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Post by GoBoks on Nov 5, 2018 17:02:35 GMT
7 Games to Mid Season. Ours are: Forest (A) QPR (H) Derby (H) Reading (A) Ipswich (H) Villa (A) Millwall (H) How many points would you be A) Satisifed with and B) Delighted with? I'd say A) 11 points and B) 16 points!  Of course in order to achieve 107 for the season, we can only drop 4 more points for the entire season!  |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 5, 2018 17:05:25 GMT
I'd be happy with 12 points by any means.
I'd be delighted with an extra 3 on top of that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 17:17:58 GMT
If we are serious about promotion we need a minimum of 4 wins out of that lot, preferably against the 4 teams above us in the table, but that's very unlikely.
A) 12
B) 18
What matters more to me is the point difference between ourselves and the top 2, if we've brought that gap down from the 9 points it's at currently (effectively 10 with goal difference taken into account) to something like 6 or 7 then I'll be happy.
I expect we will probably come away with 11 points and be further away from the top of the league, then the aim for the rest of the season will be to make it into the top 6. We need at least another CB and a winger in January if we are to persist with the current formation.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 5, 2018 17:32:17 GMT
That's about as benign a run of home games as you'll get in this league. 11 points would be very disappointing. If we have any pretensions remaining of promotion, it's got to be 15 points minimum.
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Post by GoBoks on Nov 5, 2018 17:36:56 GMT
That's about as benign a run of home games as you'll get in this league. 11 points would be very disappointing. If we have any pretensions remaining of promotion, it's got to be 15 points minimum. So you'd be satisfied with 15. How many to be delighted - 21? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 17:40:12 GMT
That's about as benign a run of home games as you'll get in this league. 11 points would be very disappointing. If we have any pretensions remaining of promotion, it's got to be 15 points minimum. So you'd be satisfied with 15. How many to be delighted - 21? Honestly, I don't know why people are still replying to him he's been on the windup for the best part of a week. He's looking for a reaction. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 5, 2018 17:45:14 GMT
That's about as benign a run of home games as you'll get in this league. 11 points would be very disappointing. If we have any pretensions remaining of promotion, it's got to be 15 points minimum. So you'd be satisfied with 15. How many to be delighted - 21? I'd be satisfied and delighted with 15. If we dont get 9 points out of those home games we want shooting really. We've used up any pissing about time now, we need to start trending at 2 points a game for the rest of the season starting now. If we're not good enough to do that then people will have failed at their jobs. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 5, 2018 17:46:38 GMT
So you'd be satisfied with 15. How many to be delighted - 21? Honestly, I don't know why people are still replying to him he's been on the windup for the best part of a week. He's looking for a reaction. OK what are you expecting Mr Mediocrity? |
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Post by cousindupree on Nov 5, 2018 18:03:10 GMT
To stand any chance in the promotion shake up will now have to be averaging 2 pts per game for the remaining 30. Very unlikely and looking at the next 7 I can't see past 4 draws 2 wins and a defeat, meaning 10 pts and falling further back. Unless the manager is prepared to be more adventurous, we are looking at around 65pts and midtable
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 18:09:37 GMT
Honestly, I don't know why people are still replying to him he's been on the windup for the best part of a week. He's looking for a reaction. OK what are you expecting Mr Mediocrity? How do you know my girlfriend's nickname for me? 12 points would be pretty decent, anything less would be disappointing and anything more would be great. After January when he is able to make the changes clearly needed my expectations will raise significantly. I'm surprised you're heaping so much blame on Rowett and so much significance i.e. managers. I was rejecting your stance of how badly run our club is for years but the last couple seasons have clearly shown you to be right, it's abhorrent. It's not Rowett's head I want, it's Scholes and Cartwright. |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Nov 6, 2018 9:39:00 GMT
14 point expected, 16 would be rather nice
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 9:44:59 GMT
Forest (A) 0
QPR (H) 1
Derby (H) 1
Reading (A) 1
Ipswich (H) 3
Villa (A) 0
Millwall (H) 3
9 points
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 6, 2018 9:51:56 GMT
OK what are you expecting Mr Mediocrity? How do you know my girlfriend's nickname for me? 12 points would be pretty decent, anything less would be disappointing and anything more would be great. After January when he is able to make the changes clearly needed my expectations will raise significantly. I'm surprised you're heaping so much blame on Rowett and so much significance i.e. managers. I was rejecting your stance of how badly run our club is for years but the last couple seasons have clearly shown you to be right, it's abhorrent. It's not Rowett's head I want, it's Scholes and Cartwright. I've given up hope of Scholes and Cartwright being canned. If they haven't been after the catastrophe of the past 3 years they never will be. Coates and his son are way too stubborn to admit that they've got things massively wrong. Even so, with the players available to him I think its easy to conclude that Rowett is doing a pretty poor job by any measure. We're bottom half and look bottom half. He has managed to suck any optimism out of the club and there is plenty of evidence that the job is too big for him. It was unfair that Hughes took the entire can whilst twat and twattier escaped any censure but it was still entirely correct that he went. Coates has set the measure that anything other than top six will be a failure and presumably the manager will be sacked if we don't achieve it. Right now I think we're miles off that. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 6, 2018 9:52:26 GMT
Forest (A) 0 QPR (H) 1 Derby (H) 1 Reading (A) 1 Ipswich (H) 3 Villa (A) 0 Millwall (H) 3 9 points Surely the Axe will follow if that's the case? |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 6, 2018 9:54:36 GMT
We are as flat as fuck. Bland plodders. We won't be anywhere near promotion this season.
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Post by Gods on Nov 6, 2018 9:58:32 GMT
The first one at Forest looks like a nailed on defeat.
We have a punchers chance of getting something from all the 6 matches after that.
I guess in the end we will finish up with about 11 points.
I think Joe's 'flat' description above describes us very nicely. There is just no real spark. It's almost like we need some eternal event or happening to kick start us in to life, at the moment it ain't happening and the season clock is ticking.
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Post by raythesailor on Nov 6, 2018 10:09:03 GMT
I can only see 13 points at best which is not very good.
Hope I am wrong. A sneaky win at Forrest might set us up for a change of fortunes. Time is running out and we need to start performing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 10:16:03 GMT
Forest (A) 0 QPR (H) 1 Derby (H) 1 Reading (A) 1 Ipswich (H) 3 Villa (A) 0 Millwall (H) 3 9 points Surely the Axe will follow if that's the case? You are talking to the wrong man Sheikh. Everything in my Stoke City world right now is lovely, pink and fluffy. We could be on the edge of the League One abyss and I'd happily stick some bells on my knees and dance round the statue at midnight. More Tio Pepe on your cornflakes, sir? |
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Post by upthefud on Nov 6, 2018 10:22:41 GMT
Forest (A) 1
QPR (H) 3
Derby (H) 1
Reading (A) 3
Ipswich (H) 3
Villa (A) 3
Millwall (H) 3
We aren't losing games. Our away form is good and we have good home fixtures.
Let's go for it
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 6, 2018 10:23:40 GMT
Anything less than 14 points is pretty much a disaster as that will put an end to any chance of making the play offs.
We aren't going to be doing much in the January window if we're too far off the pace. It's reaching shit or bust time for Gary.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 6, 2018 10:26:35 GMT
Can anyone seriously look at that set of fixtures and honestly say they don’t mind being in this utter unwashed arsehole of a league?
It doesn’t get much more depressing.
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Post by wuzza on Nov 6, 2018 10:43:41 GMT
Well according to some we’ve turned a corner and are improving game on game so I’m expecting the Millwall match to end at least 15-0.
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Post by musik on Nov 6, 2018 10:46:40 GMT
I'd be extremely disappointed with less than 15 points from those games.
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Post by rawli on Nov 6, 2018 10:48:07 GMT
Forest (A) 0 QPR (H) 1 Derby (H) 1 Reading (A) 1 Ipswich (H) 3 Villa (A) 0 Millwall (H) 3 9 points Surely the Axe will follow if that's the case? They'll give him the January window at least - and rightly so. |
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Post by Gods on Nov 6, 2018 10:54:32 GMT
Can anyone seriously look at that set of fixtures and honestly say they don’t mind being in this utter unwashed arsehole of a league? It doesn’t get much more depressing. 3 league title (now the Premier League) winners and 2 European Cup (now the Champions League) winners in that lot in my lifetime! |
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Post by upthefud on Nov 6, 2018 10:59:03 GMT
Can anyone seriously look at that set of fixtures and honestly say they don’t mind being in this utter unwashed arsehole of a league? It doesn’t get much more depressing. 3 midlands derbies against teams historically bigger than us. I'd take it over a similar run of: Cardiff (A) Watford (H) Bournemouth (H) Brighton (A) Palace (A) Fulham (H) Southampton (A) Huddersfield (A) |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 6, 2018 11:01:56 GMT
Surely the Axe will follow if that's the case? They'll give him the January window at least - and rightly so. If we get only 9 points from the next 21 available, the season will be all but over. We'll need nearly 50 points from 23 games to do anything at all. If the board are happy with that then they've changed their tune from their original season expectations. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 11:04:15 GMT
It’s starting to blag my head how quickly football seasons are coming and going. They seemed almost infinite when I was a kid. It’s definitely true what they say about time accelerating as you get older. You’re young for what seems like forever but then you become an adult and accelerate along the conveyor belt of life into the furnace of oblivion.
There’s a nice cheery thought for you all this grey Tuesday morning. You’re welcome.
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Post by shangamuzo on Nov 6, 2018 11:11:27 GMT
Forest (A) 0 QPR (H) 1 Derby (H) 1 Reading (A) 1 Ipswich (H) 3 Villa (A) 0 Millwall (H) 3 9 points Looks about right to me. |
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Post by rawli on Nov 6, 2018 11:14:04 GMT
They'll give him the January window at least - and rightly so. If we get only 9 points from the next 21 available, the season will be all but over. We'll need nearly 50 points from 23 games to do anything at all. If the board are happy with that then they've changed their tune from their original season expectations. I don't believe a word they say in their statements. Mealy mouthed shite to satisfy the easily led. |
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