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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 12:54:21 GMT
It's not nonsense, the constant bedwetting on here is mad. I haven't accepted mediocrity at all, that's just the argument of the fucking bedwetters! You'll be saying I'm a happy clapper next which again couldn't be further from the truth. I'm far from over the moon with how we are doing but i'm realistic. So don't give me bollocks about embracing mediocrity to suit your argument cause that's just a load of shite so the rest of the moaning bastards on here will agree with your post. The fact is you're not being realistic. Rowett inherited an absolute shit show of a club and had to steady the ship before we can make progress, he's done that. We didn't even spend much in the summer once you've taken incoming transfer fee's into account and we struggled to get rid of most of the deadwood that he inherited, shows just how bad we are. He ca 't do right for many on here, people just don't like him without much reason. If you think 6 points is a massive gap to make up in the championship then you're wrong and you're deluded, sorry we are not top of the table and undefeated as that's the only thing that just MIGHT stop some people from moaning, not sure it would mind. Do you agree with Peter Coates that the top 6 is the bare minimum we should expect this season or is he being 'unrealistic' as well? Yes I do agree with him, I never said i didn't agree with that. But... it's fucking November the 12th, we are 6 (six) points off the play offs. It's a little early to be throwing your toys out of the pram and saying Rowett has failed to achieve a top 6 finish.. Being unrealistic would be expecting us to be flying and winning nearly every game. Do you not agree that Fulham are in the Premier league this season? Do you not agree that they only had 4 wins at the stage last season (less than us now)? And that they had 20 points at this stage last season? (less than us now)? Do you not agree that they were 16th in the league at this stage last season (lower than us)? Do you not agree that they ended up finishing 3rd? I could go on but i think I've proved my point.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 12, 2018 12:56:31 GMT
don't agree, I don't think he's failing. I think he's steadied the ship following freefall. You have to crack an egg to make an omelette. Work in progress Carrying on with the egg metaphor- So how come West Brom have got past the egg-cracking stage and have moved onto the recipe, considering their whisk was in a worse condition than ours a few months ago. Have they got a 'chef' in charge who knows what he's doing maybe? I beg to differ on the worse condition part. I think the size of the task that Rowett has is vastly underestimated and it's down to the bad recruitment of the last few seasons, half of our lot are not fit for purpose anymore.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 12, 2018 12:57:10 GMT
Do you agree with Peter Coates that the top 6 is the bare minimum we should expect this season or is he being 'unrealistic' as well? Yes I do agree with him, I never said i didn't agree with that. But... it's fucking November the 12th, we are 6 (six) points off the play offs. It's a little early to be throwing your toys out of the pram and saying Rowett has failed to achieve a top 6 finish.. Being unrealistic would be expecting us to be flying and winning nearly every game. Do you not agree that Fulham are in the Premier league this season? Do you not agree that they only had 4 wins at the stage last season (less than us now)? And that they had 20 points at this stage last season? (less than us now)? Do you not agree that they were 16th in the league at this stage last season (lower than us)? Do you not agree that they ended up finishing 3rd? I could go on but i think I've proved my point. Fulham also went on a run that saw them win 19 and draw 2 of 21 games. Do you really think we have such a run of form in us? You haven't proven any point beyond the one that you are reasonably content with how things are progressing and understand why we might be watching the shit show that Rowett currently passes off as acceptable football.
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 12:58:50 GMT
Yes I do agree with him, I never said i didn't agree with that. But... it's fucking November the 12th, we are 6 (six) points off the play offs. It's a little early to be throwing your toys out of the pram and saying Rowett has failed to achieve a top 6 finish.. Being unrealistic would be expecting us to be flying and winning nearly every game. Do you not agree that Fulham are in the Premier league this season? Do you not agree that they only had 4 wins at the stage last season (less than us now)? And that they had 20 points at this stage last season? (less than us now)? Do you not agree that they were 16th in the league at this stage last season (lower than us)? Do you not agree that they ended up finishing 3rd? I could go on but i think I've proved my point. They also went on a run that saw them win 19 and draw 2 of 21 games. Do you really think we have such a run of form in us? You haven't proven any point beyond the one that you are reasonably content with how things are progressing and understand why we might be watching the shit show that Rowett currently passes off as acceptable football. No, i've showed exactly that 6 points is nothing of a gap in this division. We should be doing better, but we are not failing and a shit show.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Nov 12, 2018 12:59:39 GMT
QPR, Derby, Ipswich at home & Reading and Villa away. All are winnable and we should be picking up 12 points. Villa away could be tricky. Its ceratinly time to turn around the home form. I feel a good run coming. Altough QPR will be tough.
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Post by RF10 on Nov 12, 2018 13:00:29 GMT
Norwich have just won 5 on the bounce for the second time this season. I cant remember the last time we strung 3 wins together. 2 wins, 2 draws and 1 defeat giving 8 points is about realistic And we beat them away.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 12, 2018 13:00:49 GMT
0-0, 1-1, 1-0, 0-1, 0-0.
Spread those across those 5 games.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 12, 2018 13:02:27 GMT
They also went on a run that saw them win 19 and draw 2 of 21 games. Do you really think we have such a run of form in us? You haven't proven any point beyond the one that you are reasonably content with how things are progressing and understand why we might be watching the shit show that Rowett currently passes off as acceptable football. No, i've showed exactly that 6 points is nothing of a gap in this division. We should be doing better, but we are not failing and a shit show. We are most certainly failing at this current point in time and we're not that far off being shit show either. This is a poor league and we're struggling in it. The biggest concern is that we so don't look anywhere near capable of significantly turning things around.
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 12, 2018 13:03:10 GMT
0-0, 1-1, 1-0, 0-1, 0-0. Spread those across those 5 games. Looking forward to that 1-1 😊
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 12, 2018 13:04:44 GMT
They also went on a run that saw them win 19 and draw 2 of 21 games. Do you really think we have such a run of form in us? You haven't proven any point beyond the one that you are reasonably content with how things are progressing and understand why we might be watching the shit show that Rowett currently passes off as acceptable football. No, i've showed exactly that 6 points is nothing of a gap in this division. We should be doing better, but we are not failing and a shit show. The performances in the last 5 games have been little short of pathetic unless you are watching on teletext. Keep performing like that and we won't claw back any points on those ahead of us, 6 points or otherwise.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 12, 2018 13:06:18 GMT
Norwich have just won 5 on the bounce for the second time this season. I cant remember the last time we strung 3 wins together. 2 wins, 2 draws and 1 defeat giving 8 points is about realistic And we beat them away. Without having a shot of our own on target. You reckon if we played that game again, we'd get the same result?
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 13:07:45 GMT
No, i've showed exactly that 6 points is nothing of a gap in this division. We should be doing better, but we are not failing and a shit show. The performances in the last 5 games have been little short of pathetic unless you are watching on teletext. Keep performing like that and we won't claw back any points on those ahead of us, 6 points or otherwise. I don't "watch on teletext" , I go home and away cheers. Your opinion, you're wrong like but good luck to ya.
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 13:09:04 GMT
Without having a shot of our own on target. You reckon if we played that game again, we'd get the same result? Ah shit, I forgot a win doesn't count unless you put on an impressive performance too. Damn, we'll have to ring up the FA and get them to take back those 3 points. Christ.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 12, 2018 13:12:32 GMT
Without having a shot of our own on target. You reckon if we played that game again, we'd get the same result? Ah shit, I forgot a win doesn't count unless you put on an impressive performance too. Damn, we'll have to ring up the FA and get them to take back those 3 points. Christ. Now you are just being silly. A win is a win but the standard of the performance at least provides an indicator of what might follow. Keep playing like we did away to Norwich and we'll lose more than we win, or at least draw more than we win or lose because neither team deserved anything other than a 0-0 in that game. We aren't playing in a fashion that convinces anyone other than you that a lengthy run of good results is around the corner. We simply aren't playing very well in games as our chance creation and shots tally prove on a weekly basis. We need to improve and we need to improve both drastically and quickly.
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 12, 2018 13:15:17 GMT
I can't see how anyone can see us as being anything other than failing at the minute.
We were favourites to win the league and we have probably the biggest budget for Wages/Transfers than anyone else in the league. At the bare minimum we should have been jostling around the top 6 yet we haven't climbed out of the bottom half of the league yet.
Yes Rowett has fixed 1 major problem with the defence, but it's also shown up that the attackive unit he bought just isn't good enough, and if they are he isn't letting them do their thing because they're all busy defending.
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 13:16:20 GMT
Ah shit, I forgot a win doesn't count unless you put on an impressive performance too. Damn, we'll have to ring up the FA and get them to take back those 3 points. Christ. Now you are just being silly. A win is a win but the standard of the performance at least provides an indicator of what might follow. Keep playing like we did away to Norwich and we'll lose more than we win, or at least draw more than we win or lose because neither team deserved anything other than a 0-0 in that game. We aren't playing in a fashion that convinces anyone other than you that a lengthy run of good results is around the corner. We simply aren't playing very well in games as our chance creation and shots tally prove on a weekly basis. We need to improve and we need to improve both drastically and quickly. I'm really not, moaning about a win against the in form side in the league away from home is silly. Negative, negative, negative...
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 12, 2018 13:20:29 GMT
Only seen the highlights from Saturday and from a lot of accounts we actually played OK but, looking at most highlights this season, the opposition seem to have much more spark and inventiveness than us with Butland saving us quite a few points (yes, that's his job).
Yes, we may 'only' be 6 points off the play-offs or whatever but we've been lacklustre for at least 75% of the season so far. It's thoroughly depressing to watch and, honestly, nowhere near good enough.
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Post by cousindupree on Nov 12, 2018 13:47:10 GMT
Now you are just being silly. A win is a win but the standard of the performance at least provides an indicator of what might follow. Keep playing like we did away to Norwich and we'll lose more than we win, or at least draw more than we win or lose because neither team deserved anything other than a 0-0 in that game. We aren't playing in a fashion that convinces anyone other than you that a lengthy run of good results is around the corner. We simply aren't playing very well in games as our chance creation and shots tally prove on a weekly basis. We need to improve and we need to improve both drastically and quickly. I'm really not, moaning about a win against the in form side in the league away from home is silly. Negative, negative, negative... Yep that pretty much sums up Rowett's approach to games....negative...his football has midtable wriiten all over it. No doubt you will be happy with that.
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 13:49:48 GMT
I'm really not, moaning about a win against the in form side in the league away from home is silly. Negative, negative, negative... Yep that pretty much sums up Rowett's approach to games....negative...his football has midtable wriiten all over it. No doubt you will be happy with that. Oh bore off, not what i said is it. Pointless talking to the Rowett out brigade. Fucking clueless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 14:01:23 GMT
I'll have you a £10 bet that Rowett sees the season out as manager of SCFC Are you Rowett then?? I fink not
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 12, 2018 14:20:16 GMT
Getting 9 points out of the last 6 games whilst only actually scoring 2 goals ourselves is a quite phenomenal achievement. Scary as fuck but quite remarkable really!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 12, 2018 14:26:35 GMT
Each to there own , I’ve said since day 1 the team has no defined shape , never ever looks in control of a game and will get 52 points I’ve seen nothing to change that view. So you wrote the gaffer off from day one? Fair innit. Explains your negativity though. I said it was an appointment to keep us in the championship as that’s what his CV. Says and that’s what he is doing , I think after 10 years in the top flight with circa £0.5billion of revenue and a colossally successful parent co owner which dwarfs many in the premier league we could reasonsbly expected to show more ambition were we to have a competent off field exec leadership team .
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 12, 2018 14:36:55 GMT
Getting 9 points out of the last 6 games whilst only actually scoring 2 goals ourselves is a quite phenomenal achievement. Scary as fuck but quite remarkable really! Not entirely surprising that we’re scoring so few when you look at the stats, is it. Last 6 games we’ve had 15 shots on target. Not even 3 per game. Our opponents have totalled 30 in that time and in every game, home or away, had more shots on target than us. I just don’t know where people see this great upturn in form coming from without a radical change of tactics. Our current approach just isn’t sustainable.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 12, 2018 14:56:07 GMT
Getting 9 points out of the last 6 games whilst only actually scoring 2 goals ourselves is a quite phenomenal achievement. Scary as fuck but quite remarkable really! Not entirely surprising that we’re scoring so few when you look at the stats, is it. Last 6 games we’ve had 15 shots on target. Not even 3 per game. Our opponents have totalled 30 in that time and in every game, home or away, had more shots on target than us. I just don’t know where people see this great upturn in form coming from without a radical change of tactics. Our current approach just isn’t sustainable. Yep. If we carry on at the same rate in the next six games we really will be cut adrift.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Nov 12, 2018 14:58:36 GMT
first two go tits up and I suspect there might be some action from the owners Which you'll be saying every week now for x number of months/years until he goes and then you'll tell us all what an expert you must be for predicting it. Different manager but same MO from benji!
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 12, 2018 15:09:17 GMT
first two go tits up and I suspect there might be some action from the owners Which you'll be saying every week now for x number of months/years until he goes and then you'll tell us all what an expert you must be for predicting it. Different manager but same MO from benji! Benji is the archetypal broken clock
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Nov 12, 2018 15:45:58 GMT
I must have missed the good run , for me it’s just been shocking , downright appalling , or woeful , albeit I grant you on the scale of atrocious , we are are slightly less shit than we were in September. Absolute bollocks Why is it bollox? We are slightly less shite than September. We are absolutely woeful and have a manager who is pinching a living. He has spent 50 million and we are as bad as last season, in a far worse league?? The guy has the tactical nous of a garden allotment. We have no creativity, still have no bloody pace and are still as laborious in our build up play as we were under LMH (possibly even more so). The guy is a fraud.
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 15:59:11 GMT
Why is it bollox? We are slightly less shite than September. We are absolutely woeful and have a manager who is pinching a living. He has spent 50 million and we are as bad as last season, in a far worse league?? The guy has the tactical nous of a garden allotment. We have no creativity, still have no bloody pace and are still as laborious in our build up play as we were under LMH (possibly even more so). The guy is a fraud. More bollocks... How is 1 defeat in our last 8 games "slightly less shite than September"? We are not as bad as last season at all. We've had some poor games, Wigan at home was appalling but Rowett is turning it around. We got turned over plenty in the last 18 months and neither Hughes nor Lambert improved that. Tactical nouse of a garden allotment? His record speaks for it's self. Clueless people on here just don't like him without much reason and will use any excuse to have a pop at him. So yeah, it's absolute bollocks. We should be doing better than we are, but to say it's woeful and he's "stealing a living" is just ridiculous.
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Post by RF10 on Nov 12, 2018 16:01:54 GMT
Without having a shot of our own on target. You reckon if we played that game again, we'd get the same result? Couldn't careless we scored, they didn't. We won. If you play every game again the result may be different.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 12, 2018 19:22:34 GMT
Why is it bollox? We are slightly less shite than September. We are absolutely woeful and have a manager who is pinching a living. He has spent 50 million and we are as bad as last season, in a far worse league?? The guy has the tactical nous of a garden allotment. We have no creativity, still have no bloody pace and are still as laborious in our build up play as we were under LMH (possibly even more so). The guy is a fraud. More bollocks... How is 1 defeat in our last 8 games "slightly less shite than September"? We are not as bad as last season at all. We've had some poor games, Wigan at home was appalling but Rowett is turning it around. We got turned over plenty in the last 18 months and neither Hughes nor Lambert improved that. Tactical nouse of a garden allotment? His record speaks for it's self. Clueless people on here just don't like him without much reason and will use any excuse to have a pop at him. So yeah, it's absolute bollocks. We should be doing better than we are, but to say it's woeful and he's "stealing a living" is just ridiculous. Turning it around? Ok, how would you feel if the next five games are like our last five, eg 6 points, 2 goals, about 6 shots on target? Would you have doubts about Rowett then?
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