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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 28, 2018 8:50:19 GMT
Really? You think a half empty ground looks good to the Bet 365 brand? I think you gave the real reason for the sacking in your 78% stat above! As for average attendances they barely moved an iota in the 8 Prem years prior the new corner build. Above statement made without checking ! Whether they moved or not, that's still very much the fear that motivates things. Your statement that falling season ticket sales has no bearing on anything isn't true. For all ticket revenue might not be important, full stadia and passionate fans are still a major part of selling 'the product' and the fear of not having that has a bearing on those kind of decisions. A club riven with discontent with fans not turning up or protesting against the incumbent manager isn't the healthy picture owners want to project. Primarily he was sacked because results and performances had declined dramatically though yes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 11:55:15 GMT
Pulis had allowed himself to be influenced towards playing a more expansive game, which he was never really comfortable with. When some results went against us, and we were staring at the relegation zone, he panicked and went back to what he knows best, ie the football that he got us promoted with and kept us up with. What he did "was fucking dire", but it saved his skin for another year and ours as well. Nonsense. He abandoned his "expansive" football the season after the FA Cup final - and went into full scale defensive mode. In other words he didn't do this after a few defeats, he did if after one of the club's highest ever moments. For that season and the next we offered nothing going forward - 2011/12 we were the league's lowest scorers with just 36 goals, the following season this miserable football continued and we scored just 34 (only QPR scored less - and the least said about their hapless managers the better!). Pulis did wonders for our club - but his last two seasons produced dismal football in the league. Simply not true. He continued the "prettier" football throughout our highly successful UEFA Cup campaign right up until the Valenica away game, where he panicked and alienated the fan base by playing all reserves. For the next games he returned to the basics, his basics, and won, and eased our relegation worries.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 28, 2018 13:13:47 GMT
Nonsense. He abandoned his "expansive" football the season after the FA Cup final - and went into full scale defensive mode. In other words he didn't do this after a few defeats, he did if after one of the club's highest ever moments. For that season and the next we offered nothing going forward - 2011/12 we were the league's lowest scorers with just 36 goals, the following season this miserable football continued and we scored just 34 (only QPR scored less - and the least said about their hapless managers the better!). Pulis did wonders for our club - but his last two seasons produced dismal football in the league. Simply not true. He continued the "prettier" football throughout our highly successful UEFA Cup campaign right up until the Valenica away game, where he panicked and alienated the fan base by playing all reserves. For the next games he returned to the basics, his basics, and won, and eased our relegation worries. Is this the same pretty football that had him playing a centre half on the wing and had us finishing in the bottom two of the scoring charts across all four divisions?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 13:18:24 GMT
Really? You think a half empty ground looks good to the Bet 365 brand? I think you gave the real reason for the sacking in your 78% stat above! As for average attendances they barely moved an iota in the 8 Prem years prior the new corner build. Above statement made without checking ! The only time it really moved was Hughes first season because we allegedly sold 2,000 less season tickets than all other seasons. They picked up towards the end under Hughes but some of our worst crowds early on were the so-called glamour games....
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 28, 2018 13:19:14 GMT
Nonsense. He abandoned his "expansive" football the season after the FA Cup final - and went into full scale defensive mode. In other words he didn't do this after a few defeats, he did if after one of the club's highest ever moments. For that season and the next we offered nothing going forward - 2011/12 we were the league's lowest scorers with just 36 goals, the following season this miserable football continued and we scored just 34 (only QPR scored less - and the least said about their hapless managers the better!). Pulis did wonders for our club - but his last two seasons produced dismal football in the league. Simply not true. He continued the "prettier" football throughout our highly successful UEFA Cup campaign right up until the Valenica away game, where he panicked and alienated the fan base by playing all reserves. For the next games he returned to the basics, his basics, and won, and eased our relegation worries. Honestly, what a load of old shite. Pulis is never influenced by anyone or anything. He does it his way or no way which is exactly the way it should be for a manager.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 28, 2018 14:26:00 GMT
I’m of the opinion that TP was out manouvered by Scholes under the cloak of sustainability and a new recruitment policy (with the recruitment of Cartwright) sold to Jonathon. Something went drastically wrong in the January window of 2013 and we went into freefall. Perhaps I’m just a conspiracy theorist. Would TP have accepted (or tried to get over the line) a vast majority of the signings that have led to our current position? I’m not advocating that TP’s removal was the wrong thing, I do however look back and wonder why. As a you correctly points out money talks, I doubt very much that TP was ousted because of the Oatcake or Praise and Grumble. He was ousted because results and performances were in the toilet and no manager survives the crowd turning on them. Using your rationale if things don’t improve dramatically by Xmas we will see the end of GR then.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 28, 2018 14:48:18 GMT
He was ousted because results and performances were in the toilet and no manager survives the crowd turning on them. Using your rationale if things don’t improve dramatically by Xmas we will see the end of GR then. If it drags on for 18 months like it did then you’d really have to hope so. Actually, let’s hope so anyway.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 28, 2018 15:06:15 GMT
Nonsense. He abandoned his "expansive" football the season after the FA Cup final - and went into full scale defensive mode. In other words he didn't do this after a few defeats, he did if after one of the club's highest ever moments. For that season and the next we offered nothing going forward - 2011/12 we were the league's lowest scorers with just 36 goals, the following season this miserable football continued and we scored just 34 (only QPR scored less - and the least said about their hapless managers the better!). Pulis did wonders for our club - but his last two seasons produced dismal football in the league. Simply not true. He continued the "prettier" football throughout our highly successful UEFA Cup campaign right up until the Valenica away game, where he panicked and alienated the fan base by playing all reserves. For the next games he returned to the basics, his basics, and won, and eased our relegation worries. Take your head from out of your arse. We were the lowest scorers in the league that year And there was a reason for that. Pulis reversion to "the basics" started, pretty much, on cup final day and continued for two seasons - admittedly with some diversions in Europe. But it was bread and butter football for the league (and not much in the way of butter!)
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 28, 2018 16:11:55 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Nov 28, 2018 16:22:04 GMT
Yep he’s doing a sterling job of it. Blaming VAR now
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Post by Sfance on Nov 28, 2018 17:17:49 GMT
"barn doors in Hampshire have never had it so good" . . . . love it. They're doing pretty well in North Staffordshire too.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 28, 2018 18:01:26 GMT
Exactly. I can only add why play defenders as wingers? Pulis hit on a winning formula then dumped it. Much the same as Hughes did. Pulis dumped nothing. We were 8th on Boxing Day after trouncing Liverpool. We also finished the season strongly. So how come he dismantled the side that 'trounced Liverpool' and sat in 8th? #scaredofhisownshadow
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 19:30:23 GMT
Simply not true. He continued the "prettier" football throughout our highly successful UEFA Cup campaign right up until the Valenica away game, where he panicked and alienated the fan base by playing all reserves. For the next games he returned to the basics, his basics, and won, and eased our relegation worries. Take your head from out of your arse. We were the lowest scorers in the league that year And there was a reason for that. Pulis reversion to "the basics" started, pretty much, on cup final day and continued for two seasons - admittedly with some diversions in Europe. But it was bread and butter football for the league (and not much in the way of butter!) You're right on one thing and one thing only, I will grant you that. "There was a reason for that".
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 28, 2018 19:40:06 GMT
Take your head from out of your arse. We were the lowest scorers in the league that year And there was a reason for that. Pulis reversion to "the basics" started, pretty much, on cup final day and continued for two seasons - admittedly with some diversions in Europe. But it was bread and butter football for the league (and not much in the way of butter!) You're right on one thing and one thing only, I will grant you that. "There was a reason for that". I’ll try again, if it was such pretty football, why did we virtually only ever score from set pieces, have a centre half on the league and finish bottom of the 92 for goals scored?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 19:45:51 GMT
The love for Lesley us overflowing! 😁
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Post by Linx on Nov 29, 2018 13:34:39 GMT
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Post by spiderpuss on Nov 29, 2018 13:42:57 GMT
Yes I saw this, looks to have been written by a Saint. Very scathing and has no time for LMH. "We told you so", I think is appropriate here.
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Post by reddipotter on Nov 29, 2018 14:02:25 GMT
As a friend observed last night, if Hughes inherits a strong team in a solid club, he will keep it going for a while, but if he takes on a club already struggling he has no chance of success.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 1, 2018 14:17:12 GMT
Working his magic again. 3 wins in 22. Playing the shit today. Could be his last game. He needs to find a new profession because he’s becoming obsolete, irrelevant and unemployable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 17:54:07 GMT
Saints 2 Shit 0
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 1, 2018 17:56:56 GMT
I have had a tiny amount on 3-1, Clem. Cracking free kick for the second!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 18:10:25 GMT
2-2 😁
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 1, 2018 18:14:35 GMT
So nearly cashed out at 2-1! Fucking typical!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 18:25:58 GMT
It'll end 4-3 to manure
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Post by henry on Dec 2, 2018 13:52:47 GMT
There's that old dangerous 2 nil lead again. Well done Mark, keep it going.
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