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Post by Fegg 'Ayes Observer on Jan 13, 2019 16:56:29 GMT
The trouble is Berahino is so crap no decent club would bid for him which only leaves Div 1 and lower and they certainly couldn’t afford to pay the £35k reduced wages he is picking up now.
No, we are saddled with him for the length of his contract. Should have been sent back to the Baggies under the Trades Description Act.
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Post by knyperstokie on Jan 13, 2019 17:29:42 GMT
I still can't understand why we bought him in the first place. I can only think that someone thought that we could turn him into a world class striker with a bit of TLC that he wasn't getting at WBA.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 13, 2019 18:52:45 GMT
I take the point people make about Berahino not getting the service and to a degree this is true.
However take the Shrewsbury FA cup game, Berahino did absolutely fuck all for 60 minutes, Rowett brings on Campbell who takes players on and makes things happen. As a striker sometimes you need to try and go past players, you need to have a dip now and again and you need to chase down all flick ons and rebounds looking for scraps.
Saido holds the ball up well, links up play but that’s your lot. He has never been good enough and hopefully Jones will realise this sharpish and not make the same mistakes as Hughes, Lambert and Rowett
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 13, 2019 18:54:11 GMT
I still can't understand why we bought him in the first place. I can only think that someone thought that we could turn him into a world class striker with a bit of TLC that he wasn't getting at WBA. true, if he were any good there’s no way Pulis would have sold him to us
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 13, 2019 20:51:42 GMT
Can't wait for him to piss off somewhere else. Nobody will want him though.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 13, 2019 21:25:53 GMT
Jones wants athleticism and physicality. He wants his attackers to press and win the ball.
Berahino just can't do that, we've seen all we will see from him. Maybe we could get rid of him to someone at this level or below on loan now. He seems a good egg these days and perhaps someone will at least pay part of his wages. He has no future here
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Post by jontimmis on Jan 13, 2019 23:47:54 GMT
I think despite having lots more game time this season, he doesn’t set the world alight does he. He’s bang average at best. He makes Maupay look like messi.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 0:01:01 GMT
Huddersfield interested but after having their hands burnt with Ramadan they are holding fire
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 14, 2019 0:07:53 GMT
I still can't understand why we bought him in the first place. I can only think that someone thought that we could turn him into a world class striker with a bit of TLC that he wasn't getting at WBA. true, if he were any good there’s no way Pulis would have sold him to us Unless he wanted Screw Scholes/Cartwight over because they screwed him over 😏
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Jan 14, 2019 0:20:28 GMT
true, if he were any good there’s no way Pulis would have sold him to us Unless he wanted Screw Scholes/Cartwight over because they screwed him over 😏 Believe me, he was cut a lot of slack at WBAFC, well before Our Tone pitched up. He flung it back in the club's face.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 0:22:52 GMT
Saido Berahino = Kyle Lightbourne. He will probably end up at Macc Town. He tries hard, but is not convincing.
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Post by Fegg 'Ayes Observer on Jan 15, 2019 8:41:29 GMT
The sad thing is with Berahino being so thick, he probably still thinks and believes he’s the greatest footballer on the planet. Reckon you’re about right Flash, Macclesfield Town is about his level although Sol Campbell probably wouldn’t entertain the twat.
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Post by adamsson on Jan 15, 2019 9:07:53 GMT
Saido Berahino = Kyle Lightbourne. He will probably end up at Macc Town. He tries hard, but is not convincing. Kyle Lightbourne was a much better player, he scored more goals and he could be effective played behind Peter Thorne.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 9:15:48 GMT
I don't think Opta will cover this but I'd still love to know how many times he's been played through on goal by a midfielder in his Stoke career. Also the fact he's been having to doing donkey work on the half way line for most of the season without a link between midfield and attack.
Same for Afobe as well, it is quite clear what the guy can do when he gets a sight on goal.
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Post by chumley on Jan 15, 2019 9:55:43 GMT
He keeps escaping criticism but he’s weak as piss. A complete passenger. i mentioned this before and got hammered big style, nice to see that others can see it, get rid he's not gonna make it back to his best.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 15, 2019 9:58:57 GMT
How many seasons do you need to wait for a player to hit form?😬
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2019 10:08:16 GMT
I think he's having a decent season, all things being relative. Not quite sure where the venom comes from. Didn't deserve to be dropped at Bolton.
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Post by camstoke10 on Jan 15, 2019 10:17:04 GMT
Like someone has said above, he has not been played 1 on 1 woth the keeper this season, our midfielders are nit good enough, Louis moult is not better than berahino but moult has been scoring, want know why that is? Because they have fast wingers who take their men on, and a midfield who can play a through ball, we have no pace or no good passer in the side
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Post by camstoke10 on Jan 15, 2019 10:19:02 GMT
I think he's having a decent season, all things being relative. Not quite sure where the venom comes from. Didn't deserve to be dropped at Bolton. It’s because his name isn’t bojan, he’s done more than bojan this season but berahino should go and bojan should stay? Clueless. (I want them both stay)
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 15, 2019 12:09:18 GMT
I think he's having a decent season, all things being relative. Not quite sure where the venom comes from. Didn't deserve to be dropped at Bolton. Probably some residuals from last season TA but also he was brought in to score goals and that seems to be the weakest part of his game. Can’t see him lasting
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2019 12:12:13 GMT
I think he's having a decent season, all things being relative. Not quite sure where the venom comes from. Didn't deserve to be dropped at Bolton. Probably some residuals from last season TA but also he was brought in to score goals and that seems to be the weakest part of his game. Can’t see him lasting He hasn’t actually started much as a striker this season though has he? And the lone striker’s role isn’t necessarily purely about scoring goals.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 15, 2019 12:16:24 GMT
Probably some residuals from last season TA but also he was brought in to score goals and that seems to be the weakest part of his game. Can’t see him lasting He hasn’t actually started much as a striker this season though has he? And the lone striker’s role isn’t necessarily purely about scoring goals. Fair enough but the couple of chances he’s had he hadn’t been convincing. Even allowing for playing out near the wing it shouldn’t be unreasonable to expect him to have scored a couple of more goals.
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Post by westgatelakes on Jan 15, 2019 12:30:46 GMT
Both Berahino and Afobe will score goals if balls are played in front of them to run onto. Unfortunately we either haven`t realised this or more likely are unable to do this.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 15, 2019 12:35:54 GMT
Both Berahino and Afobe will score goals if balls are played in front of them to run onto. Unfortunately we either haven`t realised this or more likely are unable to do this. Only because Bojan isn't on.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 15, 2019 12:43:40 GMT
I think he's having a decent season, all things being relative. Not quite sure where the venom comes from. Didn't deserve to be dropped at Bolton. 22 games and 3 goals and 1 assist. I'd describe it as 'Average' at best. He has to be judged on goals or assists as a minimum. Far from decent.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2019 12:52:19 GMT
I think he's having a decent season, all things being relative. Not quite sure where the venom comes from. Didn't deserve to be dropped at Bolton. 22 games and 3 goals and 1 assist. I'd describe it as 'Average' at best. He has to be judged on goals or assists as a minimum. Far from decent. Strikers aren’t necessarily judged on goals alone anymore. He’s had plenty of decent games this season and looked better leading the line than Afobe. He’s also only started 16 of those games and a good number of those starts didn’t come as a centre forward.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 15, 2019 12:56:05 GMT
22 games and 3 goals and 1 assist. I'd describe it as 'Average' at best. He has to be judged on goals or assists as a minimum. Far from decent. Strikers aren’t necessarily judged on goals alone anymore. He’s had plenty of decent games this season and looked better leading the line than Afobe. He’s also only started 16 of those games and a good number of those starts didn’t come as a centre forward. I don't buy it. He's there to score goals and create a few. He's scord 3 and created 1. Thats poor. Working hard and showing good intention are just not valid reasons.
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 15, 2019 12:59:58 GMT
It's truly bizarre how some posters still think Berahino is of any use to us. We have heard just about every excuse why he doesn't perform. Now it's because he hasn't had enough games as a striker. However Ince has scored and assisted more from out wide and even Joe Allen has better stats playing in midfield. It's our continual selection of Saido and indeed McClean that see us failing to score enough.As part of a front three they are simply not good enough. Also a brief look at the stats of some bang average strikers at other clubs only underlines how poor a contribution Saido has made...but hey he works hard makes great runs and holds the ball up well...christ on a bike!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2019 13:02:28 GMT
Strikers aren’t necessarily judged on goals alone anymore. He’s had plenty of decent games this season and looked better leading the line than Afobe. He’s also only started 16 of those games and a good number of those starts didn’t come as a centre forward. I don't buy it. He's there to score goals and create a few. He's scord 3 and created 1. Thats poor. Working hard and showing good intention are just not valid reasons. Presumably you have the same beef with Afobe?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 15, 2019 13:04:05 GMT
It's truly bizarre how some posters still think Berahino is of any use to us. We have heard just about every excuse why he doesn't perform. Now it's because he hasn't had enough games as a striker. However Ince has scored and assisted more from out wide and even Joe Allen has better stats playing in midfield. It's our continual selection of Saido and indeed McClean that see us failing to score enough.As part of a front three they are simply not good enough. Also a brief look at the stats of some bang average strikers at other clubs only underlines how poor a contribution Saido has made...but hey he works hard makes great runs and holds the ball up well...christ on a bike! The selection of Berahino is waaaaaaaay down the list of reasons why we don't score enough. Also, maybe if we had any other strikers who could work hard and hold the ball up, he wouldn't play? But we don't, do we?
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