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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 21:17:52 GMT
How refreshing is it to hear a manager say this?
Swansea City manager Graham Potter:
"I take full responsibility for the first half, we weren't able to be ourselves and it was an uncomfortable 45 minutes.
"I had an idea of how we wanted to play, but it didn't work. I am disappointed with myself and I apologise to the players and to the supporters for the first half.
"We wanted to have width with Wayne Routledge and Dan James as we thought Wigan would block the centre of the pitch.
"But the response in the second half was fantastic and our supporters throughout the game were incredible. They got behind us in an amazing way and we could even have nicked all three points."
Just shows a coach with a brain, tries something a bit different, doesn't work, apologises, praises the people around him and no doubt won't be scared to try something different again.
They don't know how lucky they are. He applied twice for our job didn't he? (allegedly)
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Dec 29, 2018 21:42:16 GMT
Refreshing ? maybe....... or maybe a very articulate set of excuses
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Post by Jug Bank Stokie on Dec 29, 2018 21:42:40 GMT
2 points worse off than us, they must be shite
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 29, 2018 21:53:59 GMT
If potter had been given the same backing as rowett they would be top 6 no doubt.
Sold their best players, spent nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 21:57:21 GMT
Refreshing ? maybe....... or maybe a very articulate set of excuses Show me the excuses he offered. |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 29, 2018 22:08:54 GMT
I had doubts over Potter but it's clear he has something about him. Yet another poor decision by 'the football people' who run our club. The bloke was desperate to come here but we end up with someone more loathsome than Piers Morgan.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 22:26:24 GMT
I had doubts over Potter but it's clear he has something about him. Yet another poor decision by 'the football people' who run our club. The bloke was desperate to come here but we end up with someone more loathsome than Piers Morgan. Take a look at this Pugs, he's very open about his style. He's a very clever bloke, as is the owner. Video two is very in line with where we were as a club post relegation
For me, it's 100% how to build a football club from the top down.
If I was a chairman of a top 6 club in the PL, i'd appoint him tomorrow.
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Post by RAF on Dec 29, 2018 22:29:38 GMT
Refreshing ? maybe....... or maybe a very articulate set of excuses Well it's better than taking the piss out of your fans at the very least. H |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 29, 2018 22:29:57 GMT
Refreshing ? maybe....... or maybe a very articulate set of excuses I don’t see how they’re excuses when he’s taking full responsibility and absolving the players? |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 29, 2018 22:32:19 GMT
I had doubts over Potter but it's clear he has something about him. Yet another poor decision by 'the football people' who run our club. The bloke was desperate to come here but we end up with someone more loathsome than Piers Morgan. Take a look at this Pugs, he's very open about his style. He's a very clever bloke, as is the owner. Video two is very in line with where we were as a club post relegation
For me, it's 100% how to build a football club from the top down.
If I was a chairman of a top 6 club in the PL, i'd appoint him tomorrow.
He's very impressive. My doubts were coming from a pub league to the Championship. Clearly he would have been an excellent appointment. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 22:33:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 22:38:50 GMT
His words would be totally different if he was our manager and we were in the same position as his Swansea team are at the minute.
Why?
Because he would be getting booed, his team would be getting booed and he would be getting loads of shit on here as well.
I'm not saying that he isn't a better manager than Rowett, and the things he's said there are a lot better than the absolute shit our manager has come out with today but, he would be under more pressure here and the situation would/may be totally different if he was underperforming (in a lot of supporters eyes) as our manager.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 29, 2018 22:40:56 GMT
His words would be totally different if he was our manager and we were in the same position as his Swansea team are at the minute. Why? Because he would be getting booed, his team would be getting booed and he would be getting loads of shit on here as well. I'm not saying that he isn't a better manager than Rowett, and the things he's said there are a lot better than the absolute shit our manager has come out with today but, he would be under more pressure here and the situation would/may be totally different if he was underperforming (in a lot of supporters eyes) as our manager. It would rather depend on whether he’d had to sell his best players while spending virtually nothing or been able to keep most of his best players and spend £40m on top of that wouldn’t it? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 22:47:27 GMT
His words would be totally different if he was our manager and we were in the same position as his Swansea team are at the minute. Why? Because he would be getting booed, his team would be getting booed and he would be getting loads of shit on here as well. I'm not saying that he isn't a better manager than Rowett, and the things he's said there are a lot better than the absolute shit our manager has come out with today but, he would be under more pressure here and the situation would/may be totally different if he was underperforming (in a lot of supporters eyes) as our manager. It would rather depend on whether he’d had to sell his best players while spending virtually nothing or been able to keep most of his best players and spend £40m on top of that wouldn’t it? It wouldn't make a scrap of difference to your average football fan. Take a look at that Swansea forum for instance. Our home crowd have been on a real downer for a couple of years now and the atmosphere at home games wouldn't be any different regardless of who was manager if we were in the same position as what Swansea are right now. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 29, 2018 22:49:32 GMT
It would rather depend on whether he’d had to sell his best players while spending virtually nothing or been able to keep most of his best players and spend £40m on top of that wouldn’t it? It wouldn't make a scrap of difference to your average football fan. Take a look at that Swansea forum for instance. Our home crowd have been on a real downer for a couple of years now and the atmosphere at home games wouldn't be any different regardless of who was manager if we were in the same position as what Swansea are right now. I think anyone fair minded would appreciate the difference. It’s an apples and oranges job. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 22:54:26 GMT
His words would be totally different if he was our manager and we were in the same position as his Swansea team are at the minute. Why? Because he would be getting booed, his team would be getting booed and he would be getting loads of shit on here as well. I'm not saying that he isn't a better manager than Rowett, and the things he's said there are a lot better than the absolute shit our manager has come out with today but, he would be under more pressure here and the situation would/may be totally different if he was underperforming (in a lot of supporters eyes) as our manager. 6 shots on target against Wigan where he admitted he messed up the first half and apologised. He's in a negative net spend to the tune of 40 odd million to boot.
Compare that to our 0 shots on target at home to Wigan, where to be fair, Rowett admitted responsibility and asked the fans to boo him. I'll give him that. More worryingly, he's asking the fans to do the same going into January 2019, some 4/5 months and 21 games later...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 22:54:52 GMT
It wouldn't make a scrap of difference to your average football fan. Take a look at that Swansea forum for instance. Our home crowd have been on a real downer for a couple of years now and the atmosphere at home games wouldn't be any different regardless of who was manager if we were in the same position as what Swansea are right now. I think anyone fair minded would appreciate the difference. It’s an apples and oranges job. Not many modern fans are fair minded though it seems. It's very much the minority that are cutting Potter any slack on the above link, rightly or wrongly...... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 29, 2018 22:56:35 GMT
I think anyone fair minded would appreciate the difference. It’s an apples and oranges job. Not many modern fans are fair minded though it seems. It's very much the minority that are cutting Potter any slack on the above link, rightly or wrongly...... They watch it week in, week out, so they’ll know better than us, but Potter didn’t have the advantages Rowett’s had. |
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 29, 2018 23:02:27 GMT
Look at the decimated squad of Swansea against the strength of the Stoke squad and try to argue that Rowett is a better coach than Potter.
Potter is in a different league to Rowett as a coach and he would have cost a fraction of Rowett.
Many on here could see that but sadly the dinosaurs that run the club couldn't.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 23:04:53 GMT
Look at the decimated squad of Swansea against the strength of the Stoke squad and try to argue that Rowett is a better coach than Potter. Potter is in a different league to Rowett as a coach and he would have cost a fraction of Rowett. Many on here could see that but sadly the dinosaurs that run the club couldn't. Tell the Swansea fans on their forum not us, a lot seem to disagree and think he's possibly out of his depth. Personally I like the bloke and hope he does well...... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 23:07:23 GMT
Not many modern fans are fair minded though it seems. It's very much the minority that are cutting Potter any slack on the above link, rightly or wrongly...... They watch it week in, week out, so they’ll know better than us, but Potter didn’t have the advantages Rowett’s had. He actually strikes me as the kind of manager that will do better having to coach and develop players rather than spend big money..... |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 29, 2018 23:09:31 GMT
He won't make it as a top manager.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 29, 2018 23:15:09 GMT
He won't make it as a top manager. I disagree, we'll continue the argument in 5 years time, bookmark it  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 23:17:27 GMT
It wouldn't make a scrap of difference to your average football fan. Take a look at that Swansea forum for instance. Our home crowd have been on a real downer for a couple of years now and the atmosphere at home games wouldn't be any different regardless of who was manager if we were in the same position as what Swansea are right now. I think anyone fair minded would appreciate the difference. It’s an apples and oranges job. How many football fans do you know who are fair minded? You only have to read this forum to know that they're in the minority. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 29, 2018 23:17:37 GMT
They watch it week in, week out, so they’ll know better than us, but Potter didn’t have the advantages Rowett’s had. He actually strikes me as the kind of manager that will do better having to coach and develop players rather than spend big money..... Yeah, think there’s a touch of the Brendans about him. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 23:22:25 GMT
His words would be totally different if he was our manager and we were in the same position as his Swansea team are at the minute. Why? Because he would be getting booed, his team would be getting booed and he would be getting loads of shit on here as well. I'm not saying that he isn't a better manager than Rowett, and the things he's said there are a lot better than the absolute shit our manager has come out with today but, he would be under more pressure here and the situation would/may be totally different if he was underperforming (in a lot of supporters eyes) as our manager. 6 shots on target against Wigan where he admitted he messed up the first half and apologised. He's in a negative net spend to the tune of 40 odd million to boot.
Compare that to our 0 shots on target at home to Wigan, where to be fair, Rowett admitted responsibility and asked the fans to boo him. I'll give him that. More worryingly, he's asking the fans to do the same going into January 2019, some 4/5 months and 21 games later...
Its just manager spiel though isn't it? Some come out and blame the players and others come out and blame themselves, does he really mean it? That's the big question, they're just words. Don't get me wrong, saying what he's said because he's feeling the pressure is a lot better than hearing what our manager has come out with today, but it doesn't really mean anything unless he backs it up by improving their results, because you can bet your bottom dollar that the majority of Swansea fans will think he's underperforming just like our fans would be thinking if he had us where they are right now. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 29, 2018 23:27:04 GMT
Refreshing ? maybe....... or maybe a very articulate set of excuses There's not a single excuse to be inferred there, he openly admits he tried a tactic, explained it, and told them that it didn't work, and accepted that it was his fault. Accepting blame and apologising for it is literally the opposite of making an excuse. Jesus, can we make an IQ test mandatory on this site, please? |
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Post by cotswoldstokie on Dec 30, 2018 0:22:57 GMT
2 points worse off than us, they must be shite And have spent a fraction on their players compared to ours |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 30, 2018 0:32:31 GMT
Putting the whole Rowett thing aside to make it easier, is it okay that a manager fucks up as long as he keeps the gullible fans happy by admitting it in public?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 0:42:46 GMT
Rowett has said pretty much exactly the same after several games. He said it was his fault after Birmingham.
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