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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 23, 2018 23:03:16 GMT
What a weird game that was. The old lack of conviction's back for sure, but at the same time we stuck at it and fluked a point through having the strength of character to keep going. Don't know how else to describe that contradiction. And I don't honestly know if Gary's right to stick with his current set of hunches or needs to shake things up again. A team still in major transition, a manager still finding his way - but it's almost November, he really does need to be further ahead. But then an away point at Sheff U is a good result, whatever it takes to scramble over the line...
A confused but reasonably positive 7 from me.
* if you were there please
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Post by mrteddysalad on Oct 23, 2018 23:06:15 GMT
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Post by Gods on Oct 23, 2018 23:14:32 GMT
Clearly a draw at the home of the (very nearly) league leaders in a difficult night match under lights is not too shabby.
Such a shame we weren't able to convert our territorial dominance in to goals at home to Birmingham last weekend, had we done so we'd feel we are on a roll right now, as it is the mood is dark as the night. Fine margins.
It's a tough one to mark since Gazza was in the stands rather than on the touchline but his sub Crouch won the free kick from which we scored.
#6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 23:14:37 GMT
3. I'll be very pleased to see the back of him, I only hope he hasn't completely wrecked us by that point.
They could've been 3 up by 70 minutes.
Playing a hoof game up to Afobe, clearly not his game, clearly hasn't been all season - so why fucking persist with that player in that system/that system with that player...
Works better with Crouch, so if you insist on labouring about with the back 4 and woods keeping possession without end product then Butland hoofing, just play crouch with Afobe or change your tactics.
Mclean doesn't deserve to start. - Same with Martina.
Accommodate the players you have, instead of shoehorning them into a system that clearly gets us beat 1-0 more often than not.
Pathetic from the Centrehalves too, why did we bring Williams in? No strength, no pace, he can play a solid enough 3 yard pass but who can't???
Poor on corners again.
I'm fully in the knicker wetting camp now, or whatever epithet you lot chuck around, We have absolutely no identity.
If you turn out against us and be physical, we don't like it, if you press us we shit ourselves, if you do a little bit of both it's enough to nick a point against us.
There is no defence. With his budget and the time he had to build, there is no excuse for not winning these games.
Start winning some fucking games.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 23, 2018 23:19:29 GMT
6. Played two up top which quite a few wanted (it doesn't work), but started McClean and Martina , given what he's got there's not much else he could do.
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Post by cooper67 on Oct 23, 2018 23:26:09 GMT
4.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 23, 2018 23:28:32 GMT
We didn't try to score until we went behind - AGAIN.
Didn't react anywhere sooner to the conceding attack we were receiving.
Charlie Adam would have at least help to drive the team forward.
After spending ~£30 million in the summer, with the biggest problem we had last season - the striking options, our response to going behind is 129 year old who can't jump. WTF.
When desperately trying to get a goal in the last few minutes, the answer is to replace a right back with another right back.
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Post by greenhoff on Oct 23, 2018 23:30:21 GMT
2 Completely negative performance. Plays McClean, Williams and Cuckoo despite the obvious fact that they can't play football. Massively under achieving.
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 23, 2018 23:39:22 GMT
7
Tactically I don’t see what else he could have done. Played with two up front and two wingers, then brought Bojan on for a full back when chasing the game.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 23, 2018 23:42:04 GMT
Unable to watch it or listen to it.
But he gets a 0 for picking McClean .
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Post by greenhoff on Oct 24, 2018 0:04:42 GMT
7 Tactically I don’t see what else he could have done. Played with two up front and two wingers, then brought Bojan on for a full back when chasing the game. Didn't really have two up front though did we? James McClean is not a winger. Dont even think hes a footballer. As others have said pkay Afobe, Berahino, Bojan and Ince and then cage the others. Wed be far better.
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 24, 2018 0:16:36 GMT
7 Tactically I don’t see what else he could have done. Played with two up front and two wingers, then brought Bojan on for a full back when chasing the game. Didn't really have two up front though did we? James McClean is not a winger. Dont even think hes a footballer. As others have said pkay Afobe, Berahino, Bojan and Ince and then cage the others. Wed be far better. I think he’s crap too but McLean is a left sided midfielder. Berahino was perhaps slightly deeper than Afobe but it’s still virtually 442
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Post by RAF on Oct 24, 2018 0:23:25 GMT
3
Shit
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 24, 2018 0:31:39 GMT
We didn't try to score until we went behind - AGAIN. Didn't react anywhere sooner to the conceding attack we were receiving. Charlie Adam would have at least help to drive the team forward. After spending ~£30 million in the summer, with the biggest problem we had last season - the striking options, our response to going behind is 129 year old who can't jump. WTF. When desperately trying to get a goal in the last few minutes, the answer is to replace a right back with another right back. 3 Re the right back sub, I get the feeling he thinks Edwards is the more attacking option of the two, not defending the sub or anything I just thought it was interesting that he made that change when he did and shows us his thinking behind not starting him, I don't agree with it though, he should be starting every game when fit.
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 24, 2018 6:19:40 GMT
A struggling team in the bottom half and who are certainly looking where they deserve to be sneak a point at high flying promotion chasing SheffU away. We should be happy with our lot....I am sure Gaz is 5
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Post by musik on Oct 24, 2018 7:16:56 GMT
Interview Official SCFC site
satisfaction? slightly disappointed? tough games ahead?
My advice: 1) Get real. Stop fall into the same pattern as Pulis and Hughes did eventually. Lambert at least admitted they were crap when they were so (however without a plan B). 2) Get tough. "Tough games ahead?" It's like we've lost track completely. We should be the ones who decides what's tough! The starting XI vs our reserves should be the toughest game of them all.
Oh yeah, I forgot ...
0 - zero, A BIG fat one
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 24, 2018 7:26:54 GMT
7 Tactically I don’t see what else he could have done. Played with two up front and two wingers, then brought Bojan on for a full back when chasing the game. Didn't really have two up front though did we? James McClean is not a winger. Dont even think hes a footballer. As others have said pkay Afobe, Berahino, Bojan and Ince and then cage the others. Wed be far better. Yes we did have 2 up front. Berahino was far better than Afobe who put no effort in at all. Mclean was better than Ince as well 1 trick pony. 1 from me, his tactics are useless, Woods played further forward at Hillsborough and was superb. Now hes playing him level with the back four.
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Post by potterinleeds on Oct 24, 2018 7:42:32 GMT
3*
I thought we mostly looked aimless.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 24, 2018 7:48:21 GMT
5 for the fact they were top two and we got a point. Only listened to radio stoke and have just seen the highlights but sounded like we got battered most of the game but have somehow ended up with a draw,things have to improve and sharpish if we want playoffs.
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Post by chad on Oct 24, 2018 7:52:40 GMT
2* It was embarrassing to watch
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Post by fca47 on Oct 24, 2018 7:56:40 GMT
2 - his tactics are useless, it's only when we are losing and we just forget them and throw the kitchen sink at it, we even look like we want to get a result.
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Post by mrrburgundy on Oct 24, 2018 8:01:58 GMT
3
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Post by jontimmis on Oct 24, 2018 8:08:09 GMT
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Post by luke45 on Oct 24, 2018 8:09:01 GMT
* The result itself is a decent one regardless whether we deserved it or not but the performance left a lot to be desired again. We couldn't get to grips with the physicality and direct running of Clarke and McGoldrick and they bullied our centre back pairing at times. I felt playing Williams for his third game in a week was a risk and I thought he struggled for most of the evening. We could've quite easily gone in 4-0 down at half time with the efforts that Stevens and Clarke put over the bar and the two saves Jack made from McGoldrick.
I would've taken McClean off, moved Saido wide and brought Bojan on to play in the 10 at half time to be honest as we created absolutely nothing in the first half and it needed freshening up. Sadly we didn't and it took 70 odd minutes for us to react again and start playing with some purpose. To Rowett/Davidson's credit I thought Crouch had a positive impact and won us the free kick which we equalised off, I was just baffled it took as long as 66 minutes for us to change our approach.
We created very little and defensively looked vulnerable all evening but we probably would've all taken that result before the game. Big improvement needed.
5/10
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 24, 2018 8:14:53 GMT
5. We were lucky not to lose, and by 1+ We didn’t appear to have a game plan, defence or attack
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Post by thebet365 on Oct 24, 2018 9:16:39 GMT
*1
There are virtually no positives to take from the game other than we somehow pinched a point.
Our 1st choice pairing CB's are too slow and 1 is getting old, so Gary brings in an even older and slower CB. Our 1st choice right back was too offensive so Gary brings in a RB that can't attack but can barely defend either. Our 1st choice LB has been struggling for a long time - nothing done.
Our new wonder DM signing is missing 1 crucial element. He doesn't tackle. Yes he reads the game well, intercepts balls and mops up loose balls when a defender makes a challenge but for me he leaves too much of the dirty work to the defence, he should be the 1 challenging the ball some of the time leaving the defence free to cover runners.
Our Welsh Pirlo, saved us a point but another game where he was here there and everywhere but hardly where we needed him, in the middle of the park.
Our managers favourite player - McClean, A workhorse type wide player that suits playing for a side under the cosh most games. Not a side looking for promotion. Whilst Ecker was having a shocker last night McClean gave him no help whatsoever.
Our attacking unit : Ince is not a winger so can only play in a 4-3-3, he does track back a bit but there's just no chemistry down our right hand side at the moment. Bojan tried to get on the ball, still bottles it when it comes to the physical side of the game. Afobe had a complete shocker Berahino - The only player in the 1st half that looked up for the game but still doesn't look like the deadly striker you need to get out of this division. Why he was subbed instead of Afobe I'll never know. Crouch did what Crouch does, caused panic in the defence. Won the free kick and had a couple of chances so can't moan too much.
Overall there's just no partnerships anywhere in the side. Edwards or Bauer need to come in at RB, Shawcross needs to come back in to give us a bit more dominance in the air, Woods needs to push further into midfield, Ince to play more like a wide man, Bojan to help Afobe out and Berahino to displace McClean but sadly non of that seems on the Horizon, and that all lands on the managers shoulders.
I've got not faith in Rowett changing his approach.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 24, 2018 10:08:44 GMT
3.
We played for 14 minutes. Unacceptable.
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 24, 2018 10:22:20 GMT
Same old same old
0 from me
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 24, 2018 10:23:42 GMT
2.
Poor.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Oct 24, 2018 10:31:18 GMT
4. Shocking performance, game plan hard to fathom and too many players appearing uninterested.
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