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Post by jewsbury on Dec 18, 2018 14:19:13 GMT
After another good performance this weekend I think we can finally believe that we're as good as any team in the league. So instead of booing and moaning at the players and the manager can we please get on their side so they can get on ours.
talking about home games, cause the away support has been brilliant. If we want to be proud of the players we need them to be proud that we're their fans.
Just thought I'd put this out there before we get another game like Ipswich where the team put in a decent performance and win but we still leave feeling flat.
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Post by cousindupree on Dec 18, 2018 14:23:32 GMT
After another good performance this weekend I think we can finally believe that we're as good as any team in the league. So instead of booing and moaning at the players and the manager can we please get on their side so they can get on ours. talking about home games, cause the away support has been brilliant. If we want to be proud of the players we need them to be proud that we're their fans. Just thought I'd put this out there before we get another game like Ipswich where the team put in a decent performance and win but we still leave feeling flat. Ipswich was a pretty poor performance considering we were playing the bottom team at home, the attacking stats were shocking and even GR admitted he wasnt happy with the performance. There has to be a significant improvement in our home form before your call to get behind the team gets much traction |
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Post by ursemboys on Dec 18, 2018 14:32:01 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that most of or all our best performances have been away from home where the support has been brilliant ? Perhaps its the negativity at home and the knowing they are one mistake away from boo's and abuse .
Some say give us something to cheer about we'll I say it's a two way street let's give them something to play for ,we know we can get behind the team when needed ,let's just try it against millwall and see what happens
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Post by lordb on Dec 18, 2018 14:38:41 GMT
After another good performance this weekend I think we can finally believe that we're as good as any team in the league. So instead of booing and moaning at the players and the manager can we please get on their side so they can get on ours. talking about home games, cause the away support has been brilliant. If we want to be proud of the players we need them to be proud that we're their fans. Just thought I'd put this out there before we get another game like Ipswich where the team put in a decent performance and win but we still leave feeling flat. Ipswich was a pretty poor performance considering we were playing the bottom team at home, the attacking stats were shocking and even GR admitted he wasnt happy with the performance. There has to be a significant improvement in our home form before your call to get behind the team gets much traction It was an incredibly boring game however I think home fans will be aware of the good performance at Villa and will be more inclined to be positive come Saturday. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 18, 2018 14:40:25 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that most of or all our best performances have been away from home where the support has been brilliant ? Perhaps its the negativity at home and the knowing they are one mistake away from boo's and abuse . Some say give us something to cheer about we'll I say it's a two way street let's give them something to play for ,we know we can get behind the team when needed ,let's just try it against millwall and see what happens I think it's more to do with the fact that away from home sides come out and try to beat us whereas at home we tend to find we have to break sides down. That's partly why the Derby game was better than say the Ipswich game. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2018 14:56:03 GMT
Is there a set of fans in the world that enthusiastically cheers all the way through a moribund, ponderous, sloppy performance? I’d love to hear some examples?
The two things are intrinsically linked, however much people would like to dick measure about what a superlative fan they are.
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 18, 2018 15:06:59 GMT
It’s all about what the team does. Play aggressively with purpose and the fans follow suit.
Going back to the Mick Mills days the crowd went from passive to involved and up for it within the space of about ten games during the unbeaten run where we twatted a good few teams.
Then the run ended and it went flat pretty quickly.
Show some purpose on Saturday and the crowd will follow suit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 15:29:31 GMT
I think in general the fans have been fine. There will always be boos when you don't perform.
What the manager needs to understand is that the fans have put up with nearly 2 years worth of worsening dross that culminated in where we are now.
The reception the players got after the Palace home game when relegation was confirmed wouldn't really be repeated at many places in the country given what the fans were forced to watch. We were dreadful last year, took some serious beatings and the fans still stuck with them.
The current team, including the manager, need to start producing results and performances at home on a regular basis.
If they do that in line with the general performances at Villa and Reading (before the ludicrous subs) then they'll find a group of supporters eating right out of their hands; win, lose or draw.
It really is up to them.
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 18, 2018 20:35:58 GMT
The club have to use some initiative to get some of the missing fans back either with reduced ticketing, pay at the turnstiles or give them away ! The atmosphere isn’t being helped due to more red seats than fans. Also a little imagination with the pre match entertainment may help, choose some decent music to pump the crowd up ! Or Hang the DJ , Hang the DJ .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 20:49:04 GMT
No, I'm not going to get behind the team
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 18, 2018 20:58:51 GMT
Having won only 2 from our last 7 (or 3 from 10) ....I don’t think that we can finally believe that we're as good as any team in the league.
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Post by innocentbystander on Dec 18, 2018 21:04:29 GMT
No, I'm not going to get behind the team Go on ,please, let's get behind the team. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 21:38:31 GMT
I think in general the fans have been fine. There will always be boos when you don't perform. What the manager needs to understand is that the fans have put up with nearly 2 years worth of worsening dross that culminated in where we are now. The reception the players got after the Palace home game when relegation was confirmed wouldn't really be repeated at many places in the country given what the fans were forced to watch. We were dreadful last year, took some serious beatings and the fans still stuck with them. The current team, including the manager, need to start producing results and performances at home on a regular basis. If they do that in line with the general performances at Villa and Reading (before the ludicrous subs) then they'll find a group of supporters eating right out of their hands; win, lose or draw. It really is up to them. The atmosphere at home has been shocking and while I think the support at home this season have been too quick to jump on the players and managers backs, it's pretty hard to argue with what you've posted. |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 18, 2018 22:01:48 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that most of or all our best performances have been away from home where the support has been brilliant ? Perhaps its the negativity at home and the knowing they are one mistake away from boo's and abuse . Some say give us something to cheer about we'll I say it's a two way street let's give them something to play for ,we know we can get behind the team when needed ,let's just try it against millwall and see what happens I suggest they get a backbone and put in some performances, including the Manager, instead of worrying about the odd boo here and there. |
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Post by adi on Dec 19, 2018 8:25:31 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that most of or all our best performances have been away from home where the support has been brilliant ? Perhaps its the negativity at home and the knowing they are one mistake away from boo's and abuse . Some say give us something to cheer about we'll I say it's a two way street let's give them something to play for ,we know we can get behind the team when needed ,let's just try it against millwall and see what happens Im sure i remember doing that for several games last season and it was met with awful performances. Id argue that when we the fans got on pieters back he went on a great run and we scored. so maybe they need us to scold them into a performance??? |
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 19, 2018 8:44:49 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that most of or all our best performances have been away from home where the support has been brilliant ? Perhaps its the negativity at home and the knowing they are one mistake away from boo's and abuse . Some say give us something to cheer about we'll I say it's a two way street let's give them something to play for ,we know we can get behind the team when needed ,let's just try it against millwall and see what happens Spot on mate, the first boos and moaning come within a few minutes of kick off at home. It's embarrassing. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2018 8:49:19 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that most of or all our best performances have been away from home where the support has been brilliant ? Perhaps its the negativity at home and the knowing they are one mistake away from boo's and abuse . Some say give us something to cheer about we'll I say it's a two way street let's give them something to play for ,we know we can get behind the team when needed ,let's just try it against millwall and see what happens Spot on mate, the first boos and moaning come within a few minutes of kick off at home. It's embarrassing. No they don't. |
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 19, 2018 8:51:34 GMT
Spot on mate, the first boos and moaning come within a few minutes of kick off at home. It's embarrassing. No they don't. Yup they absolutely do, you can't argue with what I hear on a matchday... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2018 9:19:53 GMT
Yup they absolutely do, you can't argue with what I hear on a matchday... Which games specifically? The majority certainly don’t do it within the first 20 minutes or so unless things are going catastrophically badly. |
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 19, 2018 9:23:06 GMT
Yup they absolutely do, you can't argue with what I hear on a matchday... Which games specifically? The majority certainly don’t do it within the first 20 minutes or so unless things are going catastrophically badly. Most this season to be honest, might not be the case where you sit but it is for me. I wouldn't say booing within the first 5/10 minutes because we have given the ball away is "catastrophically bad". Like I say, might be okay where you sit but it's not the case for me, so you can't simply say "no they don't" in reply. |
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Post by ursemboys on Dec 19, 2018 9:47:56 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that most of or all our best performances have been away from home where the support has been brilliant ? Perhaps its the negativity at home and the knowing they are one mistake away from boo's and abuse . Some say give us something to cheer about we'll I say it's a two way street let's give them something to play for ,we know we can get behind the team when needed ,let's just try it against millwall and see what happens Spot on mate, the first boos and moaning come within a few minutes of kick off at home. It's embarrassing. your wrong mate it starts has soon has the line up comes out lol and if saint bojan aint playing its melt down time |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2018 10:57:56 GMT
Which games specifically? The majority certainly don’t do it within the first 20 minutes or so unless things are going catastrophically badly. Most this season to be honest, might not be the case where you sit but it is for me. I wouldn't say booing within the first 5/10 minutes because we have given the ball away is "catastrophically bad". Like I say, might be okay where you sit but it's not the case for me, so you can't simply say "no they don't" in reply. Equally, you can’t talk about a handful of idiots as if they represent the supporters at the ground in general. You’ll always get morons, you’re talking as if it’s a majority of people at the game, it clearly isn’t is it? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2018 10:58:40 GMT
Spot on mate, the first boos and moaning come within a few minutes of kick off at home. It's embarrassing. your wrong mate it starts has soon has the line up comes out lol and if saint bojan aint playing its melt down time Not at the ground it isn’t. When has that happened? Again, talk about the majority, not the bloke in the row behind who wouldn’t be happy if we won the Champions League. |
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 19, 2018 11:20:48 GMT
Most this season to be honest, might not be the case where you sit but it is for me. I wouldn't say booing within the first 5/10 minutes because we have given the ball away is "catastrophically bad". Like I say, might be okay where you sit but it's not the case for me, so you can't simply say "no they don't" in reply. Equally, you can’t talk about a handful of idiots as if they represent the supporters at the ground in general. You’ll always get morons, you’re talking as if it’s a majority of people at the game, it clearly isn’t is it? No. Again as you have before, you seem to twist things or make assumptions to suit your side of the argument. I never once said it was the majority of people. But it's quite a significant number of people, not "a handful" or "one bloke behind who wouldn't be happy unless we won the champions league". I don't even know why you're carrying on, it's literally impossible for you to hear and see what I do on a matchday. You obviously don't hear or see it yourself, that's fine. Good for you. I won't argue that you must hear it as I can't hear what you hear, be sort of stupid of me to tell you what you're hearing wouldn't it eh... |
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Post by nott1 on Dec 19, 2018 11:29:30 GMT
Let's get behind the team (agreed).........and give their arses a good kick!
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Post by stokieinaus on Dec 19, 2018 11:35:26 GMT
Only when they are attacking the south stand
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 11:45:27 GMT
No, I'm not going to get behind the team Go on ,please, let's get behind the team. No...I'm not gonna! |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 19, 2018 13:00:27 GMT
Having won only 2 from our last 7 (or 3 from 10) ....I don’t think that we can finally believe that we're as good as any team in the league. How many have we lost in those time frames? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2018 13:09:31 GMT
Equally, you can’t talk about a handful of idiots as if they represent the supporters at the ground in general. You’ll always get morons, you’re talking as if it’s a majority of people at the game, it clearly isn’t is it? No. Again as you have before, you seem to twist things or make assumptions to suit your side of the argument. I never once said it was the majority of people. But it's quite a significant number of people, not "a handful" or "one bloke behind who wouldn't be happy unless we won the champions league". I don't even know why you're carrying on, it's literally impossible for you to hear and see what I do on a matchday. You obviously don't hear or see it yourself, that's fine. Good for you. I won't argue that you must hear it as I can't hear what you hear, be sort of stupid of me to tell you what you're hearing wouldn't it eh... Sorry, that's bollocks, you're the one talking clearly in generalities as if it's everybody. You never specified it was just a few cretins around you, and that entirely changes the slant of the argument. But then you knew that... Some people are desperate to pin the team's underperformance on the fans rather than look closer to those actually responsible, particularly when they've nailed their colours firmly to a particular mast. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2018 13:10:00 GMT
Having won only 2 from our last 7 (or 3 from 10) ....I don’t think that we can finally believe that we're as good as any team in the league. How many have we lost in those time frames? Nobody draws their way to promotion. |
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