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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 26, 2018 17:23:28 GMT
Did anyone else feel we went to shit as soon as he left the field. Although he may have lost some early form,we certainly missed him after he left the pitch. Maybe he is a bit jaded but personally I would have taken Clucas off!
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Post by SCFC1863 on Dec 26, 2018 17:24:14 GMT
I’m not a hater but I thought we were shit with him on.
Not sure if it was him coming off making it worse or just poor substitutions by the Manager
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 17:26:51 GMT
He was at fault for the first goal and majority of his game was holding on to the ball too long or doing one of those floaty across field passes that puts the receiver under pressure.
He’s not the issue but we were shit with him on and shit with him off.
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Post by werrington on Dec 26, 2018 17:28:58 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football
He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him
See it for what it is ffs
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Post by ohbottom on Dec 26, 2018 17:30:19 GMT
Did anyone else feel we went to shit as soon as he left the field. Although he may have lost some early form,we certainly missed him after he left the pitch. Maybe he is a bit jaded but personally I would have taken Clucas off! It wasn't a coincidence. As I've said elsewhere, GR replaced Woods with literally nobody and surprise surprise, we lost any MF control we'd had up to that point. Our bench was shocking, but the use of the bench made it a liability. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 26, 2018 17:30:34 GMT
We were still just about in the game before those subs, shit as we were. We didn’t get anywhere near them after them. Utterly moronic again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 17:30:44 GMT
Today wasn't his worst game but he really hasn't played well for weeks
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 26, 2018 17:31:55 GMT
I thought we got even worse when Crouch and Afobe came on
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 26, 2018 17:32:25 GMT
He was having a mare, and I don't blame Rowett for removing him when we started losing.
The inference of the OP is correct though, we were worse with no Woods, than a poor Woods.
Ince was the only Rowett signing that equitted himself today, the rest were dross. Plus Shawcross and Crouch need putting out to graze.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 26, 2018 17:32:56 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him See it for what it is ffs He was also going mad at those in front when he played a sideways ball. |
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Post by ohbottom on Dec 26, 2018 17:33:17 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him See it for what it is ffs Agreed mate. Not his best game today, obviously, but he was always available, and always at least tried to do something with the ball. When he went off we were fucked |
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 26, 2018 17:33:29 GMT
The problem wasn't in taking Woods off, it was changing the formation to two up top.
We were being overrun in midfield as it was, so he decided to put less men there.
Thought Etebo should have come on.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 26, 2018 17:34:03 GMT
We were still just about in the game before those subs, shit as we were. We didn’t get anywhere near them after them. Utterly moronic again. We've got better options on the bench than bojan apparently. The mind really does boggle |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 26, 2018 17:34:22 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him See it for what it is ffs Agree with that mate BUT he’s far far too deep in a team where the full backs are woeful.If we had marauding full backs who got forward with pace and could cross a ball he’d have options |
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Post by ohbottom on Dec 26, 2018 17:34:44 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him See it for what it is ffs He was also going mad at those in front when he played a sideways ball. Because they weren't giving him a forward option. Or is that what you were saying? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 17:34:59 GMT
Did anyone else feel we went to shit as soon as he left the field. Although he may have lost some early form,we certainly missed him after he left the pitch. Maybe he is a bit jaded but personally I would have taken Clucas off! I don’t totally get where the Woods hate comes from tbh, but I also don’t think he can complain too much today at being subbed (but that goes for pretty much all of the players). I think the main reason we went to shit after his sub was more to do with going 442 and losing the midfield battle - and just hoofing it long to Crouch - as a result. Even on a bad day Woods is still a better option than most when you look at our squad. I hope that we go back to the lineup that started against Derby (with Edwards at RB instead of Martina). |
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Post by BuzzB on Dec 26, 2018 17:35:39 GMT
The right move would have been to leave him on, get McClean off and push Clucas wide, get Etebo on to run at them.
Dunner get me started on Crouch! Not Petes fault he was bought on,he doesn't pick himself but he has had it, even at this level, no mobility whatsoever.
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Post by ohbottom on Dec 26, 2018 17:39:56 GMT
The right move would have been to leave him on, get McClean off and push Clucas wide, get Etebo on to run at them. Dunner get me started on Crouch! Not Petes fault he was bought on,he doesn't pick himself but he has had it, even at this level, no mobility whatsoever. This. Totally this. I'm not a McClean knocker but he did nothing today, IMO our least effective player. HT I was shouting for Etebo on for McClean. Going 442 lost us the game. |
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 26, 2018 17:53:54 GMT
Ince was shocking. For most of the second half he strolled about centrally & did the square root of fuck all?.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 26, 2018 17:59:27 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him See it for what it is ffs My worry about Woods is not about his passing. He can't seem to compete physically and win the ball. His passing lately has been poor but I agree I think it is more to do with how the team is set up. But his positioning which is too deep, and his unwillingness to try and compete for the ball is very concerning |
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 26, 2018 18:00:02 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him See it for what it is ffs It is also because we have no movement at all or runs in behind their centerbacks creating space for midfielders looking for the ball. We have a headless chicken in no mans land not in any real position for Woods, and then Clucas wandering about also or then hilariously two feet from him to his front side. The other half of the time he can only pass to his side to McClean who can't control it or slightly behind him to Ryan or Williams to hoof. The one and only person looking for the ball always is Ince who rightly is usually covered by the opponents design to stifle us. Plus, the wonderful football killing manager we have has also benched and cast off the only other player in our entire squad in Bojan that looks for the ball at his feet besides Ince and constantly moves in triangles. It is worse than it looks because it is. By design. |
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 26, 2018 18:03:23 GMT
The right move would have been to leave him on, get McClean off and push Clucas wide, get Etebo on to run at them. Dunner get me started on Crouch! Not Petes fault he was bought on,he doesn't pick himself but he has had it, even at this level, no mobility whatsoever. He's tried the Etebo running at folks, all it does is give them the ball for counters because Etebo gets up there quick and nobody is around to help. He either needs to remove Woods sitting back with Etebo from the start and go for it or live by his chosen poison killing all semblance of a fluid midfield. |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 26, 2018 18:03:27 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him See it for what it is ffs All I see is a bloke strolling around with no urgency. IMHO he's toss. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 26, 2018 18:03:54 GMT
I thought he was OK today. One of our better players.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 26, 2018 18:03:58 GMT
Another victim of our ‘system’.
Having said that he worries me to death every time he has the ball at his feet anywhere near our box and that is , presumably, not what a defensive midfielder is employed to do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 18:05:41 GMT
Woods isn’t the problem however as others have said we had absolutely no options when he has the ball. Both him and clucas today stood with there arms out as if to say what on earth can I do. This system is appalling but the worry is the manager can’t see it
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 26, 2018 18:07:03 GMT
I rate Woods but he had a poor game today and it is wasn't a surprise he got taken off. The problem was bringing Crouch on made us far too predictable and we just played into their hands. A 442 of Clucas, Allen, Etebo, and Ince behind Berhaino and Afobe would have given us far more invention,
We got mugged - but we'll carry on getting mugged if we keep on playing like mugs.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 26, 2018 18:09:57 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him See it for what it is ffs All I see is a bloke strolling around with no urgency. IMHO he's toss. I wouldn't go that far, but I thought the initial wankfest was premature. Said on another thread, Allen makes similar mistakes, he gets slaughtered. Funnily enough, though, Allen baled out the defence a couple of times, today. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 26, 2018 18:12:12 GMT
Anybody questioning Ryan Woods tonight knows fuck all about football He was collecting balls off Butland and then had NO forward options in which to pass, only three yard passes to those around him See it for what it is ffs All I see is a bloke strolling around with no urgency. IMHO he's toss. He was poor today but... out of interest Pugs, what lack of urgency is this? Is it because he doesn't spot all those clever runs into space players make. Oh that's right, literally NO ONE in the side does!!! Or is it that he doesn't make hinself available enough? Oh that's right, he does everytime we have the ball (and is pretty much the only player in our side that actually moves to get into a position where he's free to receive it!) It's pretty hard for ANY player to show urgency when the other 9 outfield players fucking stand there marked up, showing no movement whatsoever or willingness to get into space or even past the bloody halfway line modt of the time. I appreciate it's your opinion but fuck me, try thinking it through! How can he be urgent when the rest of the side stand on the fucking halfway line with no desire to get forward or at least get free of their man? Should he just randomly punt it up pitch and chase after it on his own? Would that be urgent enough for you? A lack of urgency from a player usually indicates a lack of attacking intent fron the rest of the team. Illustrated only a few days ago when Berahino won a throw in in the final third, went to take it himself quickly to keep up the momentum...then had to wait about 20 seconds for a single player on our team to get that far up the pitch, by which time their defenders had got back and organised themselves! You can't be urgent if no one else in the side is even fucking moving!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 18:12:27 GMT
All I see is a bloke strolling around with no urgency. IMHO he's toss. I wouldn't go that far, but I thought the initial wankfest was premature. Said on another thread, Allen makes similar mistakes, he gets slaughtered. Funnily enough, though, Allen baled out the defence a couple of times, today. Yet again I thought Allen was the best stoke man by a mile. Admittedly it wasn’t hard to be in that side but he’s the one bloke that can possibly walk off knowing he gave everything |
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