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Post by FrankButcher on Dec 29, 2018 22:11:53 GMT
Did you put Lampard forward as a candidate before he joined Derby completely out of the blue just out of interest? I said at the time he was better appointment tha. Rowett to the normal abuse and that derby had the best of the deal as we were paying for see the posts . My view was we either went elite Big Sam or imaginative Rowett was a hopeless compromise with no pedigree to do the job required .) see the thread 3 year contract I wish we would of gone elite and got allardyce that would of made a statement of intent to the division that we weren't messing around! Highly unlikely he'd of come due to potentially getting hired by a struggling Premier League club but that's highly unlikely now with us being so close to the transfer window I wonder if we could tempt him here for one last project similar to what he did with West ham 🤔 possibility is low but you don't know until you try!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 29, 2018 22:20:51 GMT
I said at the time he was better appointment tha. Rowett to the normal abuse and that derby had the best of the deal as we were paying for see the posts . My view was we either went elite Big Sam or imaginative Rowett was a hopeless compromise with no pedigree to do the job required .) see the thread 3 year contract I wish we would of gone elite and got allardyce that would of made a statement of intent to the division that we weren't messing around! Highly unlikely he'd of come due to potentially getting hired by a struggling Premier League club but that's highly unlikely now with us being so close to the transfer window I wonder if we could tempt him here for one last project similar to what he did with West ham 🤔 possibility is low but you don't know until you try! Director of football seat on the board etc etc all things we are free to do Just requires imagination
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Post by blackpoolred on Dec 29, 2018 22:21:08 GMT
Derby fans must be laughing their heads off, we take their manager and they end up better off! Frank is not doing badly for his first job is he? He’s been a winner all his life, have you seen that video of Harry Redknapp saying that Lampard would go right to the very top! Frank was a 17 year old kid at the time Could you see us scoring 4 at a top of the table side and coming back to win from 3-2 down with five minutes to go? We have come back from 2 goals down this season(on more than 1 occasion) and we almost came back from 3-0 down in one game, but for missing a penalty. We also beat Norwich away from home and unlike Rowett, Lampard did not inherit an utter shambles of a club/squad. We also beat Derby in our recent 11 game unbeaten run. We have by far the better man.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 29, 2018 23:03:08 GMT
Derby fans must be laughing their heads off, we take their manager and they end up better off! Frank is not doing badly for his first job is he? He’s been a winner all his life, have you seen that video of Harry Redknapp saying that Lampard would go right to the very top! Frank was a 17 year old kid at the time Could you see us scoring 4 at a top of the table side and coming back to win from 3-2 down with five minutes to go? We have come back from 2 goals down this season(on more than 1 occasion) and we almost came back from 3-0 down in one game, but for missing a penalty. We also beat Norwich away from home and unlike Rowett, Lampard did not inherit an utter shambles of a club/squad. We also beat Derby in our recent 11 game unbeaten run. We have by far the better man. Absolute bollocks
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Post by rawli on Dec 29, 2018 23:06:00 GMT
I somehow don't think that Stoke was ever on Frank's list of "where should I start my managerial career" options So all this "we should have gone for" becomes irrelevant Biggest budget in the division. Why wouldn't we have been on his list.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 29, 2018 23:20:28 GMT
The frightening thing is we could have had him if the owners had anything about them
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Post by Davef on Dec 29, 2018 23:28:04 GMT
Derby fans must be laughing their heads off, we take their manager and they end up better off! Frank is not doing badly for his first job is he? He’s been a winner all his life, have you seen that video of Harry Redknapp saying that Lampard would go right to the very top! Frank was a 17 year old kid at the time Could you see us scoring 4 at a top of the table side and coming back to win from 3-2 down with five minutes to go? We have come back from 2 goals down this season(on more than 1 occasion) and we almost came back from 3-0 down in one game, but for missing a penalty. We also beat Norwich away from home and unlike Rowett, Lampard did not inherit an utter shambles of a club/squad. We also beat Derby in our recent 11 game unbeaten run. We have by far the better man. Any opinion on why we are so wank that we go two goals (or more) down in the first place?
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Post by Championship Potter on Dec 30, 2018 0:12:16 GMT
Wouldn't mind us going for Neville or some other young progressive manager until the end of the season. We're 7 points off the play offs and in no danger of relegation so if there's a time to gamble on an unproven manager it's probably now. Last thing we need is another tactical dinosaur that doesn't have a clue how to get this squad playing.
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Post by marcofstoke on Dec 30, 2018 0:39:14 GMT
I somehow don't think that Stoke was ever on Frank's list of "where should I start my managerial career" options So all this "we should have gone for" becomes irrelevant And Derby were on his list? When he finished playing he thought to himself “I’d love to manage Derby” He had to be approached, Derby were brave, we weren’t
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Post by jzime on Dec 30, 2018 0:46:29 GMT
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Lampard is turning out to be a decent prospect, but a relegated club with a bit of money to spend and ambitions of going straight back up shouldn't actually be targeting somebody who's never managed before.
The club should have moved for somebody who plays more expansive football, yes. But not Lampard. I would have very much liked to see Graham Potter here, to be honest. Given they're only two points behind us despite having barely spent anything, I assume he'd have done a decent job.
But if we're playing these games of "I wish we'd have done x or y", then I wish we'd have sacked Hughes months before we did and sorted out a deal for any number of managers who could have kept out broadly half-decent PL squad in the league.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 0:50:26 GMT
We haven’t looked like scoring 4 in the last 3 games against really piss poor opposition. Millwall we created fuck all, Birmingham was a terrible display but today is worse than anything I’ve seen at Stoke for 20 years! Some performances in our 97-98 relegation season weren't as bad as that
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Post by marcofstoke on Dec 30, 2018 0:50:42 GMT
Derby fans must be laughing their heads off, we take their manager and they end up better off! Frank is not doing badly for his first job is he? He’s been a winner all his life, have you seen that video of Harry Redknapp saying that Lampard would go right to the very top! Frank was a 17 year old kid at the time Could you see us scoring 4 at a top of the table side and coming back to win from 3-2 down with five minutes to go? We have come back from 2 goals down this season(on more than 1 occasion) and we almost came back from 3-0 down in one game, but for missing a penalty. We also beat Norwich away from home and unlike Rowett, Lampard did not inherit an utter shambles of a club/squad. We also beat Derby in our recent 11 game unbeaten run. We have by far the better man. What utter rubbish! Derby were losing when the floodlights failed with 5 minutes to go They ended up winning Could we do that? Not a chance!
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 30, 2018 0:57:05 GMT
I must admit I thought he was the right man, now I can't wait to see him gone! If anyone thought Pulis had a negative approach, this man is ten times worse!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 30, 2018 0:59:12 GMT
He's taken a top six side and errrm, kept them top six, I'll take more notice of him if he has them winning the league.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 30, 2018 1:08:13 GMT
He's taken a top six side and errrm, kept them top six, I'll take more notice of him if he has them winning the league. Where as, Rowett has taken a side who were previously in the Premier league and errrm.....got them nowhere near the top six, with arguably the biggest transfer budget in the division!!!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 30, 2018 1:12:03 GMT
He's taken a top six side and errrm, kept them top six, I'll take more notice of him if he has them winning the league. Where as, Rowett has taken a side who were previously in the Premier league and errrm.....got them nowhere near the top six, with arguably the biggest transfer budget in the division!!! Conveniently over looking the fact that we had a garbage squad, and once it went down had gapping holes all over the place, no wingers for example.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 1:24:58 GMT
Where as, Rowett has taken a side who were previously in the Premier league and errrm.....got them nowhere near the top six, with arguably the biggest transfer budget in the division!!! Conveniently over looking the fact that we had a garbage squad, and once it went down had gapping holes all over the place, no wingers for example. Hang on a minute. There's not a manager in this division who would say no to having Butland, Allen, Shawcross, Pieters, Bojan, BMI and Bauer in there squad. He was then backed handsomely. There are no excuses for today, or Birmingham or Milwall
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 30, 2018 1:25:56 GMT
Where as, Rowett has taken a side who were previously in the Premier league and errrm.....got them nowhere near the top six, with arguably the biggest transfer budget in the division!!! Conveniently over looking the fact that we had a garbage squad, and once it went down had gapping holes all over the place, no wingers for example. It's not convenient at all Boz, it's all about what the manager does!!! He had the summer to get the defence sorted.....we ended up with two desperate loans, one of which is dog shit!!! As I've said in another post, West Brom were as bad, if not worse than us under Pardew.....Darren Moore took over, and was just to late for them to stay up.... However, he's kept it going this season, and they've banged in goals for fun in some games!!!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 30, 2018 1:44:02 GMT
Conveniently over looking the fact that we had a garbage squad, and once it went down had gapping holes all over the place, no wingers for example. Hang on a minute. There's not a manager in this division who would say no to having Butland, Allen, Shawcross, Pieters, Bojan, BMI and Bauer in there squad. He was then backed handsomely. There are no excuses for today, or Birmingham or Milwall No there isn't, and there's not a manager in this league that after a few games wouldn't realise half of them aren't up to it. I'm not making excuses for today, I'm not saying Rowett is the be all and end all, I'm saying that whoever came in needs a full season.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Dec 30, 2018 2:10:41 GMT
When we played Derby, Lampard stood on the sideline like a statue the entire 90’ and said nothing
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 30, 2018 8:03:20 GMT
We haven’t looked like scoring 4 in the last 3 games years against really piss poor any opposition. Millwall we created fuck all, Birmingham was a terrible display but today is worse than anything I’ve seen at Stoke for 20 years! Thought I’d just edit that a bit if that’s ok.
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 30, 2018 11:17:13 GMT
I'm way more impressed with Gerrards start at Rangers...... not sure he's forgiven us for his last game for Liverpool yet though Give him the Dundee job, then maybe we could talk. Rangers seriously giving Celtic a run for the title for the first time in many years is an achievement not to be sniffed at! He hasn't had massive money but he has been clever with his contacts, who knows if he could manage in England but I'd like to see him given the chance not necessarily with us but if it was I wouldn't complain.
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Post by marcofstoke on Dec 30, 2018 14:37:51 GMT
When we played Derby, Lampard stood on the sideline like a statue the entire 90’ and said nothing And? His team is in a play-off position, ours is not!
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 30, 2018 14:48:48 GMT
Did you put Lampard forward as a candidate before he joined Derby completely out of the blue just out of interest? Some of us did I can't be arsed with any of the same old names, get & be brave for once. We've not got 'Premier League survival at all costs' to worry about now so get & pick some new, up & comer. Just throwing a name out there, why not go for someone like Frank Lampard? He wants to get into management, he knows all about the English game, he's a huge name who could attract good players. Someone is going to take a chance on him & it could well pay off, so why not let it be us?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 15:53:17 GMT
Did you put Lampard forward as a candidate before he joined Derby completely out of the blue just out of interest? Some of us did I can't be arsed with any of the same old names, get & be brave for once. We've not got 'Premier League survival at all costs' to worry about now so get & pick some new, up & comer. Just throwing a name out there, why not go for someone like Frank Lampard? He wants to get into management, he knows all about the English game, he's a huge name who could attract good players. Someone is going to take a chance on him & it could well pay off, so why not let it be us? Fair play mate. Time will tell if he’s as great as some are making him out to be, the Championship is a long unforgiving season....
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Post by stokeson on Dec 30, 2018 15:58:33 GMT
Unbelivable tripe on here again.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 30, 2018 16:12:53 GMT
Derby fans must be laughing their heads off, we take their manager and they end up better off! Frank is not doing badly for his first job is he? He’s been a winner all his life, have you seen that video of Harry Redknapp saying that Lampard would go right to the very top! Frank was a 17 year old kid at the time Could you see us scoring 4 at a top of the table side and coming back to win from 3-2 down with five minutes to go? We have come back from 2 goals down this season(on more than 1 occasion) and we almost came back from 3-0 down in one game So what you’re saying is we drew a few games and narrowly lost one. We’ve got ourselves the new Pep.
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Post by Bagwash on Dec 30, 2018 17:15:52 GMT
I didn't rate Lambert but I am positive we would have been in a better position if he was in charge.Or Lampard....or Bruce.. or Big Sam.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 30, 2018 17:59:15 GMT
Derby fans must be laughing their heads off, we take their manager and they end up better off! Frank is not doing badly for his first job is he? He’s been a winner all his life, have you seen that video of Harry Redknapp saying that Lampard would go right to the very top! Frank was a 17 year old kid at the time Could you see us scoring 4 at a top of the table side and coming back to win from 3-2 down with five minutes to go? I said the same about Kelly Brook 😎
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Post by chinesedave on Dec 31, 2018 2:19:25 GMT
How about we think outside the box for new management. Go young and successful,I'm thinking Eden Hazard, Marcus Rashford or Danny Ingsb as player manager???
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