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4-3-3
Oct 20, 2018 19:41:47 GMT
Post by slother on Oct 20, 2018 19:41:47 GMT
Seriously fucking sick of it. It's a shape for the top 6 only.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 19:43:59 GMT
It really isn’t 4-3-3 though is it.
Actually I don’t know what it is, some kind of 5 4 1? I don’t know why I’m trying work it out because I sat there today totally baffled by it
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4-3-3
Oct 20, 2018 19:59:39 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Oct 20, 2018 19:59:39 GMT
Woods seemed to be playing alongside Williams and Bruno so it was a kind of 5-1-3-1. Like clyde, I was totally baffled.
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4-3-3
Oct 20, 2018 20:12:58 GMT
Post by ukcstokie on Oct 20, 2018 20:12:58 GMT
4-3-3 can work well with the attaching 3 playing closely together (like Man City, Liverpool, etc. do), rather than having one striker and two wingers (like we had a the start of the season and now, compacted to a few weeks ago). The attacking striker gets isolated as they've got two centre-halves all over the poor striker.
IMO anyway :-)
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 20, 2018 21:22:40 GMT
It doesn't matter what the formation is...if 2 of your starting 11 are Allen and McLean the system is going to be ineffective.
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4-3-3
Oct 20, 2018 21:40:15 GMT
Post by henry on Oct 20, 2018 21:40:15 GMT
It really isn’t 4-3-3 though is it. Actually I don’t know what it is, some kind of 5 4 1? I don’t know why I’m trying work it out because I sat there today totally baffled by it I'm glad it's not just me.
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4-3-3
Oct 20, 2018 22:32:28 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 20, 2018 22:32:28 GMT
If we played a front 3 of Ince, Berahino and Afobe with 3 in midfield We’d look a lot better. McLean needs dropping. Clucas will make us stronger when fit. We need to get a better balance today we were way to negative till we conceded.
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Post by march4 on Oct 20, 2018 23:03:11 GMT
Team shape? We have no team shape unless it allows for one midfielder to be playing behind our centre backs.
We also have no plan for when we have the ball unless you call tip tapping the ball endlessly around our own half of the pitch as a plan.
Add to that the lack of preparation for set pieces and you get a rudderless team struggling at both ends of the pitch.
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Post by kustokie on Oct 20, 2018 23:10:58 GMT
Woods seemed to be playing alongside Williams and Bruno so it was a kind of 5-1-3-1. Like clyde, I was totally baffled. *It looked like 4-1-4-1 to me. But Woods sat so deep to protect the back four it night as well have been 5 at the back. That lefta massive gap between Wood and Bojan and Allen. Woods’s pass forward were telegraphed and very poor. Worst game he has had so far.
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4-3-3
Oct 20, 2018 23:51:41 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 20, 2018 23:51:41 GMT
Dunno what formation we're playing, but whatever it is, we're leaving Afobe isolated up front....then he goes off, Crouch comes on, and he becomes isolated!!!
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4-3-3
Oct 21, 2018 8:19:17 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 21, 2018 8:19:17 GMT
I think the issue we now have is that he doesn’t trust the defence so by playing Woods deeper to give us extra protection our attack is suffering.
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Oct 21, 2018 8:24:03 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 21, 2018 8:24:03 GMT
I think the issue we now have is that he doesn’t trust the defence so by playing Woods deeper to give us extra protection our attack is suffering. Could we play with no back 4 then? Just stick Erik at the back on his own.
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4-3-3
Oct 21, 2018 8:30:17 GMT
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Post by milky on Oct 21, 2018 8:30:17 GMT
Whatever formation he plays it's crystal clear that Allen and McLean will always be automatic starters if fit.
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4-3-3
Oct 21, 2018 8:34:56 GMT
Post by ravey123 on Oct 21, 2018 8:34:56 GMT
Seriously fucking sick of it. It's a shape for the top 6 only. 433 only works with a top class striker and 2 rapid wide men and 2 good holding midfielders. For this league I would say we have the top class striker, 1 rapid(ish) wide player (Ince) and 2 good holding mdfielders (2 of Woods, Clucas and Etebo). There isnt a another good rapid winger at the club so until he gets one he cannot play 433 For 433 you have to effectively play a front diamond, the attacking midfielder behind the striker should be Bera or Bojan but if 1 position is not filled properly it all falls down - hence the left wing problem
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