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Post by themistocles on Dec 9, 2018 17:16:34 GMT
What is happening here he's seemed to have vanished , anyone know?
Surely the directors won't be happy after giving him a new 5 year contract.
Can see Etebo going down the same route as he too is not Rowetts " signing".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 17:41:57 GMT
What is happening here he's seemed to have vanished , anyone know? Surely the directors won't be happy after giving him a new 5 year contract. Can see Etebo going down the same route as he too is not Rowetts " signing". Neither was Berahino, Pieters, Butland, Allen, etc, etc - and they're not doing too badly. Also, he's used Etebo a lot when available so it seems bizarre that you've jumped to that weird conclusion. I don't think he's ever been left out (like Bauer)??
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 9, 2018 18:03:01 GMT
What is happening here he's seemed to have vanished , anyone know? Surely the directors won't be happy after giving him a new 5 year contract. Can see Etebo going down the same route as he too is not Rowetts " signing". Another one to the pile of Rowetts eventual doomed never to be included again players list. He can't manage players he doesn't like, has a row with or doesn't know how to setup because of his arrogant attitude and his "my way or the highway" holier than thou ego. His ostracizing of half the dressing room versus itself and the players he's selected now versus the fans and the world will be his downfall, you can't manage people like that. Said it months ago, it's only a matter of time now until it blows up. Soon as the tougher opponents come round. Eerily familiar to what my Derby supporting friend said what would happen here.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 9, 2018 18:14:52 GMT
He turned up yesterday with the rest of the players but was then seen again going back to his car about 45 minutes later.Whether he stayed or went I’m not sure but it’s interesting he’s told to turn up as usual but I’d suspect with Edwards not being fit(or selected) he was told to turn up just in case🤔
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 18:17:49 GMT
One of the strangest episodes I can remember with a player.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 9, 2018 18:18:45 GMT
He’ll definitely be gone in Jan if Rowett is still here
A couple of weeks back we asked him if he was playing and he laughed and said “of course not”
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 9, 2018 18:27:47 GMT
He was at Stoke railway station with Bojan about 6 oclock last evening, my mates lads had some photos with them of which they were very pleased to pose with anyone who asked,they then got on a train heading down south.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 10, 2018 10:48:56 GMT
I'd rather see him sold than not seeing him in the team! What a waste the loan of Martina really is, should be Bauer with Edwards as back up. Anyway, Rowett doesn't rate him so we'd better sell in January if possible.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 10, 2018 10:54:50 GMT
What is happening here he's seemed to have vanished , anyone know? Surely the directors won't be happy after giving him a new 5 year contract. Can see Etebo going down the same route as he too is not Rowetts " signing". Neither was Berahino, Pieters, Butland, Allen, etc, etc - and they're not doing too badly. Also, he's used Etebo a lot when available so it seems bizarre that you've jumped to that weird conclusion. I don't think he's ever been left out (like Bauer)?? The OP is right though, Etebo is definitely not one of the favoured players, he is often first to be subbed despite being our only all round midfielder, mobile, can tackle, dribble and pass. We should be building around him not using him as we are. Hopefully when he comes back this will become obvious. For 3 in midfield, we don't control games as we should
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 10, 2018 10:56:02 GMT
Is Bauer all that? not really. However, to replace him with a temporary waste of space is astonishingly poor management.
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Post by Gods on Dec 10, 2018 11:02:11 GMT
One of the strangest episodes I can remember with a player. I can't think of one stranger. It simply can't be that Tweet saying he was training hard and ready to perform can it? I can only think of 2 possibilities NUCLEAR OPTION: He has had some cataclysmic and irredeemable bust up with Mr. Rowett such that they can no longer occupy the same space together. FOOTBALL OPTION: Mr. Rowett thinks he is a reckless and error prone full back and has confined him to the trash can forever. Worth asking the question at the Villa press conference if anyone is feeling brave enough? Light blue touch paper, stand well away!
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 10, 2018 11:09:31 GMT
Bauer is an exciting attacking RB and enjoyable to watch. He is a bit suspect at defending and makes mistakes, more so than Edwards i believe.
Martina has been hired on a very expensive loan, which Rowett has requested approved and therefore has to justify by using him.
Unfortunately for Bauer, Rowett does not do attacking and exciting so he has little chance of getting his nose in till a cup game.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 10, 2018 11:11:15 GMT
One of the strangest episodes I can remember with a player. I can't think of one stranger. It can't simply be that Tweet saying he was training hard and ready to perform can it? I can only think of 2 possibilities NUCLEAR OPTION: He has had some cataclysmic and irredeemable bust up with Mr. Rowett such that they can no longer occupy the same space together. FOOTBALL OPTION: Mr. Rowett thinks he is a reckless and error prone full back and has confined him to the trash can forever. Worth asking the question at the Villa press conference if anyone is feeling brave enough? Light blue touch paper, stand well away! Did he end up deleting his twitter as I've had a look for him and nothing to be seen for his account at all. Or maybe I'm searching the wrong user name for him.
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Post by Gods on Dec 10, 2018 11:18:08 GMT
I can't think of one stranger. It can't simply be that Tweet saying he was training hard and ready to perform can it? I can only think of 2 possibilities NUCLEAR OPTION: He has had some cataclysmic and irredeemable bust up with Mr. Rowett such that they can no longer occupy the same space together. FOOTBALL OPTION: Mr. Rowett thinks he is a reckless and error prone full back and has confined him to the trash can forever. Worth asking the question at the Villa press conference if anyone is feeling brave enough? Light blue touch paper, stand well away! Did he end up deleting his twitter as I've had a look for him and nothing to be seen for his account at all. Or maybe I'm searching the wrong user name for him. Don't know mate, I only read about it. But surely no player could be damned from here to eternity for showing some enthusiasm to get back on the pitch, that would just be ridiculous. On reflection I think Mr Coke may have something in his measured analysis above.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 10, 2018 11:21:59 GMT
Did he end up deleting his twitter as I've had a look for him and nothing to be seen for his account at all. Or maybe I'm searching the wrong user name for him. Don't know mate, I only read about it. But surely no player could be damned from here to eternity for showing some enthusiasm to get back on the pitch, that would just be ridiculous. On reflection I think Mr Coke may have something in his measured analysis above. I suspect he is right there, Gods. Bauer does love to get up the flank, at the expense of some defending prowess. Whilst I do think he or Edwards should be playing, yes the fact that Martina's loan will be expensive will be a factor on why he gets games over them two. And he really is a poor player for the most part. It's a shame really. Bauer really brought in to the Ethos of Lambert at least and wanting to work for the team.
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Post by lordb on Dec 10, 2018 11:32:47 GMT
Etebo not been picked for the last two games, Rowett out.
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 10, 2018 11:35:13 GMT
He was at Stoke railway station with Bojan about 6 oclock last evening, my mates lads had some photos with them of which they were very pleased to pose with anyone who asked,they then got on a train heading down south. Slowlee slowlee catchee monkey. Like a jigsaw, the smaller picture starts to grow when bits are slotted into place. Bauer is ostracised; Bojan gets on well with Bauer; Bojan - according to Rowett's comments after Saturday's game - is also not part of his plans. Beware the company you keep at Stoke... it seems. OS.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 10, 2018 11:36:39 GMT
Can't imagine there'll be a queue for him with his contract?
4.5 years left on a deal we bumped back up to Premier League terms?
Good luck with that.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 10, 2018 11:42:19 GMT
Etebo not been picked for the last two games, Rowett out.
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Post by boothenender on Dec 10, 2018 11:46:20 GMT
I do rate Bauer as a player.
I do not rate our recruitment or our contracts department. 5 year deal for Bauer ? Long term deal for an injury prone Shawcross. Who in my opinion is well past his best, long time servant to the club but he has been paid for every minute that he has been at Stoke City. We are not a charity, but we are run like a market stall. If these people where employed in an industrial environment they would be shown the door for incompetence. Peter Coates who i have a lot of respect for needs to sort this sham of a management team out. Coates family are awash with money but this management team are making them look stupid.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Dec 10, 2018 11:52:54 GMT
He can't defend - Martina can't defend.
I'd at least rather play the one who is contracted to us, and not waste a loan spot on that useless bastard Martina.
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Post by lordb on Dec 10, 2018 12:14:53 GMT
He can't defend - Martina can't defend. I'd at least rather play the one who is contracted to us, and not waste a loan spot on that useless bastard Martina. I think Martina can defend, he's certainly sound prepositionally Martina is too hesitant going forward though.Overall he's an OK fullback at this level. I'd play Edwards normally however don't expect him to play every week.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 10, 2018 12:21:30 GMT
He can't defend - Martina can't defend. I'd at least rather play the one who is contracted to us, and not waste a loan spot on that useless bastard Martina. I think Martina can defend, he's certainly sound prepositionally
Martina is too hesitant going forward though.Overall he's an OK fullback at this level. I'd play Edwards normally however don't expect him to play every week. Excellent - so long as his grammar is up to scratch we'll be fine
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Post by nonameface on Dec 10, 2018 12:31:56 GMT
I know this goes against the grain, apart from Rowetts view, but I do genuinely think Martina is our best right back with Bauer our poorest.
Bauer is our most exciting and confident at taking a man on, but his positioning and crossing is poor.
Edwards offers the best crossing, has a link in with the fans and is a decent all rounder.
Martina is defensively sound, makes good decisions with his passing and crossing, but technically isn't good enough to beat a man with the ball.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 10, 2018 12:32:52 GMT
Is Bauer all that? not really. However, to replace him with a temporary waste of space is astonishingly poor management. No - he isn't all that - far too much hype last season because he ran around a lot and looked fit (stark contract to many of the rest of them admittedly). However given we have him and are paying his wages it seems odd he doesn't warrant at least an occasional place on the bench as he can offer cover both in defence and midfield - or for no other reason than being able to chase down in the last 10 minutes. However as possibly 7th substitute choice he then falls foul of not having come through our academy - hence inclusion of Sorensen on Saturday. On the subject of which - 10 minutes to go, at home and 2-0 against the division's bottom team up wouldn't it have been a great opportunity to give Sorensen a brief run-out? But no - on come academy hopefuls Fletcher and Crouch. Tells you all you need to know about Rowett.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 10, 2018 12:34:39 GMT
Moritz who?
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Post by nott1 on Dec 10, 2018 12:39:50 GMT
He was at Stoke railway station with Bojan about 6 oclock last evening, my mates lads had some photos with them of which they were very pleased to pose with anyone who asked,they then got on a train heading down south. Slowlee slowlee catchee monkey. Like a jigsaw, the smaller picture starts to grow when bits are slotted into place. Bauer is ostracised; Bojan gets on well with Bauer; Bojan - according to Rowett's comments after Saturday's game - is also not part of his plans. Beware the company you keep at Stoke... it seems. OS. It's time PC put his foot down and got rid of Rowett who is wasting PC's money by not playing players with a long contract on good pay. ROWETT OUT!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 10, 2018 12:42:07 GMT
Slowlee slowlee catchee monkey. Like a jigsaw, the smaller picture starts to grow when bits are slotted into place. Bauer is ostracised; Bojan gets on well with Bauer; Bojan - according to Rowett's comments after Saturday's game - is also not part of his plans. Beware the company you keep at Stoke... it seems. OS. It's time PC put his foot down and got rid of Rowett who is wasting Pc's money by not playing players with a long contract on good pay. ROWETT OUT! While you may have a point re GR, you can’t have a Chairman telling a manager who he can and can’t play, that a disaster waiting to happen
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Post by hooftastic on Dec 10, 2018 13:15:15 GMT
where has this nonsense come from about him not being able to defend?
He had two poor games at the start of the season (like everyone else) but can't recall him being shit outside of that?
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Post by cousindupree on Dec 10, 2018 13:21:51 GMT
It is very strange. I actually thought he was one of our better players last season hence the 5 year contract and many on here including myself were genuine pleased he had stayed with us. That he is such a persona non grata with Rowett after such a short time is baffling. My take is that Bauer is arguably the most intelligent of our squad (he is a polyglot, a qualified pilot and also plays the piano to a high standard) sussed Rowett out very early on as being tactically poor and probably told him so.
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