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Berahino
Jan 8, 2019 12:33:47 GMT
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Post by camstoke10 on Jan 8, 2019 12:33:47 GMT
Will he be the striker that we thought we brought with a more attacking manager? I think he can easily bag 20 goals in this league.
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Post by lordb on Jan 8, 2019 12:35:40 GMT
He's rescued his career this season & I'm convinced he can score more goals but can't see him bagging 20 in a season
Who knows though?
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Post by Absolution on Jan 8, 2019 12:37:23 GMT
No one knows how any of the players will react to a new manager. If we're criticising Rowett for everything that went wrong, we should at least credit him for finding a way of making Berahino look like a footballer again.
Where Berahino's career goes from here is largely down to the player himself.
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Post by jzime on Jan 8, 2019 12:49:46 GMT
I don't ever see Berahino being the long-term answer to any of our major problems now, to be blunt. Wasted too many years of his early-20s being a bit petulant at West Brom (and here last season), which should have been the most important years of his development at a footballer. Doesn't really always seem fast enough and certainly isn't great in the air.
But he's turned it around to a small extent this season and come up with a handful of goals, we're all on his side and give him his chant when he does well, and there are obviously going to be no other clubs coming and in for him and taking his wages off us anytime soon.
So let's hope he can keep chipping away at it and that the next manager can get a bit of a tune out of him.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 8, 2019 13:01:32 GMT
He has been arguably our best player this season. Needs to be starting every game.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 8, 2019 13:05:13 GMT
No. He's shite and is judged by the lowest of incredibly low standards.
He would be one of the first out of the door for me.
Afobe is receiving tons of abuse but hes outperformed berahino easily in my opinion.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jan 8, 2019 13:06:10 GMT
Never mind all that, as long as Bojan plays the next manager will be fine
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 8, 2019 13:10:14 GMT
He’s still crap. Not as unbelievably shit as last year but, like at least a dozen others, needs moving on pronto (not that anyone would take him)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 13:12:05 GMT
He has been arguably our best player this season. Needs to be starting every game. That Berahino has managed to score goals again is quite an incredible feat considering how long he went without one. Stoke and Rowett certainly deserve credit for that. But when you look at how few he's actually scored over this half season, it's clear he's not yet the main man we want and need. But if Rowett is the only manager to get the somewhat best out of Saido, then I'm not bothered in the slightest if he was to join up with him at Rowett's next club, especially if he also takes McClean with him.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 8, 2019 13:13:02 GMT
No. He's shite is is judged by the lowest of incredibly low standards. He would be one of the first out of the door for me. Afobe is receiving tons of abuse but hes outperformed berahino easily in my opinion. Really ?
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 8, 2019 13:16:16 GMT
No. He's shite is is judged by the lowest of incredibly low standards. He would be one of the first out of the door for me. Afobe is receiving tons of abuse but hes outperformed berahino easily in my opinion. Bait of March4 proportions
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Post by metalhead on Jan 8, 2019 13:18:24 GMT
He has been arguably our best player this season. Needs to be starting every game. That Berahino has managed to score goals again is quite an incredible feat considering how long he went without one. Stoke and Rowett certainly deserve credit for that. But when you look at how few he's actually scored over this half season, it's clear he's not yet the main man we want and need. But if Rowett is the only manager to get the somewhat best out of Saido, then I'm not bothered in the slightest if he was to join up with him at Rowett's next club, especially if he also takes McClean with him. Ok mate.....
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Berahino
Jan 8, 2019 13:20:15 GMT
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Post by stokecitydom on Jan 8, 2019 13:20:15 GMT
No. He's shite is is judged by the lowest of incredibly low standards. He would be one of the first out of the door for me. Afobe is receiving tons of abuse but hes outperformed berahino easily in my opinion. I was with you until the last sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 13:29:00 GMT
3 League goals in 21 appearances. We really are doomed if we're pinning all our hopes on Saido. Granted he's improved a little bit but it wasn't really possible to get worse.
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Berahino
Jan 8, 2019 13:32:12 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 8, 2019 13:32:12 GMT
Given a strike partner,he will deliver.
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Berahino
Jan 8, 2019 13:32:33 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 8, 2019 13:32:33 GMT
Whoever comes in as manager, I hope they don't misuse the strikers by hanging them out on the wings again.....
And if he prefers the lone striker, then at least play someone closer, so the striker isn't isolated again!!!
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Post by wuzza on Jan 8, 2019 13:34:03 GMT
What has he done this season to suggest he is a good finisher - a goal scorer ?? Sorry but there has been a lot of wishful thinking involved in the assessments of his season so far.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 8, 2019 13:35:33 GMT
3 League goals in 21 appearances. We really are doomed if we're pinning all our hopes on Saido. Granted he's improved a little bit but it wasn't really possible to get worse. 15 starts. How many of them as an actual striker?
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Post by Fegg 'Ayes Observer on Jan 8, 2019 13:37:04 GMT
Berahino was crap under Hughes Berahino was crap under Lambert Berahino was crap under Rowett compared with what he should be doing as a £16m player.
You can’t make a silk purse out of a pigs ear and that’s what he is just like his West Brom mate McClean.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 13:44:00 GMT
3 League goals in 21 appearances. We really are doomed if we're pinning all our hopes on Saido. Granted he's improved a little bit but it wasn't really possible to get worse. 15 starts. How many of them as an actual striker? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see him bag 20 goals, I'm just nowhere near as convinced as others on here with the evidence of my own eyes when he has played as a striker. Forget how bad he was for us in the premier league and imagine if this like Afobe was his first season and we'd spunked £12million on him, would you be happy with the return? In fairness to both Saido & Afobe the tactics obviously haven't helped either, fingers crossed a new boss will get more of a tune out of both of them.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 8, 2019 13:47:58 GMT
15 starts. How many of them as an actual striker? Don't get me wrong I'd love to see him bag 20 goals, I'm just nowhere near as convinced as others on here with the evidence of my own eyes when he has played as a striker. Forget how bad he was for us in the premier league and imagine if this like Afobe was his first season and we'd spunked £12million on him, would you be happy with the return? In fairness to both Saido & Afobe the tactics obviously haven't helped either, fingers crossed a new boss will get more of a tune out of both of them. I'd be more impressed than I am with Afobe, who's offered a lot less in terms of all round performances. I don't know if he'd grab 20 goals but he's looked a better lone striker than Afobe. It's up to him to keep that going and not flatline again.
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Berahino
Jan 8, 2019 13:50:37 GMT
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 8, 2019 13:50:37 GMT
He has been arguably our best player this season. Needs to be starting every game. Not close to our best player, Jack, Eric, Allen and Ince have all done more and Etebo withblimited opportunities. He is not quick enough and isn’t a particularly good finisher. Afobe’s pace offers more if we could get our act together and provide him with service. The mystery with Berahino of all our signing flops is where we saw him playing? Surely never as a lone striker? Imbula, Wimmer, Afobe all had clear roles but Berahino never did
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Jan 8, 2019 15:21:10 GMT
He has been arguably our best player this season. Needs to be starting every game. He is not quick enough and isn’t a particularly good finisher. Afobe’s pace offers more if we could get our act together and provide him with service. The mystery with Berahino of all our signing flops is where we saw him playing? Surely never as a lone striker? Imbula, Wimmer, Afobe all had clear roles but Berahino never did As an Albion fan (who has seen more of him playing than the long suffering Oatcakes) I agree with this assessment. You can add a list of WBA coaches who have failed to unlock the potential he showed as a 19 year old.
He is not a winger. He is not a lone striker. He lacks real pace, although he can move quite dynamically (when he can be arsed). His heading is poor, although if he is presented with enough chances he will eventually score one - as shown by his last goal. Played in midfield he lacks the vision to find a killer pass, does not track runners and lacks the technique to tackle. So, if your new man gets him firing (although in what role would be a puzzle), I for one will be impressed.
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Berahino
Jan 8, 2019 15:37:22 GMT
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Post by shangamuzo on Jan 8, 2019 15:37:22 GMT
If he's worth 60 grand a week wages. I'm a pregnant fairy.
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Post by ibby on Jan 8, 2019 15:38:17 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 8, 2019 15:55:58 GMT
Credit where it is due, he has got his head down and is working hard for the team. He is a lot more skillful than Afobe (or Diouf and Crouch) with the ball.
That said, he is still not scoring regularly. That is in part due to some wayward shooting at times, but more often that he does not get the service and is forced to go looking for the ball and gets out of position.
The only player who remotely looks like giving him any service is Etebo. McClean's service is rubbish. Ince is so one-footed defenders can read him and prevent him making passes a lot of the time, and he often ends up heading backwards towards our own goal. Woods only made through passes in his first couple of games, but Rowett has stopped him doing that, and now Woods is as guilty as anyone of sideways, keep the ball, negativity. Allen gets all over the place, including popping up to score, and is an excellent player to play wall passes with, and provides an outlet to his team mates by getting into space, but is not a creative player
So until we start giving Berahino the service he needs, nothing much will change. There is no doubt there is a very good player in there, but as with Bojan, we need a manager to find a system that suits them. I think both those players would probably be excellent playing for Leeds, Norwich, or West Brom.
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 8, 2019 16:04:51 GMT
He is not quick enough and isn’t a particularly good finisher. Afobe’s pace offers more if we could get our act together and provide him with service. The mystery with Berahino of all our signing flops is where we saw him playing? Surely never as a lone striker? Imbula, Wimmer, Afobe all had clear roles but Berahino never did As an Albion fan (who has seen more of him playing than the long suffering Oatcakes) I agree with this assessment. You can add a list of WBA coaches who have failed to unlock the potential he showed as a 19 year old.
He is not a winger. He is not a lone striker. He lacks real pace, although he can move quite dynamically (when he can be arsed). His heading is poor, although if he is presented with enough chances he will eventually score one - as shown by his last goal. Played in midfield he lacks the vision to find a killer pass, does not track runners and lacks the technique to tackle. So, if your new man gets him firing (although in what role would be a puzzle), I for one will be impressed.
Seems like it takes a baggies fan to sum him up perfectly...absolutely spot on in every aspect grassy. And we still have a few posters on here who think he will hit 20 goals....christ on a bike!
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Jan 8, 2019 16:35:33 GMT
So until we start giving Berahino the service he needs, nothing much will change. There is no doubt there is a very good player in there, but as with Bojan, we need a manager to find a system that suits them. I think both those players would probably be excellent playing for Leeds, Norwich, or West Brom. mrcoke, I think your chances of playing for WBAFC are higher than SB's.
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