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Post by essexstokey on Oct 31, 2018 20:38:33 GMT
Some quotes from peter on this on bbc website also explains some of the problems we are having with transfers at the moment link |
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 31, 2018 23:01:47 GMT
That’s Messi not coming to stoke then , PC has dogded a bullet
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 31, 2018 23:26:16 GMT
Some quotes from peter on this on bbc website also explains some of the problems we are having with transfers at the moment linkI really don't think watching McClean playing left wing instead of Arnautovic has anything to do with Brexit😀 |
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Post by Gods on Oct 31, 2018 23:47:43 GMT
Mr Coates was on the BBC 10 O'Clock news plonked on a seat in an empty Bet365 stadium espousing the challenges 'leave' will pose for English football in the top divisions. The BBC were at pains to point out that Mr. Coates was not aligned to local opinion which was strongly in favour of leave.
By way of 'balance' the BBC unleashed punchy South London geezer and Nigel Farrage wannabe, Simon Jordan, the former Palace Chairman on us who manfully tried to put a positive football related spin on leave.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Nov 1, 2018 4:02:39 GMT
Huh... lots of clubs don’t seem to have much issue with signing players from outside the EU and any British clubs that do, it is more to do with the FA than anything else (and if you’re a ‘big’ club).
So it will just the same for signing those within the EU post Brexit. I’m sure Peter is playing the political game (again) but I don’t agree that it will be an issue for the Premier League clubs, especially the top 6.
A positive I have noted is the stopping of signing U-18 players (but I’m sure there are exemptions) so that the likes of Chelsea do not stockpile youngsters willy nilly.
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Post by lordb on Nov 1, 2018 6:51:43 GMT
Lots more work permit shenanigans.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 1, 2018 7:31:36 GMT
Does it mean Wimmer and Imbula can't come back?  |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 1, 2018 7:32:05 GMT
If it means it’s harder to sign journeyman European players like bmi Eric and martina than it can only have a positive effect on the England international team
as more and more young home grown players would get valuable playing time
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 1, 2018 7:32:16 GMT
The one thing that the bbc don't seam to have included and what has not been addressed is the fact that once we are out of the eu that Bosmen's would/could no longer exist in the uk as this was a ruling by the European courts on restriction of trade something I raised about 2 years ago
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 1, 2018 7:34:44 GMT
The one thing that the bbc don't seam to have included and what has not been addressed is the fact that once we are out of the eu that Bosmen's would/could no longer exist in the uk as this was a ruling by the European courts on restriction of trade something I raised about 2 years ago Good anything that takes a little power out of agents hands is a good thing for me |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 1, 2018 7:49:43 GMT
Well, like most examples, it's not going to make things easier is it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 8:06:15 GMT
I wish he'd just shut the fuck up and sell up.
So glad he has no more of my money
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Post by cousindupree on Nov 1, 2018 8:14:31 GMT
Well the perspective from 'over the pond' here in the USA from following UK press is that nothing of the UK will exist after Brexit so maybe the premier league will have to relocate to the US  Seriously though everyday there is a story in the press about how bad it's going to be post Brexit....Housing Market collapse, food shortages, the cost of EVERYTHING is expected to rise, increase in crime due to no euro co-operation, isolated on an overcrowded island unable to travel because UK airlines not allowed over EU airspace, so no shite holidays in Benidorm, lack of investment in the UK will mean future pensions will be worthless.....I could go on. And some are worried about a trivial thing like football? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 1, 2018 8:32:26 GMT
If it means it’s harder to sign journeyman European players like bmi Eric and martina than it can only have a positive effect on the England international team as more and more young home grown players would get valuable playing time Not just journeymen. One thing Peter pointed out was that within the EU any club can sign youngsters under 18 from another EU country. Huth is but one example of a player who has been in England since his mid teens and who has never played professionally in his native country. We cannot sign under 18 players from outside the EU unless they happen to have an EU passport. Peter points out that if/when we leave the EU we will no longer be able to sign EU youngters into our Academy. Even our Academy has large numbers of teenage players from EU countries and the biggest clubs have even more. Presumably post Brexit we may end up playing millions to sign those players as we would have to wait until they were full professionals and pay their clubs a large fee. And the best of them will have been signed when under 18 by French, German and Spanish clubs. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 1, 2018 8:52:41 GMT
If it means it’s harder to sign journeyman European players like bmi Eric and martina than it can only have a positive effect on the England international team as more and more young home grown players would get valuable playing time Not just journeymen. One thing Peter pointed out was that within the EU any club can sign youngsters under 18 from another EU country. Huth is but one example of a player who has been in England since his mid teens and who has never played professionally in his native country. We cannot sign under 18 players from outside the EU unless they happen to have an EU passport. Peter points out that if/when we leave the EU we will no longer be able to sign EU youngters into our Academy. Even our Academy has large numbers of teenage players from EU countries and the biggest clubs have even more. Presumably post Brexit we may end up playing millions to sign those players as we would have to wait until they were full professionals and pay their clubs a large fee. And the best of them will have been signed when under 18 by French, German and Spanish clubs. Or we could get our scouts to find the next Smith, Pejic, Marsh, Bloor, Dodd, Wilkinson................. |
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Post by rawli on Nov 1, 2018 8:57:28 GMT
If it means it’s harder to sign journeyman European players like bmi Eric and martina than it can only have a positive effect on the England international team as more and more young home grown players would get valuable playing time Not just journeymen. One thing Peter pointed out was that within the EU any club can sign youngsters under 18 from another EU country. Huth is but one example of a player who has been in England since his mid teens and who has never played professionally in his native country. We cannot sign under 18 players from outside the EU unless they happen to have an EU passport. Peter points out that if/when we leave the EU we will no longer be able to sign EU youngters into our Academy. Even our Academy has large numbers of teenage players from EU countries and the biggest clubs have even more. Presumably post Brexit we may end up playing millions to sign those players as we would have to wait until they were full professionals and pay their clubs a large fee. And the best of them will have been signed when under 18 by French, German and Spanish clubs. See that as a positive tbh. Youth players who have a connection with the club and the area is no bad thing. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Nov 1, 2018 9:10:38 GMT
Hopefully English players will be at a premium and clubs will be forced to take the youth system seriously
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 9:14:58 GMT
For me, for once the prob with stoke city is not the eu.....it's far loser to home
I don't know what the fuss is about
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Post by mickey2693 on Nov 1, 2018 9:19:28 GMT
I wish he'd just shut the fuck up and sell up. So glad he has no more of my money It'll be a miserly Christmas in the Coates household then |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 1, 2018 9:26:41 GMT
He does talk some shit about Brexit.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 1, 2018 9:27:18 GMT
If it means it’s harder to sign journeyman European players like bmi Eric and martina than it can only have a positive effect on the England international team as more and more young home grown players would get valuable playing time Not just journeymen. One thing Peter pointed out was that within the EU any club can sign youngsters under 18 from another EU country. Huth is but one example of a player who has been in England since his mid teens and who has never played professionally in his native country. We cannot sign under 18 players from outside the EU unless they happen to have an EU passport. Peter points out that if/when we leave the EU we will no longer be able to sign EU youngters into our Academy. Even our Academy has large numbers of teenage players from EU countries and the biggest clubs have even more. Presumably post Brexit we may end up playing millions to sign those players as we would have to wait until they were full professionals and pay their clubs a large fee. And the best of them will have been signed when under 18 by French, German and Spanish clubs. Well I shall not be losing any sleep over it after ten years of premiership riches I am yet to see the hordes of exciting young European footballers plying their trade as first team players at stoke And before any comments I’m yet to see many British youngsters either Either our scouting network is to talent spotting what diouf is to first touches or the whole system is a complete waste of money |
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 1, 2018 9:31:15 GMT
If it means it’s harder to sign journeyman European players like bmi Eric and martina than it can only have a positive effect on the England international team as more and more young home grown players would get valuable playing time Not just journeymen. One thing Peter pointed out was that within the EU any club can sign youngsters under 18 from another EU country. Huth is but one example of a player who has been in England since his mid teens and who has never played professionally in his native country. We cannot sign under 18 players from outside the EU unless they happen to have an EU passport. Peter points out that if/when we leave the EU we will no longer be able to sign EU youngters into our Academy. Even our Academy has large numbers of teenage players from EU countries and the biggest clubs have even more. Presumably post Brexit we may end up playing millions to sign those players as we would have to wait until they were full professionals and pay their clubs a large fee. And the best of them will have been signed when under 18 by French, German and Spanish clubs. Or the FA could just adapt their rules to the changing times.  |
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Post by raythesailor on Nov 1, 2018 9:36:09 GMT
Not just journeymen. One thing Peter pointed out was that within the EU any club can sign youngsters under 18 from another EU country. Huth is but one example of a player who has been in England since his mid teens and who has never played professionally in his native country. We cannot sign under 18 players from outside the EU unless they happen to have an EU passport. Peter points out that if/when we leave the EU we will no longer be able to sign EU youngters into our Academy. Even our Academy has large numbers of teenage players from EU countries and the biggest clubs have even more. Presumably post Brexit we may end up playing millions to sign those players as we would have to wait until they were full professionals and pay their clubs a large fee. And the best of them will have been signed when under 18 by French, German and Spanish clubs. Or the FA could just adapt their rules to the changing times. Exactly. A media non story merely speculating and looking for possible problems. Same with race horses. If the authority’s and politicians agree it there should be no or only small problems. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Nov 1, 2018 9:38:17 GMT
Well the perspective from 'over the pond' here in the USA from following UK press is that nothing of the UK will exist after Brexit so maybe the premier league will have to relocate to the US Seriously though everyday there is a story in the press about how bad it's going to be post Brexit....Housing Market collapse, food shortages, the cost of EVERYTHING is expected to rise, increase in crime due to no euro co-operation, isolated on an overcrowded island unable to travel because UK airlines not allowed over EU airspace, so no shite holidays in Benidorm, lack of investment in the UK will mean future pensions will be worthless.....I could go on. And some are worried about a trivial thing like football? Well the perspective here in that quaint little old United Kingdom of England is that America and the citizens who voted for its Emperor are raving lunatics ! Don’t you realise that he’s walking around with some kind of mutant rodent on his head and that he is the Tango man ? Once we are free from propping up the financial markets of Europe we are cutting the umbilical cord of the Euro tunnel, lifting the draw bridge and pulling the anchor up. This once great maritime nation is going to declare Piracy on the world, we on a course of rape and pillage and we are coming for you first America ! We remember the lend lease deal you shafted us with in WW2, we do the fighting then you jump in at the end and take all the glory, then we pay you for the privilege ? Well we want our money back, or we leave you with Piers Morgan & Simon Callow . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 9:38:52 GMT
I wish he'd just shut the fuck up and sell up. So glad he has no more of my money So am I, if that’s your attitude. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 1, 2018 9:42:58 GMT
Well the perspective from 'over the pond' here in the USA from following UK press is that nothing of the UK will exist after Brexit so maybe the premier league will have to relocate to the US Seriously though everyday there is a story in the press about how bad it's going to be post Brexit....Housing Market collapse, food shortages, the cost of EVERYTHING is expected to rise, increase in crime due to no euro co-operation, isolated on an overcrowded island unable to travel because UK airlines not allowed over EU airspace, so no shite holidays in Benidorm, lack of investment in the UK will mean future pensions will be worthless.....I could go on. And some are worried about a trivial thing like football? Well the perspective here in that quaint little old United Kingdom of England is that America and the citizens who voted for its Emperor are raving lunatics ! Don’t you realise that he’s walking around with some kind of mutant rodent on his head and that he is the Tango man ? Once we are free from propping up the financial markets of Europe we are cutting the umbilical cord of the Euro tunnel, lifting the draw bridge and pulling the anchor up. This once great maritime nation is going to declare Piracy on the world, we on a course of rape and pillage and we are coming for you first America ! We remember the lend lease deal you shafted us with in WW2, we do the fighting then you jump in at the end and take all the glory, then we pay you for the privilege ? Well we want our money back, or we leave you with Piers Morgan & Simon Callow . Didn’t realise trump had managed hull |
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Post by Admin on Nov 1, 2018 9:45:22 GMT
Stick to the topic please. Brexit's impact on football.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 1, 2018 9:48:30 GMT
Well the perspective from 'over the pond' here in the USA from following UK press is that nothing of the UK will exist after Brexit so maybe the premier league will have to relocate to the US Seriously though everyday there is a story in the press about how bad it's going to be post Brexit....Housing Market collapse, food shortages, the cost of EVERYTHING is expected to rise, increase in crime due to no euro co-operation, isolated on an overcrowded island unable to travel because UK airlines not allowed over EU airspace, so no shite holidays in Benidorm, lack of investment in the UK will mean future pensions will be worthless.....I could go on. And some are worried about a trivial thing like football? Well for all I care you can take the premiership circus any time you wish Any chance you can also keep those padded wannabe pansy ruby players as well |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 9:56:13 GMT
I'm pretty sure it will make no difference to the clubs when it comes to signing players, money talks, and those requiring work permits will surely get them considering the huge salary they will be on and their contribution to the UK economy.
The fans will suffer most as prices increase for things like food and drink at games, and with the value of the pound those travelling to European games (not that this is going to affect us any time soon) will get well and truly fucked over.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 9:57:02 GMT
Well the perspective from 'over the pond' here in the USA from following UK press is that nothing of the UK will exist after Brexit so maybe the premier league will have to relocate to the US Seriously though everyday there is a story in the press about how bad it's going to be post Brexit....Housing Market collapse, food shortages, the cost of EVERYTHING is expected to rise, increase in crime due to no euro co-operation, isolated on an overcrowded island unable to travel because UK airlines not allowed over EU airspace, so no shite holidays in Benidorm, lack of investment in the UK will mean future pensions will be worthless.....I could go on. And some are worried about a trivial thing like football? Dude, But its Fox news  I don't watch either them or CNN. My local KTNV isn't bad and one of the main presenters has lovely tits  GD |
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