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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 1, 2018 20:09:36 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2018 20:19:36 GMT
I don't mind a manager talking one of his players up (and it was a fabulous finish on Saturday) but Sweet Jesus Gary! He 'makes good decisions on the pitch'?! The one thing that was obvious from the off was that his footballing brain had deteriorated as swiftly as his legs by the time he joined us. Utter nonsense. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 1, 2018 20:29:27 GMT
I don't mind a manager talking one of his players up (and it was a fabulous finish on Saturday) but Sweet Jesus Gary! He 'makes good decisions on the pitch'?! The one thing that was obvious from the off was that his footballing brain had deteriorated as swiftly as his legs by the time he joined us. Utter nonsense. I rarely disagree with you but do here. I watched Fletcher very closely in the cup game v Huddersfield and what really stood out for me was that his body just couldn't support what his brain wanted it to do. He always seemed to want to be in the right place but his legs wouldn't get him there at the right time. |
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Post by ursems2boots on Nov 1, 2018 20:34:36 GMT
Rowett comedy gold..
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2018 20:41:35 GMT
I don't mind a manager talking one of his players up (and it was a fabulous finish on Saturday) but Sweet Jesus Gary! He 'makes good decisions on the pitch'?! The one thing that was obvious from the off was that his footballing brain had deteriorated as swiftly as his legs by the time he joined us. Utter nonsense. I rarely disagree with you but do here. I watched Fletcher very closely in the cup game v Huddersfield and what really stood out for me was that his body just couldn't support what his brain wanted it to do. He always seemed to want to be in the right place but his legs wouldn't get him there at the right time. Dave, he was once a very decent player and I'm sure he retains a bit upstairs but since that kamikaze pass back when we were playing (well as it happens) against Chelsea early last season, his decision making has been crap. When he was getting plenty of games he was often AWOL as a CDM and gives the ball away like a menopausal bridesmaid spraying confetti at a wedding. Maybe the legs are the cause but they've fried the brain as well. Age is a cruel, cruel,thing. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 1, 2018 20:42:49 GMT
He made a good decision for the goal....
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 1, 2018 20:49:04 GMT
So is he hinting in a roundabout way that Fletcher still has a future at Stoke beyond this season???
Wouldn't surprise me with Rowett!!!
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 1, 2018 21:06:47 GMT
Fletcher was snapped up from West Brom and initially played competently, contrary to the word from WBA fans, until, as a post above pointed out, he had a stinker against Chelsea.
Despite consistently poor performances Hughes persisted with him until he eventually gave up on him.
Lambert brought Fletcher back into the side and again despite poor performances persisted with him until he gave up.
Rowett is now repeating the folly of his predecessors. We can see it, why can't the Stoke management?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 1, 2018 21:13:40 GMT
I don't mind a manager talking one of his players up (and it was a fabulous finish on Saturday) but Sweet Jesus Gary! He 'makes good decisions on the pitch'?! The one thing that was obvious from the off was that his footballing brain had deteriorated as swiftly as his legs by the time he joined us. Utter nonsense. I rarely disagree with you but do here. I watched Fletcher very closely in the cup game v Huddersfield and what really stood out for me was that his body just couldn't support what his brain wanted it to do. He always seemed to want to be in the right place but his legs wouldn't get him there at the right time. That's how I see it. When your body doesn't do what your brain wants it to do the body makes the brain look stupid. In games where the midfield is being closed down quickly Fletcher will be a liability but in games where he can make a bit of time and space for himself he can still be very effective. |
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Post by kustokie on Nov 1, 2018 21:27:27 GMT
Fletcher was snapped up from West Brom and initially played competently, contrary to the word from WBA fans, until, as a post above pointed out, he had a stinker against Chelsea. Despite consistently poor performances Hughes persisted with him until he eventually gave up on him. Lambert brought Fletcher back into the side and again despite poor performances persisted with him until he gave up. Rowett is now repeating the folly of his predecessors. We can see it, why can't the Stoke management? Maybe because we don’t see him in training. He must be doing something between games to impress the manager, because he doesn’t do much “on the day”. His goal was in some ways an unfortunate distraction because he wasn’t played as a striker he was just in the right place at the right time. |
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 1, 2018 21:49:59 GMT
Fletcher was snapped up from West Brom and initially played competently, contrary to the word from WBA fans, until, as a post above pointed out, he had a stinker against Chelsea. Despite consistently poor performances Hughes persisted with him until he eventually gave up on him. Lambert brought Fletcher back into the side and again despite poor performances persisted with him until he gave up. Rowett is now repeating the folly of his predecessors. We can see it, why can't the Stoke management? Maybe because we don’t see him in training. He must be doing something between games to impress the manager, because he doesn’t do much “on the day”. His goal was in some ways an unfortunate distraction because he wasn’t played as a striker he was just in the right place at the right time. He was in the right place because he was playing further forward than he normally does. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 21:50:00 GMT
So he's a cunt when he digs his players out in public and he's also a cunt when he bigs them up in public.
No agenda against our manager to see here folks, keep moving.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 1, 2018 21:56:08 GMT
Fletcher is a player with a good pedigree and (IMHO) played pretty well when he first came to us - then form took a dive. It's not returned really other than in odd flashes but that was some goal last week - if he starts to get his mojo back then I won't criticise Rowett for playing him.
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 1, 2018 21:58:39 GMT
So he's a cunt when he digs his players out in public and he's also a cunt when he bigs them up in public. No agenda against our manager to see here folks, keep moving. There are some fans who will never accept him.He can't do right for doing wrong.I don't understand the hostility towards him tbh and i fear his tenure here will not end well  |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 1, 2018 22:08:51 GMT
Is it any coincidence that his form tailed off after Scotland failed to qualify for the World Cup? Up until then he was doing OK! So he scored on satdee but his general play was of usual standard. Caught in possession twice from memory.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Nov 1, 2018 22:54:01 GMT
Is it any coincidence that his form tailed off after Scotland failed to qualify for the World Cup? Up until then he was doing OK! So he scored on satdee but his general play was of usual standard. Caught in possession twice from memory. Woods get caught in possession more than that.. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 1, 2018 23:09:58 GMT
Is it any coincidence that his form tailed off after Scotland failed to qualify for the World Cup? Up until then he was doing OK! So he scored on satdee but his general play was of usual standard. Caught in possession twice from memory. Woods get caught in possession more than that.. He didn't when he joined us, well not as noticeably, but with the right coaching he's now doing it more often!  |
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Post by onionman on Nov 2, 2018 3:32:36 GMT
If he's so clever, his brain should work out where he should stand to make up for having a rubbish body.
Rory Delap and Nigel Gleghorn were brilliant at it.
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Post by TexasPotter on Nov 2, 2018 4:42:05 GMT
So Gary is moving the criticism of him picking Fletcher obviously this preseason pushing out you know who and after starting like fucking shit as we all know he would for weeks he now says it’s unfair to criticize Darren after the fucker scores? Jesus, I’ve heard of Arsonists starting fires for attention but this guy takes the fuckin plot. I despise this guy, just a fucking mouth blower.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 2, 2018 6:13:44 GMT
Really! I almost feel the need to question him about how many games he has seen the last two seasons!  |
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Post by nott1 on Nov 2, 2018 7:11:21 GMT
So is he hinting in a roundabout way that Fletcher still has a future at Stoke beyond this season??? Wouldn't surprise me with Rowett!!! If that's true he won't have a future himself! |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 2, 2018 7:23:56 GMT
If Rowett said the sky was blue many would argue it was a shade of green. Said it before but a lot won t accept anything he says until we are top of the league because we have a god given right to be a mid table prem team.
Take no notice Gazza, crack on. 5 unbeaten hopefully 6 tomorrow 👍
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Nov 2, 2018 7:42:29 GMT
If Rowett said the sky was blue many would argue it was a shade of green. Said it before but a lot won t accept anything he says until we are top of the league because we have a god given right to be a mid table prem team. Take no notice Gazza, crack on. 5 unbeaten hopefully 6 tomorrow 👍 I'm glad there's others who share my view. Airing it however is a different matter and usually results in a sarcasm driven witch hunt. |
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Post by NassauDave on Nov 2, 2018 7:49:23 GMT
Is it any coincidence that his form tailed off after Scotland failed to qualify for the World Cup? Up until then he was doing OK! So he scored on satdee but his general play was of usual standard. Caught in possession twice from memory. Woods get caught in possession more than that.. Woods has been caught in possession a few times lately when he has had to pick the ball up far too deep in our half and then look up for someone making a quick break. The only thing is that we don’t break quickly and Woods has to hold on to the ball for too long before he gets tackled mob handed. Frustrating as fuck, and it will affect his game badly until Rowett has his teams moving out from the back with pace and purpose.... |
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Post by questionable on Nov 2, 2018 8:21:35 GMT
When Rowett first arrived at the club in my opinion he was a breath of fresh air and I genuinely thought he would bring about the end of the two poison pigs, however as time goes by everything he says is that of a person with serious delusional problems, he honestly believes his own shiit.
His verbal skills pretty much sum his management skills, dire.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 8:50:39 GMT
So our manager gives an opinion on one of his players and because some of the fans vehemently disagree he's a totally useless football manager?
Everyone knows Fletcher's limitations and Gary isn't exactly saying he's a world beater is he? And you really do have an agenda against the guy if you seriously believe from this article he's going to be picking Fletcher over Allen, Woods, Clucas and Etebo over the course of the season.
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 2, 2018 8:54:05 GMT
Fletcher WAS a player. You don't play that many games and that many big games under Fergie at United without being great. Few UTD fans at work all absolutely love him. But his days are long gone now...
While his footballing brain may still be great, his legs have completely gone. It's so blatantly obvious and it's painful to watch at times. Players can turn and get past him like he's not there and he looks like he's running through treacle when he's trying to win the ball back. I think he knows himself deep down that he's past it as he spends most of his time pointing at players close to him to move to people that he's closer to than they are.
He really needs to hang up his boots at the end of the season.
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Post by ProctorDre on Nov 2, 2018 8:55:32 GMT
So our manager gives an opinion on one of his players and because some of the fans vehemently disagree he's a totally useless football manager? Everyone knows Fletcher's limitations and Gary isn't exactly saying he's a world beater is he? And you really do have an agenda against the guy if you seriously believe from this article he's going to be picking Fletcher over Allen, Woods, Clucas and Etebo over the course of the season. Afraid so mate, there's some absolute whoppers on here. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2018 9:27:05 GMT
I don't mind a manager talking one of his players up (and it was a fabulous finish on Saturday) but Sweet Jesus Gary! He 'makes good decisions on the pitch'?! The one thing that was obvious from the off was that his footballing brain had deteriorated as swiftly as his legs by the time he joined us. Utter nonsense. I rarely disagree with you but do here. I watched Fletcher very closely in the cup game v Huddersfield and what really stood out for me was that his body just couldn't support what his brain wanted it to do. He always seemed to want to be in the right place but his legs wouldn't get him there at the right time. 100% Great football brain let down badly by his aging/slowing legs. That's why sometimes he looks a good player then fifteen minutes later he does something horrendous. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 2, 2018 9:36:06 GMT
So is he hinting in a roundabout way that Fletcher still has a future at Stoke beyond this season??? Wouldn't surprise me with Rowett!!! If that's true he won't have a future himself! With a bit of luck!!! |
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