experience these days and make allowances for the slight reaction delay that comes with old age. Experience? I was driving cars when I was 17, heavy trucks when I was 18, artics, unit-trailers, tank transporters when I was 20, and so on. I haven't had a car accident for 50 years and my daughter says I'm the only person she feels safe with when she's a passenger. Having said all that, I would agree with you that drivers of 80 and older should take a test again but not one annually. One every five years thereafter should suffice with an upper age limit of 90. But that test should be based on competence and mental awareness and not all the bullshit they throw at learners these days. I know some drivers who have passed their test and they daren't drive on a motorway. I know another who is afraid of roundabouts. And these are relatively young people. As for the daft old sod we're talking about, I wouldn't get in a car with him on a public highway. He looks like death warmed up and should never be driving, not for his sake but because he's a danger to others. I couldn't give a toss if he'd killed himself but I do care about those two women who fell foul of his idiocy. I hope the old fart gets banned for life. (No other comments. ) M. Fair enough Mick, maybe every year is a bit much, I do agree that it should be focused more on awareness and competence. I don't know where the law stands on eyesight for elderly drivers but if that isn't an area that's currently under scrutiny then it should be. My lad suffers from an eye condition called nystagmus and struggles to pass the number plate reading test, he's therefore not allowed any sort of driving licence, even a provisional, but I'd wager that he can see far better than a good percentage of elderly drivers. Having been in a car with you once Mick (albeit years ago and I was a bit 'under the influence') I can happily recommend your taxi services |
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Post by felonious on Jan 18, 2019 14:35:26 GMT
I'd like to see compulsory annual testing for anybody over the age of 80, 85 at a push. We were in a long queue of traffic on Trentham Road a few weeks ago, all caused by an elderly gentleman who seemingly refused to go over 20 mph, when we passed him the way he was peering through the windscreen indicated he could barely see where he was going, crazy that he's still allowed to drive. I had a similar one with an elderly couple yesterday pulling out of the car park at Tittesworth. I thought the car in front was going slowly due to the on site speed bumps and the 10mph speed limit not that he was going that fast but eventually he pulled in to let me past before we got to the road. It's worrying that he seemed to have no idea of the hold ups he must be causing. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 18, 2019 17:55:04 GMT
The reports say both Phil the Greek and the other car driver were both breathalysed - I doubt we'd ever know if He did fail. If he did that would be a real coup for the police officer. He may still face charges of driving without due care and attention. One will not be pleased. |
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 18, 2019 20:35:38 GMT
The reports say both Phil the Greek and the other car driver were both breathalysed - I doubt we'd ever know if He did fail. If he did that would be a real coup for the police officer. He may still face charges of driving without due care and attention. One will not be pleased. The protection officers will far outrank any PC traffic cops who were first on scene. They will have been what To do and go away. Phil the Greek was whisked away and back in Sandringham before the paramedics and any other senior officers even knew about the event. The poor other victims will be placated, the press subjued, end of story. Stink, Stink we can only sit back and accept. 😥 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 20:40:36 GMT
Doesn't look like he's stopping driving anytime soon ! The passenger in the other car sustained a broken wrist, but thankfully the baby was uninjured. Prince Philip gets another Land Rover delivered just hours after car crash link |
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 18, 2019 21:08:56 GMT
Doesn't look like he's stopping driving anytime soon ! The passenger in the other car sustained a broken wrist, but thankfully the baby was uninjured. Prince Philip gets another Land Rover delivered just hours after car crash linkWell the Smell gets worse and worse. Meanwhile a commercial salesman looses his livelihood, splits up his marraige for collecting extra points passing a concealed “TAFFIC SAFETY” vehicle in Tittensor near Stoke on Trent. |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Jan 18, 2019 21:13:04 GMT
It sounds like he enjoys driving on the Sandringham Estate and I don't have a problem with that since it is private property. It looked from the map that he was trying to cross over the A149 onto another private road and that's where the incident ocurred.
I would guess now that he will stop driving on public roads and stick to the many miles of private roads and tracks he has access to on the Queen's estates.
I've read several reports which state that his Land Rover was armour plated which is why he was able to walk away from the crash. I presume his new one is too and it was already in the royal fleet hence the quick replacement.
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Post by lordb on Jan 18, 2019 21:17:16 GMT
I'd like to see compulsory annual testing for anybody over the age of 80, 85 at a push. We were in a long queue of traffic on Trentham Road a few weeks ago, all caused by an elderly gentleman who seemingly refused to go over 20 mph, when we passed him the way he was peering through the windscreen indicated he could barely see where he was going, crazy that he's still allowed to drive. Robbie... I'm pushing 80, still got all my mental *attributes* intact and I'll match myself against most drivers, whatever age they are. I drove to Cornwall a coupla years ago in my lad's Audi TT. I didn't set off until 0400; put my flat cap on, chucked the dog in the car, and was in Tintagel in just over 2 1/2 hours. I rarely dropped below xxx mph. I'm still as mad as I was when I was driving motor bikes at 16 and cars at 17. But I drive on my experience these days and make allowances for the slight reaction delay that comes with old age. Experience? I was driving cars when I was 17, heavy trucks when I was 18, artics, unit-trailers, tank transporters when I was 20, and so on. I haven't had a car accident for 50 years and my daughter says I'm the only person she feels safe with when she's a passenger. Having said all that, I would agree with you that drivers of 80 and older should take a test again but not one annually. One every five years thereafter should suffice with an upper age limit of 90. But that test should be based on competence and mental awareness and not all the bullshit they throw at learners these days. I know some drivers who have passed their test and they daren't drive on a motorway. I know another who is afraid of roundabouts. And these are relatively young people. As for the daft old sod we're talking about, I wouldn't get in a car with him on a public highway. He looks like death warmed up and should never be driving, not for his sake but because he's a danger to others. I couldn't give a toss if he'd killed himself but I do care about those two women who fell foul of his idiocy. I hope the old fart gets banned for life. (No other comments. ) M. Having worked in insurance the amount of times I've heard this from older drivers only for them to have accident after accident is untrue. It doesn't matter how good a driver your body eventually let's you down. Sad but true. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jan 18, 2019 21:34:48 GMT
My Dad is 92 still driving very well and going to home games when I take him. He's a very accurate model maker and can use a lathe better than most. His time will come obviously but he knows what he's doing.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 19, 2019 12:40:54 GMT
If he did that would be a real coup for the police officer. He may still face charges of driving without due care and attention. One will not be pleased. The protection officers will far outrank any PC traffic cops who were first on scene. They will have been what To do and go away. Phil the Greek was whisked away and back in Sandringham before the paramedics and any other senior officers even knew about the event. The poor other victims will be placated, the press subjued, end of story. Stink, Stink we can only sit back and accept. 😥 According to press no protection officers were with him and this is being investigated by the palace. |
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Post by trentvale68 on Jan 19, 2019 12:42:46 GMT
As usual ridiculous over the top coverage on the news last night, all the concern for royal idiot who most likely caused it and next to no mention about the occupants of the other car My thoughts exactly I understand that there was a baby in the other vehicle. Agreed, selfish old buzzard. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 20, 2019 3:41:56 GMT
The dukes a hazard
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Post by liam007 on Jan 20, 2019 5:46:10 GMT
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Post by trentvale68 on Jan 20, 2019 14:34:12 GMT
No apology either from the Palace as of yet.
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Post by wrighter on Jan 20, 2019 14:52:32 GMT
Diana"s revenge !!!
Got a new car, and was caught today driving again, this time NOT wearing a seat belt
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jan 20, 2019 15:55:37 GMT
I'd like to see compulsory annual testing for anybody over the age of 80, 85 at a push. We were in a long queue of traffic on Trentham Road a few weeks ago, all caused by an elderly gentleman who seemingly refused to go over 20 mph, when we passed him the way he was peering through the windscreen indicated he could barely see where he was going, crazy that he's still allowed to drive. That must have been Peter Coates looking for a new manager on the way to the ground. |
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Post by trentvale68 on Jan 20, 2019 16:00:44 GMT
Diana"s revenge !!! Got a new car, and was caught today driving again, this time NOT wearing a seat belt Just when I thought my dislike for the royals couldn't get any bigger. |
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But I drive on my experience these days and make allowances for the slight reaction delay that comes with old age. Experience? I was driving cars when I was 17, heavy trucks when I was 18, artics, unit-trailers, tank transporters when I was 20, and so on.
