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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 10:32:26 GMT
We're averaging 1.29 points per game, 59 for the season.
At that average it is just over 6 points from the next 5 games.
I think we'll increase our average to get around 8 points from the 5 games.
QPR 3
Derby 1
Ipswich 3
Reading 1
Villa 0
We'll score around 4 goals.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 12, 2018 10:42:49 GMT
first two go tits up and I suspect there might be some action from the owners Suspect or hope Benji? Hope |
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Post by stokeson on Nov 12, 2018 11:04:30 GMT
If Rowett gets 15pts from 5 he will be manager of the month.........
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Post by Gods on Nov 12, 2018 11:27:41 GMT
It sounds ridiculous demanding 4 wins from 5 when so far we have won 5 from 17 but at some point if we are to climb the table we will have to make our move and this is the sort of run of fixtures where it can be done.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 12, 2018 11:32:07 GMT
I must have missed the good run , for me it’s just been shocking , downright appalling , or woeful , albeit I grant you on the scale of atrocious , we are are slightly less shit than we were in September. Absolute bollocks Each to there own , I’ve said since day 1 the team has no defined shape , never ever looks in control of a game and will get 52 points I’ve seen nothing to change that view. |
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 11:33:53 GMT
Each to there own , I’ve said since day 1 the team has no defined shape , never ever looks in control of a game and will get 52 points I’ve seen nothing to change that view. So you wrote the gaffer off from day one? Fair innit. Explains your negativity though. |
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Post by Davef on Nov 12, 2018 11:41:12 GMT
Each to there own , I’ve said since day 1 the team has no defined shape , never ever looks in control of a game and will get 52 points I’ve seen nothing to change that view. To be fair, you were bang on with that "Clucas will never play for this manager" prediction. Oh, hang on, you weren't. |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 12, 2018 11:48:24 GMT
I'm quite pro-Rowett but this is a bit of a false comparison isn't it really? Unless we have a mid-80s Bryan Robson lying around somewhere. I think he'll come good, but we honestly don't have the luxury of 3 years. As soon as our parachute payments cease, the club will have to financially restructure and if we want promotion we'll have to do it the old fashioned way. I'm just saying sometimes it takes longer than you'd hope. Clearly if we're nowhere near promotion come may he'd have to go given the expenditure It did take Ferguson years to win titles/cups etc., but he started turning a very poor side around immediately. Having been appointed in November he took United to Liverpool and inflicted their only home defeat of the season. Rowett has been in charge since May and we have yet to see a 90 minute winning performance we can be proud of, in fact the opening months were absolutely disgraceful. It appears some people have given up already on the next 2 seasons, let alone this season. Since he arrived Rowett has done nothing to suggest we are anywhere near a promotion side and he appears to me to be out of his depth. If he can't achieve promotion with the squad at his disposal now, there is no chance in years to come. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 11:59:11 GMT
first two go tits up and I suspect there might be some action from the owners yawn |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 12, 2018 11:59:34 GMT
You talk far too much sense mate for this place😄👍 You would think the five wins from our opening 17 games would've provided people with enough perspective about how tough this league is by now wouldn't you - obviously not! For 'how tough this league is' read 'how utterly average we are' This an exceptionally average league, sadly we're an exceptionally average side. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 12, 2018 12:02:06 GMT
You would think the five wins from our opening 17 games would've provided people with enough perspective about how tough this league is by now wouldn't you - obviously not! For 'how tough this league is' read 'how utterly average we are' This an exceptionally average league, sadly we're an exceptionally average side. blame Mark Hughes for not allowing us to shift shovel loads of shite on top money. Not to mention nearly £60m in transfer fees down the shitter on a hand full of Shit players that are contributing zero to us today. Wimmer, imbula; Allen ( vastly over priced & over paid) and Berahino, the guy at one stage we bid 20 million for under Mark hughes |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 12, 2018 12:06:49 GMT
For 'how tough this league is' read 'how utterly average we are' This an exceptionally average league, sadly we're an exceptionally average side. blame Mark Hughes for not allowing us to shift shovel loads of shite on top money I don't really buy into this Rowett inherited a shit sandwich narrative. We are a shambles behind the scenes and the 'process' is utter garbage but even so, he really should be doing much, much better than he is. With nearly 40% of the season gone, he is failing miserably. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 12, 2018 12:08:32 GMT
blame Mark Hughes for not allowing us to shift shovel loads of shite on top money I don't really buy into this Rowett inherited a shit sandwich narrative. We are a shambles behind the scenes and the 'process' is utter garbage but even so, he really should be doing much, much better than he is. With nearly 40% of the season gone, he is failing miserably. don't agree, I don't think he's failing. I think he's steadied the ship following freefall. You have to crack an egg to make an omelette. Work in progress |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 12, 2018 12:11:36 GMT
I don't really buy into this Rowett inherited a shit sandwich narrative. We are a shambles behind the scenes and the 'process' is utter garbage but even so, he really should be doing much, much better than he is. With nearly 40% of the season gone, he is failing miserably. You have to crack an egg to make an omelette You have to score a goal to win a game! His approach to games is completely indefensible. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 12, 2018 12:13:07 GMT
You have to crack an egg to make an omelette You have to score a goal to win a game! His approach to games is completely indefensible. You also have to stop conceding them aswell which we are doing |
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 12:14:03 GMT
You have to crack an egg to make an omelette You have to score a goal to win a game! His approach to games is completely indefensible. We were scoring enough earlier in the season but not winning, you have to not concede 3/4 goals a game too. That's stopped, credit to Rowett. Now he needs to kick on and find the balance to get us scoring again. Patience is needed whether you like it or not. |
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Post by realstokebloke on Nov 12, 2018 12:16:12 GMT
Anything less than 15 points and rowett should walk |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 12, 2018 12:18:27 GMT
You have to score a goal to win a game! His approach to games is completely indefensible. We were scoring enough earlier in the season but not winning, you have to not concede 3/4 goals a game too. That's stopped, credit to Rowett. Now he needs to kick on and find the balance to get us scoring again. Patience is needed whether you like it or not. I don't like it. As the owners have said, the top 6 is the absolute minimum we should expect this season and we look miles short. Presumably when we miss out, Rowett will pay the price with his job. |
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 12:21:25 GMT
We were scoring enough earlier in the season but not winning, you have to not concede 3/4 goals a game too. That's stopped, credit to Rowett. Now he needs to kick on and find the balance to get us scoring again. Patience is needed whether you like it or not. I don't like it. As the owners have said, the top 6 is the absolute minimum we should expect this season and we look miles short. Presumably when we miss out, Rowett will pay the price with his job. Tough. We are 6 points off the top 6. 6 points. Hardly miles short, especially in this league. All this bedwetting has gotta stop. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 12, 2018 12:27:01 GMT
I don't like it. As the owners have said, the top 6 is the absolute minimum we should expect this season and we look miles short. Presumably when we miss out, Rowett will pay the price with his job. Tough. We are 6 points off the top 6. 6 points. Hardly miles short, especially in this league. All this bedwetting has gotta stop. Do you think we will do better than our 1 win in the last 5, and 5 wins in the last 17 games Mr Dre? |
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 12:30:06 GMT
Tough. We are 6 points off the top 6. 6 points. Hardly miles short, especially in this league. All this bedwetting has gotta stop. Do you think we will do better than our 1 win in the last 5, and 5 wins in the last 17 games Mr Dre? Sorry your question isn't very clear there... Are you asking if I think we'll get more than one win in our next five games? If so then yes, I do. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 12, 2018 12:30:14 GMT
I don't like it. As the owners have said, the top 6 is the absolute minimum we should expect this season and we look miles short. Presumably when we miss out, Rowett will pay the price with his job. Tough. We are 6 points off the top 6. 6 points. Hardly miles short, especially in this league. All this bedwetting has gotta stop. Oh the old fucking bedwetting nonsense. We have the biggest budget in the league and we're 11 points off top, 9 points off automatic and 6 points off the play offs after 40% of the season. Those gaps are actually pretty big and would take some turning round if we were any good, the fact that we're crap makes them fucking huge. The speed with which some supporters have embraced our mediocrity is startling. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 12, 2018 12:35:42 GMT
8 points. We simply haven't got it in us to win three on the bounce, let alone five. I am more than happy to have these words rammed down my throat at a later date but we neither have the conviction or will to go on a brilliant run.
Win two, draw two, lose one. Quite possibly in that order.
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 12, 2018 12:39:57 GMT
Tough. We are 6 points off the top 6. 6 points. Hardly miles short, especially in this league. All this bedwetting has gotta stop. Oh the old fucking bedwetting nonsense. We have the biggest budget in the league and we're 11 points off top, 9 points off automatic and 6 points off the play offs after 40% of the season. Those gaps are actually pretty big and would take some turning round if we were any good, the fact that we're crap makes them fucking huge. The speed with which some supporters have embraced our mediocrity is startling. It's not nonsense, the constant bedwetting on here is mad. I haven't accepted mediocrity at all, that's just the argument of the fucking bedwetters! You'll be saying I'm a happy clapper next which again couldn't be further from the truth. I'm far from over the moon with how we are doing but i'm realistic. So don't give me bollocks about embracing mediocrity to suit your argument cause that's just a load of shite so the rest of the moaning bastards on here will agree with your post. The fact is you're not being realistic. Rowett inherited an absolute shit show of a club and had to steady the ship before we can make progress, he's done that. We didn't even spend much in the summer once you've taken incoming transfer fee's into account and we struggled to get rid of most of the deadwood that he inherited, shows just how bad we are. He ca 't do right for many on here, people just don't like him without much reason. If you think 6 points is a massive gap to make up in the championship then you're wrong and you're deluded, sorry we are not top of the table and undefeated as that's the only thing that just MIGHT stop some people from moaning, not sure it would mind. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 12, 2018 12:45:03 GMT
Oh the old fucking bedwetting nonsense. We have the biggest budget in the league and we're 11 points off top, 9 points off automatic and 6 points off the play offs after 40% of the season. Those gaps are actually pretty big and would take some turning round if we were any good, the fact that we're crap makes them fucking huge. The speed with which some supporters have embraced our mediocrity is startling. It's not nonsense, the constant bedwetting on here is mad. I haven't accepted mediocrity at all, that's just the argument of the fucking bedwetters! You'll be saying I'm a happy clapper next which again couldn't be further from the truth. I'm far from over the moon with how we are doing but i'm realistic. So don't give me bollocks about embracing mediocrity to suit your argument cause that's just a load of shite so the rest of the moaning bastards on here will agree with your post. The fact is you're not being realistic. Rowett inherited an absolute shit show of a club and had to steady the ship before we can make progress, he's done that. We didn't even spend much in the summer once you've taken incoming transfer fee's into account and we struggled to get rid of most of the deadwood that he inherited, shows just how bad we are. He ca 't do right for many on here, people just don't like him without much reason. If you think 6 points is a massive gap to make up in the championship then you're wrong and you're deluded, sorry we are not top of the table and undefeated as that's the only thing that just MIGHT stop some people from moaning, not sure it would mind. Do you agree with Peter Coates that the top 6 is the bare minimum we should expect this season or is he being 'unrealistic' as well?  |
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Post by scfc75 on Nov 12, 2018 12:45:15 GMT
6 points off the top 6, 6 points off the bottom 3. With a negative goal difference.
A bit of maths for context of how big the task is.... if we avg 2pts a game for the next ten games, we’ll be on 42pts with 27 games gone. The team in 6th at the moment has averaged 1.65pts per game, and therefore will (using simple maths) be on 44/45pts after 27 games.
So, if we display the form of a top 2 side for the next 10 games, we probably still won’t be in the playoffs... we’ll pretty much need another 6 games beyond that to crawl into 6th spot, then of course we need to keep that form up to stay there.
It’s not a hill, it’s a mountain.
Happy Monday everybody.
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Post by s8to on Nov 12, 2018 12:46:29 GMT
first two go tits up and I suspect there might be some action from the owners I'll have you a £10 bet that Rowett sees the season out as manager of SCFC Are you Rowett then??  |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 12, 2018 12:49:31 GMT
Anything less than 15 points and rowett should walk I did actually almost write that! |
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Post by thevoid on Nov 12, 2018 12:50:22 GMT
I don't really buy into this Rowett inherited a shit sandwich narrative. We are a shambles behind the scenes and the 'process' is utter garbage but even so, he really should be doing much, much better than he is. With nearly 40% of the season gone, he is failing miserably. don't agree, I don't think he's failing. I think he's steadied the ship following freefall. You have to crack an egg to make an omelette. Work in progress Carrying on with the egg metaphor- So how come West Brom have got past the egg-cracking stage and have moved onto the recipe, considering their whisk was in a worse condition than ours a few months ago? Have they got a 'chef' in charge who knows what he's doing maybe? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 12, 2018 12:51:01 GMT
I don't like it. As the owners have said, the top 6 is the absolute minimum we should expect this season and we look miles short. Presumably when we miss out, Rowett will pay the price with his job. Tough. We are 6 points off the top 6. 6 points. Hardly miles short, especially in this league. All this bedwetting has gotta stop. I go on holiday on the day of the play off final so if we happen to get promoted via the Play offs, I will personally go down to the Brit and sack Rowett myself! |
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