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Post by dastokie on Oct 18, 2018 19:21:01 GMT
By Bonfire night will we be firing up the table or simmering to a halt,Blues,Blades,Robins and Boro.
Target of 10 points would really push us up the table.
4 massive games in 14 days
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 18, 2018 19:25:39 GMT
Alternatively of course we could be back amognst the fight for survival with 1/3 of the season gone , time will tell
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Post by eddyclamp on Oct 18, 2018 19:31:32 GMT
Alternatively of course we could be back amognst the fight for survival with 1/3 of the season gone , time will tell We can always rely on you Benji for a bit of perspective. |
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Oct 18, 2018 19:38:12 GMT
Benji the ultimate pessimist! Pisses me off if I am thinking having a round trip to Stoke of nigh on 390 miles and we don’t get a result
For me
3 points against Birmingham
1point at Bristol
3 points at Bramll Lane
1 point against Boro.
Call me an optimist I don’t care
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 19:38:47 GMT
By Bonfire night will we be firing up the table or simmering to a halt,Blues,Blades,Robins and Boro. Target of 10 points would really push us up the table. 4 massive games in 14 days I have a £100 bet on us going straight back up... I would also like to see Ipswich promoted too |
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Oct 18, 2018 19:44:42 GMT
I have £10 on winning the league. Have not torn up the ticket!
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 18, 2018 20:16:01 GMT
Based on our performances so far and recently, and our opponents positions and recent results, we will do well to get 6 points from 4 matches. 5 is a bit more realistic maintaining our present position in the table.
10 points is wildly optimistic, but I hope it is right.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 18, 2018 20:18:58 GMT
Alternatively of course we could be back amognst the fight for survival with 1/3 of the season gone , time will tell More chance of us being back in the Premier League than in a relegation scrap, I'm sorry to disappoint you. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 18, 2018 20:20:14 GMT
It's becoming increasingly clear that there isn't an outstanding team in the league. I think West Brom and Boro are ok and I think the Sheff U manager is very good, Forest are dark horses but if we can be 10 to 12 points off the top by the time the window reopens we might have a chance of doing something.
Unfortunately, there's still nothing wrong with the process.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 18, 2018 21:35:43 GMT
Alternatively of course we could be back amognst the fight for survival with 1/3 of the season gone , time will tell More chance of us being back in the Premier League than in a relegation scrap, I'm sorry to disappoint you. No disappointment general just a simple fact that the next 4 tricky games will determine ou4 real progress to date or otherwise , I hope we are top 6 after them |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 18, 2018 21:41:09 GMT
Alternatively of course we could be back amognst the fight for survival with 1/3 of the season gone , time will tell Surely that applies to every team in the fucking league as it stands?? Or am I being thick? |
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Post by Hiram on Oct 18, 2018 22:05:33 GMT
Boro = 0 points, obvs
Others very winnable
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Post by entropy92 on Oct 18, 2018 22:30:15 GMT
Boro = 0 points, obvs Others very winnable Cant wait to quote u on that. Personally im feeling very positive and even dreaming of promotion again! |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 18, 2018 22:36:17 GMT
Lose Sat'day and this thread is gonna tell a different story!!!  Don't ya just love being a Stokie!!!  |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Oct 18, 2018 22:49:23 GMT
I think a win Saturday against Birmingham, win against Bristol city. Boro and Shef utd draw both.....
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 18, 2018 22:54:06 GMT
It's becoming increasingly clear that there isn't an outstanding team in the league. I think West Brom and Boro are ok and I think the Sheff U manager is very good, Forest are dark horses but if we can be 10 to 12 points off the top by the time the window reopens we might have a chance of doing something. Unfortunately, there's still nothing wrong with the process. I agree, but it is also true that with a quarter of the season gone, the league places are still very distorted by the the opponents each team has played: SheffU's position is flattering them as they have only played 1 match against a team in the top 8 and lost that. They are where they are because they have beaten rather than drawn against all the lower table sides. West Brom's position is also flattering as they have not yet played any team in the top half of the table at home. They are by far the highest scorers in the league but have also conceded more goals than anyone except Wednesday in the top half of the table, which is not a recipe for promotion. Leeds are already doing their "March act" - "in like a lion, out like a lamb". 14 goals in their first 5 matches, but only 8 in their last 7 games. Stoke is the highest placed team they have beaten at home so far. Boro have arguably the best record so far this season. They have played all the other teams in the top 5 and acquitted themselves well. They have only played 2 games at home against teams in the bottom half of the table and won both. As might be expected under TP they have not scored a lot, but they have the tightest defence in the league. Forest are I agree the dark horses. Only lost 1 match; Karanka is doing with them what he did to get Middlesbrough promoted. They have had a very balanced fixture list and well worth their position in the table. Wednesday are another team who's position flatters them. They have played 5 games against teams in the top half of the table and not won one. Brentford are another team like Leeds, having started very well but recently run out of steam. A balanced fixture list and only lost twice, so still a force to be reckoned with and not to be over-looked. Derby are the 4th team near the top who's position flatters them. 8 of their matches have been against teams in the bottom 9 positions. They have won just 1 match against teams in the top 15 places. Norwich must be sicker than sick losing to us. After a very difficult start to the season playing teams that got off to a good start, they hit their stride and started a run of sound results. They are worth their 9th place and have a lot of winnable home matches to come. Blackburn are drawing a lot and have only lost twice. They have an odd record winning away matches and drawing at home repeatedly. They could go either way: start winning at home and climb the table, or start losing away and drop down? Swansea's, like Stoke, appear to be finding it hard to adapt to life in the Championship with losses to teams in the bottom half of the table, but no losses against teams in the top half - strange? Wigan - one outstanding result all season so far - against guess who? Not played any of the top 4 and poor away record apart from the one we all remember. Expect they will struggle. Bristol City are 13th, but don't rule them out yet. They have had arguably the most difficult fixture list of all. 8 games against teams in the top half of the table (W3,D1) and only 1 home match against teams in the bottom half of the table. Going forward they have an "easier" remaining fixture list than anyone, so expect them to climb the table. Stoke - we all have our expert views. 2 desperately bad home losses, some other poor defensive performances that have cost points, and no 90 minute convincing away performances. Fortunately our future is in our own hands with lots of winnable home matches to come and home matches against top teams that are worth "6 points". |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 19, 2018 6:33:12 GMT
At 5pm on Nov 10th we’ll have an idea what this season holds in store for us imo after what is a run of 5 games against decent sides
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 19, 2018 6:38:38 GMT
Alternatively of course we could be back amognst the fight for survival with 1/3 of the season gone , time will tell Surely that applies to every team in the fucking league as it stands?? Or am I being thick? Not at all are you being thick , , it illustrates we are much of a muchness in this league and as we play some tricky fixtures over the next couple of weeks we will get an even better feel of our true standing good bad or indifferent |
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Post by westgatelakes on Oct 19, 2018 11:12:23 GMT
if we defend well over the 4 games, I can foresee at least 7 points but if we don`t, I don`t believe we`re good enough to gather any more than 2 or 3 points.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Oct 19, 2018 11:41:41 GMT
I try not to look past each game at the moment. You could be planning on playing top of the league mid week but they're fourth by the time the game comes around.
Mental league.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Oct 19, 2018 11:42:13 GMT
That being said, we'll obviously have 12 points after the 4 games and be challenging at the top anyway.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 19, 2018 11:47:06 GMT
12 Points out of 12
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Post by GoBoks on Oct 19, 2018 11:58:01 GMT
So in summary:
If we win games we’ll do better, but if we lose games we’ll do worse.
If other teams win more than us, we’ll do worse, but if other teams lose more than us we’ll do better.
Impressive!
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 19, 2018 15:02:53 GMT
Just wandering in again briefly.
We remain a very poor team with too many wasters, has-beens and never-weres.
As things stand, the table flatters us greatly and this season remains primarily a fight to avoid a second relegation.
Those talking of promotion - forget it, we are a decade of rebuilding away from that...at least.
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Post by Davef on Oct 19, 2018 16:20:03 GMT
Just wandering in again briefly. We remain a very poor team with too many wasters, has-beens and never-weres. As things stand, the table flatters us greatly and this season remains primarily a fight to avoid a second relegation. Those talking of promotion - forget it, we are a decade of rebuilding away from that...at least. A decade? How do you work that out? Cardiff, Hull and Fulham have been amongst the worst teams we've ever faced in the Premier League and they've all made it back after relegation well within a decade. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 16:49:18 GMT
Just wandering in again briefly. We remain a very poor team with too many wasters, has-beens and never-weres. As things stand, the table flatters us greatly and this season remains primarily a fight to avoid a second relegation. Those talking of promotion - forget it, we are a decade of rebuilding away from that...at least. If that's the best wind up you can come up with I wouldn't bother wandering in again if I were you. If you truly believe what you've just written and it isn't a feeble attempt at a wind up then you are mental. |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 19, 2018 17:33:25 GMT
Just wandering in again briefly. We remain a very poor team with too many wasters, has-beens and never-weres. As things stand, the table flatters us greatly and this season remains primarily a fight to avoid a second relegation. Those talking of promotion - forget it, we are a decade of rebuilding away from that...at least. Pisser. |
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Post by mrteddysalad on Oct 19, 2018 18:20:49 GMT
Our backline is still crap and he still plays McClean, Allen, Fletcher, Crouch at the expense of our skill players, so I think we'll be stuck mid-table at least until January. If we can pick up a couple CBs during the window I think we'll rise up the table at that point.
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Oct 19, 2018 18:50:26 GMT
It depends a lot on the board's willingness to strengthen our defense in January
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 19, 2018 19:01:33 GMT
We have nothing to worry about in this division. Boro are on telly and are supposedly one of the best teams in the division. They look terrible.
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