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Post by sheds1862 on Mar 7, 2019 8:28:25 GMT
Away goals rule, worst rule in the game. Yes otherwise we'd never of beaten Cardiff in the 2002 play offs !!!
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Post by kelw on Mar 7, 2019 8:29:19 GMT
Under the laws is a pen but don't agree with the ruling. Incredible comeback to be fair Is it a penalty these days if the ball strikes a defenders arm in the box regardless of intent ? If so with VAR there will be more penalties, the ball strikes arms all the time in the box, nearly always quite accedentally. Lets face it no one would do it on purpose except in the very rare circumstance where they are preventing a goal. If you make your body bigger and block the ball with an arm then is a pen under the rules
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Post by Gods on Mar 7, 2019 8:47:51 GMT
Is it a penalty these days if the ball strikes a defenders arm in the box regardless of intent ? If so with VAR there will be more penalties, the ball strikes arms all the time in the box, nearly always quite accedentally. Lets face it no one would do it on purpose except in the very rare circumstance where they are preventing a goal. If you make your body bigger and block the ball with an arm then is a pen under the rules Your body is bigger already because it has arms stuck to it on the sides and they move around when you do and help you to balance. Try jumping with your arms by your sides. It's very difficult and looks ridiculous, unless you are pogo'ing at a punk rock concert !
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 7, 2019 9:09:54 GMT
Pennos. At least there’s a definite winner and loser. Teams shouldn’t go through or out in a cup competition by drawing. Worst rule in football. Trouble is without it teams set up for 0-0 away in the first leg. An away goal really changes dynamic for me. A team that scores away goals, deserves more than a team that could get struggle to two 0-0s then win a lottery. Agreed. At least all teams know what the rule is before the competition starts. PSG clearly thought the away goal rule would work in their favour when they scored 2 at Old Trafford. More fool them for failing to take advantage of their huge amount of possession in Paris last night. The penalty, fortunate as it was, should have been simply a consolation goal for Man U as PSG should have been out of sight.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 7, 2019 9:13:58 GMT
No way in a million years would that have been a,penalty if it had been a Shit defender against teams like Stoke.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Mar 7, 2019 9:50:28 GMT
Pennos. At least there’s a definite winner and loser. Teams shouldn’t go through or out in a cup competition by drawing. Worst rule in football. Trouble is without it teams set up for 0-0 away in the first leg. An away goal really changes dynamic for me. A team that scores away goals, deserves more than a team that could get struggle to two 0-0s then win a lottery. The dynamic that it changes is what I think it shit about it. A winning team should never be 1 goal away from losing. Teams can set up at home to make it as tight as possible in the cagey first leg and have their goals count double in the more open 2nd leg. So being away in the 2nd leg is a big advantage. It can also kill off classic nights. Man City v Liverpool last year, both teams capable of beating each other 4-0. Liverpool won 3-0 at home in the first leg, Man City battered them in the 2nd leg and looked like they could have scored loads, especially after going 1-0 up and peppering the goal, but Liverpool were always 1 counter-attack away from scoring a double goal and the ref had may as well have blown his final whistle when they got it. Ruined the match. Shit rule.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 10:38:09 GMT
I like Ole, but I will never concede to this Manure love in. As for Ole failing at Cardiff, he has walked into a 300 million+ squad, which anyone with a nose on their face, could turn into a top side. Mourinho was a fool in reality. That ball before hitting that bloke's arm was going over the bar. A load of bollocks penalty, and as someone has mentioned on here, teams like us would never have got one. Spawny tweots. As I said earlier, I cannot bear the thought of them winning the final. They, and their glory hunting fans will be unbearable. There will probably be more of those horrible Chevrolet wearing so and so's out in force again. No surrender al of us shit hating fans. No surrender!! Fuck em!
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Post by spikey2972 on Mar 7, 2019 11:20:01 GMT
Jesus wept ,what it is with the man Utd love in.every time I pick up a paper, every time I put sky sports news on some prat is talking about man u f....ing Utd.you would think they are the only team in the premiership.personally I hate the shit,someone has only got to mention them and my stomach turns.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Mar 7, 2019 11:25:58 GMT
Ya think this is bad, just wait if Liverpool ever win it again.
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Post by jonparkinsgut on Mar 7, 2019 11:27:23 GMT
Jesus wept ,what it is with the man Utd love in.every time I pick up a paper, every time I put sky sports news on some prat is talking about man u f....ing Utd.you would think they are the only team in the premiership.personally I hate the shit,someone has only got to mention them and my stomach turns. You have to admit though, that was pretty special last night....
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Post by wrighter on Mar 7, 2019 11:27:28 GMT
Ya think this is bad, just wait if Liverpool ever win it again. God Forbid
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Post by tony1234 on Mar 7, 2019 11:28:13 GMT
Yes, don't usually watch this but for the top games, but was in a hotel and nothing to do. I just found it ridiculous. They were outplayed for both games, and benefitted from the most outrageous luck i've seen for many years: (though do think Buffon has been somewhat living off past glories for about 3-5 years and if i'd been Man U would have peppered him from anywhere)
And afterwards, on BT, it was nothing but how brave, brilliant etc they'd been. What tosh. They lost the first leg 2-0 and should have lost this one too.
Paris clearly have Tottenham's stomach for big moments.... seriously, i couldn't remember a team having so much luck.
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Post by tony1234 on Mar 7, 2019 11:31:08 GMT
Jesus wept ,what it is with the man Utd love in.every time I pick up a paper, every time I put sky sports news on some prat is talking about man u f....ing Utd.you would think they are the only team in the premiership.personally I hate the shit,someone has only got to mention them and my stomach turns. You have to admit though, that was pretty special last night.... There was certainly the drama! The other game which Porto won was good too, Night before was v. good. I was so tempted to put a tenner on dortmund. Ajax were terrific. CL nights are good once the group stages are done, and both this week were very good if a neutral....
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Post by rawli on Mar 7, 2019 11:41:39 GMT
Awful to admit but I wanted them to win last night. The sight of Neymar almost crying on the touchline was hilarious. All the big clubs are pretty unlikeable but to come from 2-0 down to win with so many players missing was incredible.
And to do it to a state funded club who are only focussing on the champions league is the cheery on the cake.
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Post by dastokie on Mar 7, 2019 11:41:41 GMT
There are a scum fans on this web site i remember being at wembley semi final day speaking to a couple in a pub claiming to be stokies he had a liverbird on his arm she had a red devil on hers. I would ban any talk of both teams unless we play them.
Hate both.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 7, 2019 11:50:49 GMT
Why are the sports channels and newspapers talking about Man Utd?!.. erm, they created history last night, in fairness to them.
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Post by stokie1947 on Mar 7, 2019 11:55:42 GMT
i am always glad to see an English club do well in Europe hopefully we can have 4 in the next round that will be great and if one of them can go on and win it SUPERB!!!!
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 7, 2019 12:07:15 GMT
Away goals rule, worst rule in the game. Yes otherwise we'd never of beaten Cardiff in the 2002 play offs !!! If Away goals had been around in 1972 we would never have gone to Wembley.
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Post by sheds1862 on Mar 7, 2019 12:14:53 GMT
Yes otherwise we'd never of beaten Cardiff in the 2002 play offs !!! If Away goals had been around in 1972 we would never have gone to Wembley. Guess it's swings and roundabouts really Some people hate it , others it's here so you know the rules.
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Post by Will_75 on Mar 7, 2019 12:25:42 GMT
Now I can't stand Man Utd or their glory hunting fans*, but I'd take every single one of them over that shitehawk Neymar.
*their away lot are pretty good though to be fair
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Post by shangamuzo on Mar 7, 2019 12:28:41 GMT
So how would you best resolve it ? Pennos. At least there’s a definite winner and loser. Teams shouldn’t go through or out in a cup competition by drawing. Worst rule in football. Pens is easiest but wouldn't that have given PSG an advantage-pot shots on their own soil ? You may say it's splitting hairs but we are talking Champions League football. There's a lot at stake.
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Post by tqstokie on Mar 7, 2019 12:40:00 GMT
IMHO Man Utd were not lucky, they took their two gifts very well and although controversial it was a penalty and they converted that also. Simply a matter of taking the opportunities presented to them.
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Post by barrykap on Mar 7, 2019 12:41:16 GMT
Mad(?) suggestion? - All matches from last 16 onwards should be ONE match only with extra time and penalties if needed and played at a neutral ground approx halfway between the two teams.
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Mar 7, 2019 12:42:28 GMT
Pennos. At least there’s a definite winner and loser. Teams shouldn’t go through or out in a cup competition by drawing. Worst rule in football. Pens is easiest but wouldn't that have given PSG an advantage-pot shots on their own soil ? You may say it's splitting hairs but we are talking Champions League football. There's a lot at stake. Yeah, an advantage in the same way that playing 2nd at home would be a slight advantage without away goals anyway. Just down to luck of the draw. Playing away 2nd is a bigger advantage at the moment mind, where your goals can count double in what is usually a more open game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 12:49:26 GMT
No way in a million years would that have been a,penalty if it had been a Shit defender against teams like Stoke. Some truth in that. However, if it did happen we'd all be shouting for a penalty. It was a penalty in my book all day long.
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Post by madeleystokie on Mar 7, 2019 13:24:46 GMT
Never mind whether it was a penalty or not. How cool was Rashford to take his first ever penalty in such circumstances? That Buffon dived the right way but couldn't save it was just a measure of how good a penalty it was. Funny how you appreciate other penalties being converted when we struggle ourselves
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Post by shangamuzo on Mar 7, 2019 13:26:21 GMT
Pens is easiest but wouldn't that have given PSG an advantage-pot shots on their own soil ? You may say it's splitting hairs but we are talking Champions League football. There's a lot at stake. Yeah, an advantage in the same way that playing 2nd at home would be a slight advantage without away goals anyway. Just down to luck of the draw. Playing away 2nd is a bigger advantage at the moment mind, where your goals can count double in what is usually a more open game. Take the pens on a neutral ground ? Another headache😀
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Post by shangamuzo on Mar 7, 2019 13:29:54 GMT
Never mind whether it was a penalty or not. How cool was Rashford to take his first ever penalty in such circumstances? That Buffon dived the right way but couldn't save it was just a measure of how good a penalty it was. Funny how you appreciate other penalties being converted when we struggle ourselves Buffoon for the second goal he let in, right ?
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Post by stokiewillt on Mar 7, 2019 16:41:41 GMT
MAN UTD V PSG last night was for me the wrong call. Under current law a handball has to be deliberate and one of the factors is if the arm is in an unnatural position (which it wasn’t) and whether he moved his hand towards the ball (he did the opposite). Even premier league referees disagree - peter Walton thinks pen, Mark Halsey thinks no pen. From next season however, if the arm extends outside of the natural silhouette of your body and it the ball hits your hand , a penalty will be given.
What are your thoughts on the penalty decision? Just think VAR should only be used for factual decisions, not for subjective decisions such as the penalty last night.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 7, 2019 16:56:49 GMT
That game raised the question of whether match fixing exists in the game. A lot of money to be made.
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