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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 6, 2018 20:04:46 GMT
Bournemouth seems to have some interest in Joe Allen, should we let him go if we get a £15M+ bid from them? With Clucas fit again we have a lot of central midfielders able to do a good job, maybe just as good as Allen too.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Nov 6, 2018 20:06:23 GMT
Didnt we turn 20+ mill down not that long ago?
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Post by dastokie on Nov 6, 2018 20:10:46 GMT
With Woods and Etebo snap their hand off and give Bojan a license to roam
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 6, 2018 20:11:41 GMT
Didnt we turn 20+ mill down not that long ago? I don't know if we did, but we certainly didn't have Woods, Etebo and Clucas all available then. We also have Sørensen, Adam and Fletcher for those positions. We certainly need a couple of defenders, another winger and I would also love to see a quality target man brought in.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 6, 2018 20:15:23 GMT
I like Joe but if we can keep injury free he's part of the problem in that we have to many CM's who are too good to be on the bench.
Clucas, Etebo and Woods are good players in a 4231 or 433. Plus we have Sorenson and worst case scenario Adam and Fletcher.
If we can sell for in and around 20m we could hopefully reinvest in a CB, winger and another CM.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 6, 2018 20:38:58 GMT
We are struggling in the bottom half of the Championship, 6 points above a relegation, and some people think we can sell one of our best players and cover with a 30+ has been. Memories are short. Our problem is going to be holding on to our best players like Allen, Etebo, Butland, when the Prem. clubs come knocking, and bang goes any chance of promotion. Remember how long it took to get back to the top tier last time.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 6, 2018 20:42:05 GMT
The final insult bournemouth are poaching our better players , hang your heads in shame scholes and co three years ago they wouldn’t have dreamt it , now thanks to our own bewildering incompetence it’s a reality
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Post by Gods on Nov 6, 2018 20:47:33 GMT
If we need to save money on midfield players we'd be better off trying to get Adam and Fletch off the wage bill, neither of them get much playing time and both must be on a decent whack. Joe Allen actually does something for the money so I'd keep him if at all possible.
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Post by Davef on Nov 6, 2018 20:48:15 GMT
The final insult bournemouth are poaching our better players , hang your heads in shame scholes and co three years ago they wouldn’t have dreamt it , now thanks to our own bewildering incompetence it’s a reality Why don't you wait until something actually happens before you make a complete fool of yourself?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 6, 2018 20:51:37 GMT
The final insult bournemouth are poaching our better players , hang your heads in shame scholes and co three years ago they wouldn’t have dreamt it , now thanks to our own bewildering incompetence it’s a reality Why don't you wait until something actually happens before you make a complete fool of yourself? I will explain what’s happened bournemouth have gone from being promoted to a top seven team in four years by quality recruitment ,a real ambition never mentioning the dreaded sustainable but investing for growth in the same time we have gone from a top nine team to six points above the championship relegation zone , wasted millions and lost a £100 million revenue stream
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Post by Davef on Nov 6, 2018 20:53:34 GMT
Why don't you wait until something actually happens before you make a complete fool of yourself? I will explain what’s happened bournemouth have gone from being promoted to a top seven team in four years by quality recruitment ,a real ambition never mentioning the dreaded sustainable but investing for growth in the same time we have gone from a top nine team to six points above the championship relegation zone , wasted millions and lost a £100 million revenue stream Have they actually poached our player though?
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Post by neddy on Nov 6, 2018 20:54:49 GMT
I will explain what’s happened bournemouth have gone from being promoted to a top seven team in four years by quality recruitment ,a real ambition never mentioning the dreaded sustainable but investing for growth in the same time we have gone from a top nine team to six points above the championship relegation zone , wasted millions and lost a £100 million revenue stream Have they actually poached our player though? To be fair the rest is not far off though!
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Joe Allen
Nov 6, 2018 20:57:35 GMT
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Post by Davef on Nov 6, 2018 20:57:35 GMT
Have they actually poached our player though? To be fair the rest is not far off though! Not really his original, stupid point though was it?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 6, 2018 20:58:01 GMT
I will explain what’s happened bournemouth have gone from being promoted to a top seven team in four years by quality recruitment ,a real ambition never mentioning the dreaded sustainable but investing for growth in the same time we have gone from a top nine team to six points above the championship relegation zone , wasted millions and lost a £100 million revenue stream Have they actually poached our player though? No did they not go from promoted to top seven winning twice at the 365 in the process and helping send us down with victory at their own home last season , our performance compared to theirs is appalling and it’s and indication how far we’ve fallen that it’s even being speculated in the media .
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Joe Allen
Nov 6, 2018 20:59:17 GMT
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Post by Davef on Nov 6, 2018 20:59:17 GMT
Have they actually poached our player though? No did they not go from promoted to top seven winning twice at the 365 in the process and helping send us down with victory at their own home last season , our performance compared to theirs is appalling and it’s and indication how far we’ve fallen that it’s even being speculated in the media . So they've not poached our player then. Glad we've agreed on that.
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Nov 6, 2018 20:59:22 GMT
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Post by TexasPotter on Nov 6, 2018 20:59:22 GMT
With Woods and Etebo snap their hand off and give Bojan a license to roam Ditto. Think he's had his best run here. Seems lost and confused on the pitch these days. I'd get money to put back into the rebuild.
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Nov 6, 2018 21:03:13 GMT
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Post by neddy on Nov 6, 2018 21:03:13 GMT
To be fair the rest is not far off though! Not really his original, stupid point though was it? No it wasn’t just saying the other bit is appropriate.
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Nov 6, 2018 21:06:01 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 6, 2018 21:06:01 GMT
15 million for Joe Allen is fair and would enable us to get a genuine pacy/powerful attacking player.
Allen is our best midfielder but we need to rebalance. Obviously we also need a centre back in January at least.
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 6, 2018 21:18:17 GMT
sell
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Joe Allen
Nov 6, 2018 21:19:41 GMT
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Nov 6, 2018 21:19:41 GMT
With Woods and Etebo snap their hand off and give Bojan a license to roam Bojan does not have the defensive qualities of Joe and could leave us exposed!!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 6, 2018 21:33:54 GMT
With Woods and Etebo snap their hand off and give Bojan a license to roam Bojan does not have the defensive qualities of Joe and could leave us exposed!! So why does Rowett play Allen in advance of Bojan?
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Joe Allen
Nov 6, 2018 21:41:36 GMT
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Post by TexasPotter on Nov 6, 2018 21:41:36 GMT
Bojan does not have the defensive qualities of Joe and could leave us exposed!! So why does Rowett play Allen in advance of Bojan? We all know why... Idiotic tendencies and Rowett go hand in hand.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Nov 6, 2018 21:44:04 GMT
With Woods and Etebo snap their hand off and give Bojan a license to roam Bojan does not have the defensive qualities of Joe and could leave us exposed!! I think Bojan will go in January which will be disappointing. He's only getting 15 minute cameos here and there from Rowett which won't be enough to keep him happy. I'd take the money for Joe if a decent bid comes in.
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Post by Absolution on Nov 6, 2018 21:46:10 GMT
Bojan does not have the defensive qualities of Joe and could leave us exposed!! So why does Rowett play Allen in advance of Bojan? He runs where he wants He runs where he wants He’s Joe Allen, he runs where he wants.
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Post by heworksardtho on Nov 6, 2018 21:50:39 GMT
To be fair the rest is not far off though! Not really his original, stupid point though was it? He’s entitled to his opinions as is everybody else
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Post by Jimm on Nov 6, 2018 21:58:03 GMT
The worst business Stoke did in the summer was giving Joe a new contract
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Post by Glory Hunter on Nov 6, 2018 22:26:34 GMT
The worst business Stoke did in the summer was giving Joe a new contract What a joke this comment is. Bournemouth along with probably another dozen Prem clubs would love to have Joe, who pledged his future here with a long term contract. If only all our players worked as hard as he always does. I guess we will eventually have to kearn to appreciate him once he does leave, just like Arnie and £15/20m will be small compensation. So this is wind up comment (I hope) as the worst business was signing Maclean, and Joe's was one if our best pieces of business.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Nov 6, 2018 22:29:34 GMT
The worst business Stoke did in the summer was giving Joe a new contract What a joke this comment is. Bournemouth along with probably another dozen Prem clubs would love to have Joe, who pledged his future here with a long term contract. If only all our players worked as hard as he always does. I guess we will eventually have to kearn to appreciate him once he does leave, just like Arnie and £15/20m will be small compensation. So this is wind up comment (I hope) as the worst business was signing Maclean, and Joe's was one if our best pieces of business. 15million and let him go. He is bang average and Rowett may then use Bojan as an attacking midfielder instead of Allen!
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Post by Jimm on Nov 6, 2018 22:36:39 GMT
The worst business Stoke did in the summer was giving Joe a new contract What a joke this comment is. Bournemouth along with probably another dozen Prem clubs would love to have Joe, who pledged his future here with a long term contract. If only all our players worked as hard as he always does. I guess we will eventually have to kearn to appreciate him once he does leave, just like Arnie and £15/20m will be small compensation. So this is wind up comment (I hope) as the worst business was signing Maclean, and Joe's was one if our best pieces of business. You honestly believe Joe leaving would leave a massive hole like the one's left when Arnie and Nzonzi went?? He offers nothing in an attacking position, where he's mainly played. Also to have Bojan and Allen on the pitch at the same time and put Allen further forward is absolute insanity.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 6, 2018 22:37:33 GMT
Allen is quality but he'll never be used properly at stoke, and Clucas and Woods are both holding midfielders, or in the case of the former, several positions but played his best season as a holding midfielder.
If we were to sell Allen, Bauer, Diouf this January and bring in 20-25 million could anyone argue with that? All three would do a job in the premier league and at the same time we need different players in different positions and could spend it on a pacy attacking player and a centre back.
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