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Post by andystokey on Nov 30, 2018 9:14:25 GMT
Why isn't it as simple as giving the away fans the 3000 seats to the left of the goal as seen from the Boothen, instead of the 3000 seats to the right?
Straight swap for home ST holders to the corresponding seat and the tarp stays down the middle.
They get the dogs abuse from both sides and we get the tunnel.
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Post by mrred on Nov 30, 2018 9:37:31 GMT
Why isn't it as simple as giving the away fans the 3000 seats to the left of the goal as seen from the Boothen, instead of the 3000 seats to the right? Straight swap for home ST holders to the corresponding seat and the tarp stays down the middle. They get the dogs abuse from both sides and we get the tunnel. Means Stoke putting their hands in their pockets for more Stewards, or having to actually do something to improve matchdays.
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 30, 2018 10:08:34 GMT
We're not going to move the whole away section and rejig all the STs/seating/stewarding/concourse/parking etc etc etc just so our players aren't walking out next to the away fans. If it's really a problem, the easiest and cheapest solution *by far* is to extend the collapsible extending bit of the tunnel up the touchline to the halfway line. We could have that done for the next home game probably. In my mind's eye I now have a vision of the teams walking up the tunnel, and as they approach the end it starts moving away as the tunnel extends further and further onto the pitch. They walk and walk and never reach the light..... Could be a good gag for 1st of April
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Post by chuckrocky on Nov 30, 2018 10:25:53 GMT
Why not put away fans in the new corner and move the family area to the current away section?
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Post by neddy on Nov 30, 2018 10:36:17 GMT
The answer has always been build dressing rooms etc in the open corner of the boothen, keep shop, admin as now and move media from main stand into the existing tunnel corner?
That would leave room in the main stand for a few more seats?
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 30, 2018 10:42:11 GMT
the answer is to build new dressing rooms (& a new tunnel) in the Northwest corner instead. I've said this for some years. But it is not going to happen till we are back in the Prem (!) and demand for STs is sufficiently high. Meanwhile the visitors are in the best practicable place given segregation from home fans access and egress and the coach park. My vision if I was owner would be to build a state of the art players/officials/media corner that is second to none in the world in the NW corner, with the best available changing, admin., media facilities for players, officials, press, TV, and partners and family, etc. We cannot ever be the biggest club in the world, or realistically the best in terms of football, but we could be the best value for money and most attractive club outside of the "big clubs". (Just a pipe dream I know, I'm not the owner with £billions.)
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Post by danceswithclams on Nov 30, 2018 10:47:35 GMT
Despite having very wealthy owners were now operating on a championship budget - so I can't see the board sanctioning an expensive dressing room relocation to another corner. The cheapest option would be to buy a new flexible tunnel which leads more directly up the touchline which could be longer than the one we have now so the players aren't walking out directly next to the away fans. The tunnel could be clear on the side nearest to the stoke fans so stokie can still see the players but coloured as it is now on the other side so away fans aren't visible. Nd by the time players leave the longer tunnel onto the pitch there half way up the touchline. Simples and cheap...I can see at Peter liking this option😁 If you're not appointed CEO of Stoke City Football Club immediately then I shall be very disappointed. It's forward-thinking visionaries like this we need. I'm setting up a Kickstarter as we speak to make this batshit mental solution a reality - please give generously and be sure to share the hashtag #TRANSPAROTUNNEL across social media. C'mon folks, with a little bit of determination we can make this happen. BRING ON THE TRANSPARO-TUNNEL!!!
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Nov 30, 2018 10:49:58 GMT
Why not put away fans in the new corner and move the family area to the current away section? Ding, Ding, Ding. we have a winner.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Nov 30, 2018 11:01:44 GMT
the answer is to build new dressing rooms (& a new tunnel) in the Northwest corner instead. ^THIS^
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Post by rawli on Nov 30, 2018 11:03:50 GMT
Make it a real tunnel. Go under the pitch and come out of a manhole one by one on the centre spot. Would have to grease Charlie up but apart from that I don't anticipate any issues. Could have a slide or fireman's pole for getting off the pitch.
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Post by 3putts on Nov 30, 2018 11:06:25 GMT
not this one again. we have debated this to death. it will never happen logistics isall you need to know.
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 30, 2018 11:08:23 GMT
the problem is the coach park . no way of moving that. Thing is, we're in 2018. How many other clubs no longer gate the away fans away like fucking cattle? I've been to my fair share of away grounds over the years and I've never experienced any trouble walking through masses of home fans, with or without 'colours' on. There's no reason they couldn't just park up on there or along the front of the main stand and walk to wherever the new away section would be. The majority of fans that want to kick off come on train or car anyway so they're already walking through home fans. It's an utterly bizarre place to house away fans and always has been. They'd have to update the facilities in the away end though, it's like a fucking prison in there. You forget, this is Stoke. They are not gating the away fans, they are gating the home fans!
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Post by 3putts on Nov 30, 2018 11:08:43 GMT
Why isn't it as simple as giving the away fans the 3000 seats to the left of the goal as seen from the Boothen, instead of the 3000 seats to the right? Straight swap for home ST holders to the corresponding seat and the tarp stays down the middle. They get the dogs abuse from both sides and we get the tunnel. Means Stoke putting their hands in their pockets for more Stewards, or having to actually do something to improve matchdays. how will moving the away fans enhance my matchday experience? seems its allways the armchair fans moaning about somat.
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Post by mrred on Nov 30, 2018 11:11:32 GMT
Means Stoke putting their hands in their pockets for more Stewards, or having to actually do something to improve matchdays. how will moving the away fans enhance my matchday experience? seems its allways the armchair fans moaning about somat. Of course it is...
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Post by mattyd on Nov 30, 2018 11:13:21 GMT
Make it a real tunnel. Go under the pitch and come out of a manhole one by one on the centre spot. Would have to grease Charlie up but apart from that I don't anticipate any issues. Could have a slide or fireman's pole for getting off the pitch. We could also have some fans on the pitch dressed as cavemen with giant inflatable clubs, and who ever whacks James McClean on the head as he exits the tunnel wins a free pint at half time. Sort of a giant Whack Attack...In fact re name it...Mac Attack...
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Post by rawli on Nov 30, 2018 11:19:38 GMT
Make it a real tunnel. Go under the pitch and come out of a manhole one by one on the centre spot. Would have to grease Charlie up but apart from that I don't anticipate any issues. Could have a slide or fireman's pole for getting off the pitch. We could also have some fans on the pitch dressed as cavemen with giant inflatable clubs, and who ever whacks James McClean on the head as he exits the tunnel wins a free pint at half time. Sort of a giant Whack Attack...In fact re name it...Mac Attack... View AttachmentBut will the club go for it? Typical unimaginative blinkered thinking.
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Post by Gods on Nov 30, 2018 11:35:24 GMT
How would moving the away area help us? Is the concern that the players enter and leave the field adjacent to the away fans? I'm not sure why that is a problem. The upside is that as you enter the field of play and look around its Stoke fans to left and right and in front as far as the eye can see. (Actually its mostly lots of empty plastic seats at the moment since we went down but you get the idea.) Given the away fans have to be somewhere its not clear to me why its better that that somewhere is somewhere other than where they are today? I think its more about the noise the away fans make than the visual aspect that Rowett was referring to ,when you watch the sky matches you can her them clearly above the stoke fans Yes but surely that has more to with where microphones are located and that away fans typically constitute a tight knit group of dedicated singers? If you listen to our fans away we generally out sing the home fans. You'll see that at Reading at the weekend and when we play the reverse fixture at Derby for example.
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Post by ursemboys on Nov 30, 2018 12:16:35 GMT
I think its more about the noise the away fans make than the visual aspect that Rowett was referring to ,when you watch the sky matches you can her them clearly above the stoke fans Yes but surely that has more to with where microphones are located and that away fans typically constitute a tight knit group of dedicated singers? If you listen to our fans away we generally out sing the home fans. You'll see that at Reading at the weekend and when we play the reverse fixture at Derby for example. True ,perhaps we should play all out games away lol
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Post by lifelong on Nov 30, 2018 12:41:46 GMT
and with ten men
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 30, 2018 13:27:22 GMT
Exactly this is a non story which periodically keeps raising its pointless head why comment on it then ,just read past it He's probably on the same 10p per post contract as I am!
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 30, 2018 13:52:47 GMT
Make it a real tunnel. Go under the pitch and come out of a manhole one by one on the centre spot. Would have to grease Charlie up but apart from that I don't anticipate any issues. Could have a slide or fireman's pole for getting off the pitch. Like this idea. A bit like that scene from The Great Escape. You could switch the floodlights on and off and the players have to pop up when the lights are off while the crowd whistle the theme tune from the film. Got to be more entertaining than the footie usually is.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Nov 30, 2018 14:09:07 GMT
Despite having very wealthy owners were now operating on a championship budget - so I can't see the board sanctioning an expensive dressing room relocation to another corner. The cheapest option would be to buy a new flexible tunnel which leads more directly up the touchline which could be longer than the one we have now so the players aren't walking out directly next to the away fans. The tunnel could be clear on the side nearest to the stoke fans so stokie can still see the players but coloured as it is now on the other side so away fans aren't visible. Nd by the time players leave the longer tunnel onto the pitch there half way up the touchline. Simples and cheap...I can see at Peter liking this option😁 If you're not appointed CEO of Stoke City Football Club immediately then I shall be very disappointed. It's forward-thinking visionaries like this we need. I'm setting up a Kickstarter as we speak to make this batshit mental solution a reality - please give generously and be sure to share the hashtag #TRANSPAROTUNNEL across social media. C'mon folks, with a little bit of determination we can make this happen. BRING ON THE TRANSPARO-TUNNEL!!!Thanks I'm glad you like the idea👍 In all honesty though the board aren't going to spend big money and move the dressing rooms so it's transpar-tunnel or nothing.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 30, 2018 14:17:54 GMT
It'll be all about the Old Bill. They like the cage behind the away end it makes their job easier and means they can claim their overtime with less risk of having to do any work. Any attempt by us to move the away end to an area where the fans aren't so easily kept apart will be vetoed by the police.
Then there's the cost of implementing these changes now we're not a Premier League club and we no longer have any spare cash.
Good idea and the ground should have been designed differently but things are as they are and there's no chance of it changing while we're in The Championship.
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Post by nott1 on Nov 30, 2018 14:22:40 GMT
Not sure if anyone picked up on Rowett's comments before the game but he'd mentioned that he'd asked the club about the possibility of moving the away end as it's quite obviously in a fucking wank position. Hopefully there's some legs in this and can be raised at the next supporters council thingy? About fucking time if true. Fingers crossed. Wonder who decided it was the ideal place?
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Post by nott1 on Nov 30, 2018 14:29:06 GMT
why comment on it then ,just read past it He's probably on the same 10p per post contract as I am! Nobody would pay 10p for your utterings LL, sorry!
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Post by danceswithclams on Nov 30, 2018 14:31:39 GMT
Not sure if anyone picked up on Rowett's comments before the game but he'd mentioned that he'd asked the club about the possibility of moving the away end as it's quite obviously in a fucking wank position. Hopefully there's some legs in this and can be raised at the next supporters council thingy? About fucking time if true. Fingers crossed. Wonder who decided it was the ideal place? Tony Scholes probably. Granted, he was almost certainly at KPMG or Preston North End when the ground was being planned, but it was definitely him. #ScholesOut
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 30, 2018 14:44:58 GMT
At the Rotherham match, the police barrier stopped me going directly to my car and I had to walk all the way round 3 sides of the stadium and more. If old aged fans like me have to do that late at night, then the fit, young athletes should leave the dressing room and walk round the front of the main stand and in at the north west corner, simple!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 30, 2018 15:08:32 GMT
Never understood why they built a corner tunnel???
Much prefer to see teams come out of a central tunnel!!!
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Post by Miles Offside on Nov 30, 2018 17:59:47 GMT
As a temporary measure, section off (put a canvas over) the first 20 rows across from the tunnel and 20 rows back - a square of 400 seats.
And while we're at re-arranging things, when there's a small away following, allow Stoke fans to sit in the South stand central block seats instead of leaving them empty. They're some of the best seats in the stadium and it looks like the ground's empty when we're on TV and they're sectioned off.
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Post by bloodtypered on Nov 30, 2018 19:32:27 GMT
trouble is where do you move it to ? boothen...by the screen
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