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Post by mrred on Nov 3, 2018 14:44:32 GMT
Pulis disrespected us at every turn each time we've played against him, pulling every trick from the book of shithouse. Often right under the nose of his "good friend". Fuck right off.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 3, 2018 15:33:18 GMT
Pulis disrespected us at every turn each time we've played against him, pulling every trick from the book of shithouse. Often right under the nose of his "good friend". Fuck right off. Final post on this. I think it was the right time for him to go, But and it's a big But. If I was in Pulis shoes having spent 10 years investing his best years into getting us where we were I imagine I would be seriously pissed off when asked to move on especially as he would rightly or wrongly have felt he could turn it around. Like when people get made redundant involuntarily , they feel angry and bitter at their employer who they have given their best years too and they feel someway cheated. For the stuff after I give him a pass and I have no doubt when he looks back at his career his time at Stoke will be remembered fondly.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 3, 2018 15:35:49 GMT
Pulis disrespected us at every turn each time we've played against him, pulling every trick from the book of shithouse. Often right under the nose of his "good friend". Fuck right off. Final post on this. I think it was the right time for him to go, But and it's a big But. If I was in Pulis shoes having spent 10 years investing his best years into getting us where we were I imagine I would be seriously pissed off when asked to move on especially as he would rightly or wrongly have felt he could turn it around. Like when people get made redundant involuntarily , they feel angry and bitter at their employer who they have given their best years too and they feel someway cheated. For the stuff after I give him a pass and I have no doubt when he looks back at his career his time at Stoke will be remembered fondly. ‘Rightly or wrongly?’ Wrongly.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 3, 2018 15:41:23 GMT
Final post on this. I think it was the right time for him to go, But and it's a big But. If I was in Pulis shoes having spent 10 years investing his best years into getting us where we were I imagine I would be seriously pissed off when asked to move on especially as he would rightly or wrongly have felt he could turn it around. Like when people get made redundant involuntarily , they feel angry and bitter at their employer who they have given their best years too and they feel someway cheated. For the stuff after I give him a pass and I have no doubt when he looks back at his career his time at Stoke will be remembered fondly. ‘Rightly or wrongly?’ Wrongly. I thought he wouldn't, but I would expect a born leader like him self to have backed himself
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 3, 2018 15:44:47 GMT
‘Rightly or wrongly?’ Wrongly. I thought he wouldn't, but I would expect a born leader like him self to have backed himself I’m sure he did. Doesn’t mean he was correct.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 3, 2018 16:43:11 GMT
I thought he wouldn't, but I would expect a born leader like him self to have backed himself I’m sure he did. Doesn’t mean he was correct. Agreed. I just mean some of his behaviour following his departure is somewhat to be expected following what he would see as a rejection from a club that he felt he has served well and did both went to leave. Anyway I still am grateful for what he did for us. It was the right time for him to leave. That being said I'd prefer him to what we have now
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Post by riponstokie on Nov 3, 2018 20:56:44 GMT
Excellent Reception for the great man and a class post match interview from Stoke City's joint greatest ever manager. One Tony Pulis!!! I can't help but think how different this particular homecoming feels different from previous one's....... probably because GR has the utmost respect for what TP achieved at Stoke and the fact that the lazy, negligent twat that is Mark Hughes wasn't involved....... but hey ho, he did take us to the next level..................Thanks again Tony....forever grateful....... C'mon STOKE!
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 3, 2018 21:06:31 GMT
Excellent Reception for the great man and a class post match interview from Stoke City's joint greatest ever manager. One Tony Pulis!!! I can't help but think how different this particular homecoming feels different from previous one's....... probably because GR has the utmost respect for what TP achieved at Stoke and the fact that the lazy, negligent twat that is Mark Hughes wasn't involved....... but hey ho, he did take us to the next level..................Thanks again Tony....forever grateful....... C'mon STOKE! Did he mention steak and chips in this interview?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 3, 2018 21:06:49 GMT
Excellent Reception for the great man and a class post match interview from Stoke City's joint greatest ever manager. One Tony Pulis!!! I can't help but think how different this particular homecoming feels different from previous one's....... probably because GR has the utmost respect for what TP achieved at Stoke and the fact that the lazy, negligent twat that is Mark Hughes wasn't involved....... but hey ho, he did take us to the next level..................Thanks again Tony....forever grateful....... C'mon STOKE! Easiest days work Pulis has ever had with our feckless idiot of a manager.
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Post by rawli on Nov 4, 2018 13:54:30 GMT
Did his usual trick of waiting to run out on his own so he could be centre of attention. Great for our team to hear the opposition manager greeted like that.
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Post by senojbor on Nov 4, 2018 14:11:23 GMT
Great reception for a club legend. It's quite obvious that the messages on this board by a few big gobs doesn't reflect what the majority of Stoke fans think.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 4, 2018 14:22:09 GMT
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Post by wuzza on Nov 4, 2018 14:26:02 GMT
It was simply a very decent response representing the decency (and sanity) of the majority. The way it should be.
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Post by superheroantonius on Nov 4, 2018 15:38:50 GMT
Got rid of the clowns who had all but relegated us to the third tier of English football
Gave the club back it's pride and lead us to the prem
Achieved a lot of good things on and off the pitch ( Donna Louise)
But the story about recommending charlie Adam find a new club after his dad's suicide. Oh dear, not good.
Best to remember the good he did
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Post by greyman on Nov 4, 2018 18:58:18 GMT
Got rid of the clowns who had all but relegated us to the third tier of English football Gave the club back it's pride and lead us to the prem Achieved a lot of good things on and off the pitch ( Donna Louise) But the story about recommending charlie Adam find a new club after his dad's suicide. Oh dear, not good. Best to remember the good he did Leaving abusive phone messages for Ryan Shawcross. Cheering on his players to feign injury to get Stoke players sent off. Squaring up to Bojan. Leaking stories to the press about Berahino after his transfer. Hes an utter cunt. Did a good job and I'm glad he did, but now he's just another manager. I wouldn't boo him, or applaud him.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 5, 2018 7:42:52 GMT
Pretty sure I applauded even tho it was the last thing I wanted to do. A few people around me applauded something so I joined in thinking it was something to do with the military stuff, seems it was for that twat
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 5, 2018 7:58:04 GMT
Great reception for a club legend. It's quite obvious that the messages on this board by a few big gobs doesn't reflect what the majority of Stoke fans think. I have to say your terminology of “a few big gobs” made me chuckle.
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Post by mrred on Nov 5, 2018 10:10:02 GMT
Got rid of the clowns who had all but relegated us to the third tier of English football Gave the club back it's pride and lead us to the prem Achieved a lot of good things on and off the pitch ( Donna Louise) But the story about recommending charlie Adam find a new club after his dad's suicide. Oh dear, not good. Best to remember the good he did Leaving abusive phone messages for Ryan Shawcross. Cheering on his players to feign injury to get Stoke players sent off. Squaring up to Bojan. Leaking stories to the press about Berahino after his transfer. Hes an utter cunt. Did a good job and I'm glad he did, but now he's just another manager. I wouldn't boo him, or applaud him. Not to mention he was described by a high court judge as a compulsive liar as he tried to swindle millions of pounds from Palace. But yeah, his antics on the touchline with West Brom was enough for me.
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Post by rawli on Nov 5, 2018 10:19:51 GMT
He's got a Trump-like grip on our club - he's either loved or loathed and whatever he does won't alter anyone's stance.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 5, 2018 17:13:47 GMT
Final post on this. I think it was the right time for him to go, But and it's a big But. If I was in Pulis shoes having spent 10 years investing his best years into getting us where we were I imagine I would be seriously pissed off when asked to move on especially as he would rightly or wrongly have felt he could turn it around. Like when people get made redundant involuntarily , they feel angry and bitter at their employer who they have given their best years too and they feel someway cheated. For the stuff after I give him a pass and I have no doubt when he looks back at his career his time at Stoke will be remembered fondly. ‘Rightly or wrongly?’ Wrongly. Says who? Another season and he might have turned it around. The last season he had clearly lost his way, but our squad was paper thin (partly his fault). It kind of needed a rebuilding job.... perhaps he was the man? We'll never know.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 5, 2018 17:15:41 GMT
Excellent Reception for the great man and a class post match interview from Stoke City's joint greatest ever manager. One Tony Pulis!!! I can't help but think how different this particular homecoming feels different from previous one's....... probably because GR has the utmost respect for what TP achieved at Stoke and the fact that the lazy, negligent twat that is Mark Hughes wasn't involved....... but hey ho, he did take us to the next level..................Thanks again Tony....forever grateful....... C'mon STOKE! Easiest days work Pulis has ever had with our feckless idiot of a manager. Tony did what Tony does best. He saw what was going to be a difficult game, and set his team up not to lose. Did they lose? Call the guy a cunt, wanker, boring prick, whatever, but in actuality, he's simply a pragmatist. He turned up wanting a draw and nearly nicked a win. That's great management in my opinion. Rowett on the other hand, set us up properly and proceeded to make some strange substitutions which I'm not convinced aided us at all.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 5, 2018 17:25:42 GMT
Easiest days work Pulis has ever had with our feckless idiot of a manager. Tony did what Tony does best. He saw what was going to be a difficult game, and set his team up not to lose. Did they lose? Call the guy a cunt, wanker, boring prick, whatever, but in actuality, he's simply a pragmatist. He turned up wanting a draw and nearly nicked a win. That's great management in my opinion. Rowett on the other hand, set us up properly and proceeded to make some strange substitutions which I'm not convinced aided us at all. It's very competent management from a very competent manager. It would have been nice to test his under strength side a bit though, instead of compliantly playing exactly the way he wanted us to. We could have just saved everyone's time, shaken hands at the start and taken a point a piece. It would have helped cut the sectarianism to a minimum as well!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 5, 2018 17:44:10 GMT
‘Rightly or wrongly?’ Wrongly. Says who? Another season and he might have turned it around. The last season he had clearly lost his way, but our squad was paper thin (partly his fault). It kind of needed a rebuilding job.... perhaps he was the man? We'll never know. What was going to change? Was he suddenly going to start playing two wingers again or using pace again? There was zero evidence to suggest that.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 5, 2018 17:59:21 GMT
Leaving abusive phone messages for Ryan Shawcross. Cheering on his players to feign injury to get Stoke players sent off. Squaring up to Bojan. Leaking stories to the press about Berahino after his transfer. Hes an utter cunt. Did a good job and I'm glad he did, but now he's just another manager. I wouldn't boo him, or applaud him. In order: We don't know exactly how that phone call played out do we? Sparky claims Pulis called Ryan a loser. Pulis claimed he phoned and said "Ryan, you've never been like that, you can still be a loser while being a winner". Both sound a little contrived tbh. Don't forget Ryan was also being loyal to Sparky at that time. Oh come off it. You telling me our players are whiter than white? Never dive? Never cheat? Behave yourself mate. Pulis like most managers will use every shit house tactic in the book to win a match. We were dumb enough to repeatedly fall for his tricks. Not sure he really squared up to Bojan. Sounds like words were exchanged as opposed to anything else. The only one that I actually agree was a really nasty thing to do. However Bera didn't act brilliantly at West Brom. I suspect Tony was just taking one last opportunity to stick a knife deep in. It was a cunt move but meh, Bera was daft to get a drugs ban. Neither are innocent mate. As for calling him a cunt? He's still our second most successful manager on paper mate. Remember to tell your kids that our second most successful manager is a cunt.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 5, 2018 18:11:30 GMT
Tony did what Tony does best. He saw what was going to be a difficult game, and set his team up not to lose. Did they lose? Call the guy a cunt, wanker, boring prick, whatever, but in actuality, he's simply a pragmatist. He turned up wanting a draw and nearly nicked a win. That's great management in my opinion. Rowett on the other hand, set us up properly and proceeded to make some strange substitutions which I'm not convinced aided us at all. It's very competent management from a very competent manager. It would have been nice to test his under strength side a bit though, instead of compliantly playing exactly the way he wanted us to. We could have just saved everyone's time, shaken hands at the start and taken a point a piece. It would have helped cut the sectarianism to a minimum as well! That isn't how Tony conducts his business though, is it? He was never going to send them out intent on going for it. Says who? Another season and he might have turned it around. The last season he had clearly lost his way, but our squad was paper thin (partly his fault). It kind of needed a rebuilding job.... perhaps he was the man? We'll never know. What was going to change? Was he suddenly going to start playing two wingers again or using pace again? There was zero evidence to suggest that. No idea, I'm not a mind reader mate. I'll tell you this though: Kightly had come in and was dog shit, Etherington was struggling with injuries and Pennant was in and out the club wasn't he? It was a mishmash season that nearly culminated in our relegation. We had a paper thin squad and up until QPR gifted us 3 points, there was a very real chance we could drop. I suspect Pulis knew all this going into the summer, but obviously the writing was on the wall. Was it Tony's fault that we found ourselves in that situation in our final season? Probably. Too many weak signings like Brek Shea, Jamie Ness and Michael Kightly. However, he also signed N'Zonzi, Geoff Cameron and Jack Butland. It was a confused season though, granted.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 5, 2018 18:54:37 GMT
It's very competent management from a very competent manager. It would have been nice to test his under strength side a bit though, instead of compliantly playing exactly the way he wanted us to. We could have just saved everyone's time, shaken hands at the start and taken a point a piece. It would have helped cut the sectarianism to a minimum as well! That isn't how Tony conducts his business though, is it? He was never going to send them out intent on going for it. What was going to change? Was he suddenly going to start playing two wingers again or using pace again? There was zero evidence to suggest that. No idea, I'm not a mind reader mate. I'll tell you this though: Kightly had come in and was dog shit, Etherington was struggling with injuries and Pennant was in and out the club wasn't he? It was a mishmash season that nearly culminated in our relegation. We had a paper thin squad and up until QPR gifted us 3 points, there was a very real chance we could drop. I suspect Pulis knew all this going into the summer, but obviously the writing was on the wall. Was it Tony's fault that we found ourselves in that situation in our final season? Probably. Too many weak signings like Brek Shea, Jamie Ness and Michael Kightly. However, he also signed N'Zonzi, Geoff Cameron and Jack Butland. It was a confused season though, granted. Yes it was entirely his fault.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 5, 2018 18:56:20 GMT
That isn't how Tony conducts his business though, is it? He was never going to send them out intent on going for it. No idea, I'm not a mind reader mate. I'll tell you this though: Kightly had come in and was dog shit, Etherington was struggling with injuries and Pennant was in and out the club wasn't he? It was a mishmash season that nearly culminated in our relegation. We had a paper thin squad and up until QPR gifted us 3 points, there was a very real chance we could drop. I suspect Pulis knew all this going into the summer, but obviously the writing was on the wall. Was it Tony's fault that we found ourselves in that situation in our final season? Probably. Too many weak signings like Brek Shea, Jamie Ness and Michael Kightly. However, he also signed N'Zonzi, Geoff Cameron and Jack Butland. It was a confused season though, granted. Yes it was entirely his fault. So you throw the baby out with the bathwater and assume he couldn't have repaired the damage and made us stronger? You just assume he would have allowed us to fall to pieces and get relegated? Listen to yourself bud. He's not stupid. Anything but, I suspect had he stayed he would have signed two or three decent wingers in the transfer window. We had the spine of a good side, we just didn't have the application or talent in areas that it mattered. Hughes added that, and look what happened.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 5, 2018 19:39:18 GMT
Yes it was entirely his fault. So you throw the baby out with the bathwater and assume he couldn't have repaired the damage and made us stronger? You just assume he would have allowed us to fall to pieces and get relegated? Listen to yourself bud. He's not stupid. Anything but, I suspect had he stayed he would have signed two or three decent wingers in the transfer window. We had the spine of a good side, we just didn't have the application or talent in areas that it mattered. Hughes added that, and look what happened. Again, what was the evidence he was going to do that? We’d been going backwards for 18 months, he’d systematically stripped the pace out of the side. He’d had four windows to sign a winger and the only one he brought in was Kightly, who was shit. So was he going to suddenly fix everything he’d broken despite not doing so when he had countless opportunities to do so? Was he going to miraculously pull himself out of a tailspin that had seen him fail to win 78% of his last 56 league games and just three of his last 14 signings play with any kind of regularity? Few managers put things right when they’ve been getting things wrong for so long.
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Post by eastyorksexile on Nov 5, 2018 22:24:17 GMT
Can’t we just move on from this shit, he did a great job in getting us promoted and established in the premiership, but couldn’t take us any further forward with his negative boring football (remember all the exciting close away games....not).
However we replaced him with the opposite extreme, no discipline, no clue and definitely no idea...
Now we have a potential TP clone, who I admit I was excited when we got him, only to now be totally disillusioned.
Hence my request we move on....
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Post by upthefud on Nov 6, 2018 1:02:13 GMT
He did great for us, I don't understand your issue. I was very happy with being a mid table team competing with the big boys and trips to Wembley and Europe. Certainly far happier than I've ever been supporting Stoke in my lifetime. People are very quick to forget what he did for us. We never competed with the big boys until Hughes arrived. What?
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