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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 12:14:59 GMT
And why would 442 be any more effective than what we're playing? Playing 1 up top isn't in and of itself a defensive set-up whatsoever (in fact, most of the top teams seem to be fine with it), nor is 442 a particularly attacking one. Of the 12 teams that have scored more than us this season, only 2 teams play with two up top - Sheffield Utd and Birmingham - and only Brum play 442. Whilst I appreciate that Birmingham are playing it effectively, they have played some of the most dull, uninspiring, make-me-want-to-gouge-my-eyes-out football I have seen this season. Just because the majority of the teams in this league have looked pisspoor (and we can include ourselves in that) is not a reason to say that we should 'always play 442 in this division'. The sacrifice of a CM (and therefore cover for our CBs), conceding possession to the opposition who will have more bodies in that midfield, coupled with the fact that we just don't have the wingers or full backs that can whip in decent crosses, remotely justifies playing 442 so we can have another striker on the pitch. And what do you think the CM pairing would be from our current squad that could make it work? Allen and Clucas looked terrible at it against Birmingham last week. Can Woods get forward and play the right balls through? He's looked like he gets a nosebleed every time he gets past the halfway line in most games. It just doesn't make sense mate. 352 is a much better solution if you're desperate to have two up front (although we're back to the old 'who would play wing back?' scenario). Clucas and Bauer would be good fits for wing backs. Do you think? I could see that Bauer would do a decent job at it, but is about as likely to feature for Rowett as June Whitfield is, and I'm a bit unconvinced by Clucas to be honest. Has he played as LWB before? I know he's played most of his career down the left but not sure if he's played there without someone behind him (or in front of him when playing LB). He's more likely to play Martina and McClean as wing-backs before Bauer or Clucas though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 12:17:47 GMT
Oh absolutely mate. You're not the only person that has advocated for 442 (this season or last) but I've just not found a particularly good reason to do it other than to 'try something different'. The only way I could see it remotely working for the squad we have is if the midfield 4 were a diamond (Woods at the base, Clucas/Etebo left, Allen right, Ince at the top) but that formation asks a LOT from the full-backs both in attack and defence. Whether we've got those on our squad I'm not sure. I totally agree with you that what we're currently doing isn't working, but I think it's less to do with the formation itself and more with how we are going about it and the personnel involved. I still think 4231 is best considering who we have in our squad but Rowett seems to have ruled out our only natural #10. Bera made a good fist of it but it's not a natural position for him; same goes for Allen. Ince is probably the best out of those in favour but we'd need to bring in another wide player (which we need to do anyway imho) to replace him there. Despite the transfer business last summer we're still dealing with a very imbalanced squad. Absolutely. I’d play Ince inside with Afobe probably. I’m not sure we have the quality for 4231. It leaves you open on the wings and we already have difficulty with our wide players not tracking back. Especially McLean. We don’t have the ability to go forward with any pace and you could see it working against us. There are problems throughout the team when you think about it. Take Jack and maybe Ince out and we don’t have a lot of quality in there. I think we can all agree that whatever system we play there's going to be deficiencies mate.
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Post by ange1 on Dec 31, 2018 13:43:35 GMT
Pretzel, the show is online as a pod as normal. You can also download from Mixcloud or Mxlr. Thanks for listening and for your support this year.
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Post by pretzel on Dec 31, 2018 15:42:12 GMT
Pretzel, the show is online as a pod as normal. You can also download from Mixcloud or Mxlr. Thanks for listening and for your support this year. I can download from Mixlr and Mixcloud? That's great, can you tell me how to do it as I've only ever been able to 'listen again' using those two sites? Thanks in advance. *Edit* In the last hour Jellycast has finally come back online so I've finally been able to get the last 3 episodes onto my phone. Any help in downloading from Mixlr and Mixcloud would still be gratefully accepted though for the next time Jellycast screws up
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Post by ange1 on Dec 31, 2018 16:16:37 GMT
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Post by pretzel on Dec 31, 2018 16:34:33 GMT
Fantastic thank you, just what I was looking for Happy New Year to you and the team Ange, lets hope it's a good one, without any fear.
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Post by ange1 on Dec 31, 2018 16:50:30 GMT
My pleasure Pretzel, but I fear you are becoming as deluded as Russ. Happy New Year everyone!
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