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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 1, 2018 17:03:52 GMT
We should have won that easily but Afobe had a bit of a shocker first half
Clucas, Ince, Allen, Woods linked up really well
JM should have been pulled half time for Berahino He was very poor today
However, I am sorry Mr Rowett but you botlled it at the end with negative subs. We were comfortable and in this case the best form of defense is attack
Sadly Rowett's reputation for safety first football is showing up again
Reading were very poor = 2 points dropped
We clearly have the players, just not the right manager
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Post by scfc64 on Dec 1, 2018 17:15:13 GMT
100%. We clearly have the players, just not the right manager.
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Post by milky on Dec 1, 2018 17:18:57 GMT
I will repeat what I said earlier.
A decent manager with bollocks would get this squad in the top 6 blindfolded
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Post by stokeson on Dec 1, 2018 17:27:09 GMT
Wrong about the Manager and Wrong about Brexit.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 17:27:09 GMT
Well done sufolk. It really looks like we've got the wrong bloke in charge. Another false dawn rises at Stoke. How often have we blown these one goal leads? Frustrating to say the least!
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Post by harrysburrow on Dec 1, 2018 17:39:42 GMT
I will repeat what I said earlier. A decent manager with bollocks would get this squad in the top 6 blindfolded Spot on. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2018 17:49:21 GMT
The negativity on this board is unbelievable
Yes I’m really pissed off that we conceded in the last minute and yes Rowett tried to shut up shop(just like Pulis every week) but did he miss the chances created 1st half.We should have been out of sight and now and again good players have to take some blame also.
Keep the faith because it will turn
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 1, 2018 17:54:12 GMT
Those players failed to defend well against a shit team, I agree the last sub was ridiculous, but we still don't have the defence, Shawcross was poor all game.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 1, 2018 17:56:16 GMT
When you've got 5 at the back how on earth do you manage to leave their winger completely free in the box in the 94th minute?
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Dec 1, 2018 17:56:38 GMT
The negativity on this board is unbelievable Yes I’m really pissed off that we conceded in the last minute and yes Rowett tried to shut up shop(just like Pulis every week) but did he miss the chances created 1st half.We should have been out of sight and now and again good players have to take some blame also. Keep the faith because it will turn When? Hes had 6 months and 20 odd games. We've won 6!???!? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 1, 2018 17:58:33 GMT
When you've got 5 at the back how on earth do you manage to leave their winger completely free in the box in the 94th minute? Rowett told them to  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2018 17:58:47 GMT
The negativity on this board is unbelievable Yes I’m really pissed off that we conceded in the last minute and yes Rowett tried to shut up shop(just like Pulis every week) but did he miss the chances created 1st half.We should have been out of sight and now and again good players have to take some blame also. Keep the faith because it will turn When? Hes had 6 months and 20 odd games. We've won 6!???!? You could turn it round also and say he’s lost 5,yes it’s not good enough for the players we have but like I said he didn’t miss the chances today. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 1, 2018 17:59:47 GMT
I really hoped we had turned a corner on Wednesday, shit way to follow it up really, can t say too much as I haven't seen the game but we shouldn't be trying to hang on against a piss poor team with the squad we have .
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 1, 2018 17:59:51 GMT
The negativity on this board is unbelievable Yes I’m really pissed off that we conceded in the last minute and yes Rowett tried to shut up shop(just like Pulis every week) but did he miss the chances created 1st half.We should have been out of sight and now and again good players have to take some blame also. Keep the faith because it will turn When? Hes had 6 months and 20 odd games. We've won 6!???!? Not long enough to rebuild the shambles of a squad he walked in to. |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Dec 1, 2018 18:00:14 GMT
The negativity on this board is unbelievable Yes I’m really pissed off that we conceded in the last minute and yes Rowett tried to shut up shop(just like Pulis every week) but did he miss the chances created 1st half.We should have been out of sight and now and again good players have to take some blame also. Keep the faith because it will turn Although I totally agree with your first point,Rowett dropped a bollock today.Instead of going for the jugular we invited pressure solely due to his subs. I'm not one of those who expects ex prem Stoke to wipe the floor with the teams in the Championship,but having watched the game,Reading were dreadful,no way should we have sat back. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 1, 2018 18:00:16 GMT
The negativity on this board is unbelievable Yes I’m really pissed off that we conceded in the last minute and yes Rowett tried to shut up shop(just like Pulis every week) but did he miss the chances created 1st half.We should have been out of sight and now and again good players have to take some blame also. Keep the faith because it will turn Fella - he is and has always been a saftey first manager. Both his subs were wrong. We were all over them and the last 10 minutes was just an open invite to come at us and tehre was no need Shut up shop against Reading - really? Too many draws This keep the faith stuff is nonesense |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 1, 2018 18:00:26 GMT
The negativity on this board is unbelievable Yes I’m really pissed off that we conceded in the last minute and yes Rowett tried to shut up shop(just like Pulis every week) but did he miss the chances created 1st half.We should have been out of sight and now and again good players have to take some blame also. Keep the faith because it will turn The logic doesn't hold up I'm afraid. We could and maybe should have scored more, yes. But we didn't. Rowett knew this, knew we were only one goal up, knew we weren't under pressure, and decided to invite pressure. That the players could have buried more is irrelevant, the fact is that they didn't, and he still chose of his own free will to invite them to attack our slight lead. Weird at best, incompetent at worst. I also fail to see any reason to believe it will turn. Last year we had posters saying the exact same thing about Hughes despite a total lack of evidence. Blindly believing that something will drop won't do us any favours at all. |
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 1, 2018 18:02:18 GMT
We should have won that easily but Afobe had a bit of a shocker first half Clucas, Ince, Allen, Woods linked up really well JM should have been pulled half time for Berahino He was very poor today However, I am sorry Mr Rowett but you botlled it at the end with negative subs. We were comfortable and in this case the best form of defense is attack Sadly Rowett's reputation for safety first football is showing up again Reading were very poor = 2 points dropped We clearly have the players, just not the right manager We are sat in pub in Reading and what threw that game away wasn’t negative subs it was piss poor game management. Last minute of injury time and it isn’t the manager who launches an aimless ball down the right wing to give possession away is it? BM |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 1, 2018 18:03:31 GMT
The negativity on this board is unbelievable Yes I’m really pissed off that we conceded in the last minute and yes Rowett tried to shut up shop(just like Pulis every week) but did he miss the chances created 1st half.We should have been out of sight and now and again good players have to take some blame also. Keep the faith because it will turn Although I totally agree with your first point,Rowett dropped a bollock today.Instead of going for the jugular we invited pressure solely due to his subs. I'm not one of those who expects ex prem Stoke to wipe the floor with the teams in the Championship,but having watched the game,Reading were dreadful,no way should we have sat back. Exactly People over react on this board if one expresses their views. I for one never thought we would walk this league as it is easier to stay in the Prem than get promoted from this crazy league However he is a safety first manager and makes very strange subs. This is not unique to us, Derby and Brum mates said the same when we hired him Right players, wrong manager is my view |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 1, 2018 18:03:46 GMT
Those players failed to defend well against a shit team, I agree the last sub was ridiculous, but we still don't have the defence, Shawcross was poor all game. And knowing this, Rowett still opted to make defence our primary game plan for about twenty minutes. It's ludicrous. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 1, 2018 18:06:53 GMT
We should have won that easily but Afobe had a bit of a shocker first half Clucas, Ince, Allen, Woods linked up really well JM should have been pulled half time for Berahino He was very poor today However, I am sorry Mr Rowett but you botlled it at the end with negative subs. We were comfortable and in this case the best form of defense is attack Sadly Rowett's reputation for safety first football is showing up again Reading were very poor = 2 points dropped We clearly have the players, just not the right manager We are sat in pub in Reading and what threw that game away wasn’t negative subs it was piss poor game management. Last minute of injury time and it isn’t the manager who launches an aimless ball down the right wing to give possession away is it? BM OK BM - our lot saw it differently re the subs invited pressure when there was no need But you are right that we changed to hoofball when there was no need |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 1, 2018 18:08:18 GMT
Those players failed to defend well against a shit team, I agree the last sub was ridiculous, but we still don't have the defence, Shawcross was poor all game. And knowing this, Rowett still opted to make defence our primary game plan for about twenty minutes. It's ludicrous. I don't disagree it was a poor decision, it's a shame because he got it pretty much spot on with the line up, dominating etc, its my biggest crit of him, he shits it too much, needs to trust his players more. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2018 18:11:03 GMT
Although I totally agree with your first point,Rowett dropped a bollock today.Instead of going for the jugular we invited pressure solely due to his subs. I'm not one of those who expects ex prem Stoke to wipe the floor with the teams in the Championship,but having watched the game,Reading were dreadful,no way should we have sat back. Exactly People over react on this board if one expresses their views. I for one never thought we would walk this league as it is easier to stay in the Prem than get promoted from this crazy league However he is a safety first manager and makes very strange subs. This is not unique to us, Derby and Brum mates said the same when we hired him Right players, wrong manager is my viewing Mate I look forward to your views because you’re a proper fan and yes he got it wrong by trying to defend a last minute lead but he’s no different to numerous managers in football |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Dec 1, 2018 18:26:33 GMT
When? Hes had 6 months and 20 odd games. We've won 6!???!? Not long enough to rebuild the shambles of a squad he walked in to. This shambles of a squad should still be doing far better than they are. 6 of the 1st eleven are his signings!?? He is scared of his own shadow. We will be a mid table championship team with him as manager. Nothing he has done has convinced me otherwise. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 1, 2018 18:38:29 GMT
If you do what you've always done then you'll get what you've always got.
Another false dawn in afraid, and it all comes down to a lack of bottle and bad decisions.
Draws do not get you promoted and I am sick to death of watching us shit ourselves against dreadful opposition. The shackles have to come off and we need to be full tilt from now until the end of the season.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 1, 2018 18:39:19 GMT
Not long enough to rebuild the shambles of a squad he walked in to. This shambles of a squad should still be doing far better than they are. 6 of the 1st eleven are his signings!?? He is scared of his own shadow. We will be a mid table championship team with him as manager. Nothing he has done has convinced me otherwise. Should they, the defenders that he hasn't signed have been awful on the whole, whoever told him the defence was fine needs sacking. |
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Dec 1, 2018 19:05:13 GMT
The negativity on this board is unbelievable Yes I’m really pissed off that we conceded in the last minute and yes Rowett tried to shut up shop(just like Pulis every week) but did he miss the chances created 1st half.We should have been out of sight and now and again good players have to take some blame also. Keep the faith because it will turn Completely agree with you. We should have had Reading buried by half time. How Afobe did not put that header in early? He missed a second gilt edged chance before Jack was even called upon at all. i was very pissed off sitting in the Reading end and watching a game which we were dominating, change in the last 15 minutes. A point away is never poor but if Stoke have ambition to catch the top two, it is not good enough. Onto Ipswich and hoping we get three points and push us further up the league. |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Dec 1, 2018 19:23:15 GMT
This shambles of a squad should still be doing far better than they are. 6 of the 1st eleven are his signings!?? He is scared of his own shadow. We will be a mid table championship team with him as manager. Nothing he has done has convinced me otherwise. Should they, the defenders that he hasn't signed have been awful on the whole, whoever told him the defence was fine needs sacking. So Martina and Williams arent his signings? The most worrying thing is that I think most of his signings seem ok, hes just not a very good manager is he? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 1, 2018 19:30:28 GMT
Should they, the defenders that he hasn't signed have been awful on the whole, whoever told him the defence was fine needs sacking. So Martina and Williams arent his signings? The most worrying thing is that I think most of his signings seem ok, hes just not a very good manager is he? Williams has been good and didn't start today, Martina has been hit and miss, I don't think he's a bad manager, I think he had/has a lot of work to do given the squad he walked into and its not a surprise he doesn't trust them, we dominated today but the defence let him down, he shouldn't have made that sub but it was still shocking from the players and that seems to be getting overlooked. As I keep saying one summer was never going to be enough, and that shouldn't be a surprise given some in this squad were involved in getting beaten by Coventry last season, its a rebuild season, always was. |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Dec 1, 2018 19:31:55 GMT
So Martina and Williams arent his signings? The most worrying thing is that I think most of his signings seem ok, hes just not a very good manager is he? Williams has been good and didn't start today, Martina has been hit and miss, I don't think he's a bad manager, I think he had/has a lot of work to do given the squad he walked into and its not a surprise he doesn't trust them, we dominated today but the defence let him down, he shouldn't have made that sub but it was still shocking from the players and that seems to be getting overlooked. As I keep saying one summer was never going to be enough, and that shouldn't be a surprise given some are this squad were involved in getting beaten by Coventry last season, its a rebuild season, always was. We'll agree to disagree on this one. |
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