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Post by scfc1863 on Oct 30, 2018 10:41:07 GMT
Thought Man City looked good on the offence when they got to the end zone, they just play real good soccer. 🏈
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Post by nenepotter on Oct 30, 2018 10:53:26 GMT
Thought Man City looked good on the offence when they got to the end zone, they just play real good soccer. 🏈 The Hotspur deefense up against anti clockwise phantom footswings
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 30, 2018 11:13:01 GMT
Retractable pitch at the new Spurs stadium, so they could play day after no problems. Ah, thanks for that - so the NFL pitch is presumably artificial? Sounds like White Hart Lane is going to be what Wembley should have been. A retractable grass pitch with an artificial alternate doesn't just mean it is easy to play NFL there - it also means that large amounts of events like boxing, concerts etc. etc. can be staged without any worries. Well done Spurs. However, I have a feeling that it will be a new manager who gets the benefit with Poch being the #1 target for Real Madrid. Tottenham's new ground does indeed have different pitches for the different sports. An artificial NFL pitch which sits on the bottom, then a retractable grass pitch which sits underneath the stand whilst NFL is taking place, then gets moved out in 3 sections to sit ontop of the NFL pitch when they're ready for football. The stadium is also set-up with football dressing rooms & tunnel etc... on one side, and NFL dressing rooms & tunnel on the other. Ironically atleast one of the NFL games this season were due to be played at Tottenham's ground, but because it wasn't ready they got switched to Wembley.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 11:27:32 GMT
NFL crap. Followed by f'ing basketball. Wouldn't go next door to watch it for free. Stick it up your jacksies yanks!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 30, 2018 12:49:38 GMT
NFL crap. Followed by f'ing basketball. Wouldn't go next door to watch it for free. Stick it up your jacksies yanks! You are entitled to your opinion - but in the context of this debate it is irrelevant. I don't watch NFL either - but it is quite clear from the crowds it attracts to games played in this country, that substantial numbers of Brits DO follow the NFL and are prepared to pay good money to watch live games. If there is money to be made from NFL games then I can quite understand why Wembley and Spurs have chosen to put them on. However, this week's, pitch problems at Wembley suggest that the Spurs business model (at the new White Hart Lane) is more sustainable than the Wembley model. I have never been that impressed with the design of Wembley since the incident of the "Wally with the Brolly" at one of the first games at the new stadium. To have that huge arch and still end up with the technical areas being open to the elements is a disgrace. And the state of the pitch this week suggests that there are many things wrong with what is supposed to be a NATIONAL stadium suitable for MULTI USE. It really is not fit for purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 13:00:51 GMT
Spurs’ stadium contractors fault, the NFL fixtures were in the diary long before tonight was... Playing a premier league football match on a surface used for NFL just the day before was madness, it should have been rescheduled a long time ago. NFL matches have been played at Wembley for 5 years now, they regularly fill the stadium (around 86000 there on Sunday)and it makes sense for them to continue to play games there provided adequate time is left before hosting football matches on the same pitch. Spurs only have themselves to blame, it's just as well they lost the game as it is not fair on any opposition team having to play on that surface in the richest league in the world.
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Post by rawli on Oct 30, 2018 13:46:38 GMT
Retractable pitch at the new Spurs stadium, so they could play day after no problems. Ah, thanks for that - so the NFL pitch is presumably artificial? Sounds like White Hart Lane is going to be what Wembley should have been. A retractable grass pitch with an artificial alternate doesn't just mean it is easy to play NFL there - it also means that large amounts of events like boxing, concerts etc. etc. can be staged without any worries. Well done Spurs. However, I have a feeling that it will be a new manager who gets the benefit with Poch being the #1 target for Real Madrid. If this works it's an amazing engineering feat.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Oct 30, 2018 13:49:53 GMT
NFL crap. Followed by f'ing basketball. Wouldn't go next door to watch it for free. Stick it up your jacksies yanks! You are entitled to your opinion - but in the context of this debate it is irrelevant. I don't watch NFL either - but it is quite clear from the crowds it attracts to games played in this country, that substantial numbers of Brits DO follow the NFL and are prepared to pay good money to watch live games. If there is money to be made from NFL games then I can quite understand why Wembley and Spurs have chosen to put them on. However, this week's, pitch problems at Wembley suggest that the Spurs business model (at the new White Hart Lane) is more sustainable than the Wembley model. I have never been that impressed with the design of Wembley since the incident of the "Wally with the Brolly" at one of the first games at the new stadium. To have that huge arch and still end up with the technical areas being open to the elements is a disgrace. And the state of the pitch this week suggests that there are many things wrong with what is supposed to be a NATIONAL stadium suitable for MULTI USE. It really is not fit for purpose. I like NFL... isn’t there a plan to have a London NFL team as has been mooted on the grapevine? Perhaps they will be based at Tottenham’s ground? London Spurs?
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Post by stokeyank on Oct 30, 2018 16:00:56 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion - but in the context of this debate it is irrelevant. I don't watch NFL either - but it is quite clear from the crowds it attracts to games played in this country, that substantial numbers of Brits DO follow the NFL and are prepared to pay good money to watch live games. If there is money to be made from NFL games then I can quite understand why Wembley and Spurs have chosen to put them on. However, this week's, pitch problems at Wembley suggest that the Spurs business model (at the new White Hart Lane) is more sustainable than the Wembley model. I have never been that impressed with the design of Wembley since the incident of the "Wally with the Brolly" at one of the first games at the new stadium. To have that huge arch and still end up with the technical areas being open to the elements is a disgrace. And the state of the pitch this week suggests that there are many things wrong with what is supposed to be a NATIONAL stadium suitable for MULTI USE. It really is not fit for purpose. I like NFL... isn’t there a plan to have a London NFL team as has been mooted on the grapevine? Perhaps they will be based at Tottenham’s ground? London Spurs? I don't watch much NFL (though I do watch college american football), but they are trying to figure out the logistics of London and Mexico City NFL teams. The main issue for both is the fields and the larger issue for London is travel. They want to do this since they have declining viewership in the US and want to keep the money flowing. They see London as close enough to make the travel work and populated enough to make it profitable to expand to Europe.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 18:51:22 GMT
They don't even touch the ball down, give me rugby league any day!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 19:06:01 GMT
I was chatting with the Ref this morning and he joking about the state of the pitch, but there are more NFL games to come.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 30, 2018 20:40:09 GMT
Tramlines reminded me of Pulis narrowing our pitch much to Wengers annoyance - highly amusing and actually pretty effective some days!!!
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Post by AlliG on Oct 30, 2018 20:53:53 GMT
To be fair, I watched the NFL game on Sunday and the centre of the pitch looked like a park pitch in April before the game even kicked off. I think the bigger problem is that for the money it cost to build Wembley, ensuring that the pitch is always in perfect condition appears to have been right at the bottom of the list of priorities. As it was always planned that Wembley was to be a multi-use stadium (concerts, Rugby League, NFL etc) more thought (and money) a proper solution to the problem should have been built into the plans. All it needs now is to hold the Horse of the Year Show there again. www.bing.com/videos/search?q=arsenal+v+swindon+1969&&view=detail&mid=25616049846C3B238C8325616049846C3B238C83&&FORM=VRDGAR
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Post by marylandstoke on Oct 30, 2018 23:27:00 GMT
Be of no doubt. There will be a team based there somewhere. With the time difference it means there can be a 9 am game for the east coast time frame. At present the poor souls here have to wait for 1pm for their Sunday fix. That means 9am,1pm,4pm and the one, and sometimes two evening games at seven and ten.
The fun over here for us supporters is who you may get. Jags are a good bet. My beloved Redskins may be in the frame if you like a flutter on an outsider.
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Post by marylandstoke on Oct 30, 2018 23:29:22 GMT
As a ps to the above I, personally, on my own think Spurs should, at this point, play their home games at the away venue.
Just me
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Post by Mendicant on Nov 2, 2018 19:13:23 GMT
Be of no doubt. There will be a team based there somewhere. With the time difference it means there can be a 9 am game for the east coast time frame. At present the poor souls here have to wait for 1pm for their Sunday fix. That means 9am,1pm,4pm and the one, and sometimes two evening games at seven and ten. The fun over here for us supporters is who you may get. Jags are a good bet. My beloved Redskins may be in the frame if you like a flutter on an outsider. Mate, I bet you a hot dog that San Antonio, Oklahoma City and Birmingham Alabama all get NFL teams before London. Logistics make it impossible.
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 2, 2018 20:44:55 GMT
Non of those venues give you that 5 hour time difference that the NFL are looking for. Logistics make it impossible? You would have to explain that to me. DC, New York, Philly, New England, closer/easier flights as flying East to San Fransiso, LA or Las Vegas plus, your flying on your own planes, it’s not like flying cattle class on a Delta. There is one story that, in the biggining the worst logistics problem was packing enough toilet paper as the teams didn’t trust London to have what they needed for their business. Definatly up for the hot dog bet though
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Post by Mendicant on Nov 3, 2018 22:49:55 GMT
Non of those venues give you that 5 hour time difference that the NFL are looking for. Logistics make it impossible? You would have to explain that to me. DC, New York, Philly, New England, closer/easier flights as flying East to San Fransiso, LA or Las Vegas plus, your flying on your own planes, it’s not like flying cattle class on a Delta. There is one story that, in the biggining the worst logistics problem was packing enough toilet paper as the teams didn’t trust London to have what they needed for their business. Definatly up for the hot dog bet though A west coast team travelling to London for a playoff game and then back for a game a week later would fly over Washington twice feeling really pleased for the Redskins. A London franchise could never be involved in playoff games. The Vikings complained about travelling to LA for a Thursday game this year because teams travelling two time zones on a short week are 1-10 with none making the spread. Seattle or LA to London and back would knacker the players even more and the games wouldn't be a fair contest. Franchises like the Chargers negotiate with city officials for stadium funding with the threat of relocation in the background. Now that LA and Las Vegas have teams, it's now a proposed London franchise that can loosen the purse strings.
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