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Post by staffsvilla on Oct 17, 2018 7:16:59 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks it's no coincidence that England football teams at ALL levels are progressively improving since SGP has come into play, they said 10+ years before we would see the benefits of SGP I'd say we already are seeing it at all levels in both men's and women's football also with all the coaches in the same place singing off the same hymn sheet this can only get better !
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 17, 2018 7:45:33 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks it's no coincidence that England football teams at ALL levels are progressively improving since SGP has come into play, they said 10+ years before we would see the benefits of SGP I'd say we already are seeing it at all levels in both men's and women's football also with all the coaches in the same place singing off the same hymn sheet this can only get better ! UTV Yes, also think the stadium should have been built in the midlands. With the khan offer they should snap his hands off and build a new stadium in the midland with the cash and do it properly this time. The whole area around Wembley is a total shit hole.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 17, 2018 8:18:04 GMT
Things are definitely looking good now in terms of talent production at all the youth levels. Just a case of getting them meaningful football in that crucual 17-21 period now.
This guy is the right-back for the U19s!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 17, 2018 8:19:34 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks it's no coincidence that England football teams at ALL levels are progressively improving since SGP has come into play, they said 10+ years before we would see the benefits of SGP I'd say we already are seeing it at all levels in both men's and women's football also with all the coaches in the same place singing off the same hymn sheet this can only get better ! UTV Yes, also think the stadium should have been built in the midlands. With the khan offer they should snap his hands off and build a new stadium in the midland with the cash and do it properly this time. The whole area around Wembley is a total shit hole. If they did build a new stadium in the Midlands they should go the whole hog and put in a retractable pitch with sufficient infrastructure outside the stadium for several playing surface options. That way other sports such as American Football, Rugby (League and Union) could be accommodated without any compromises. If they designed the front 20 rows of seats to be retractable (as per the Stade de France) so the playing area could be enlarged, they could even cope with baseball, athletics and cricket. Lets build the sort of National Stadium which Wembley should have been - but in an area with sufficient space, infrastructure and transport links to do a proper job.
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Post by Gods on Oct 17, 2018 8:35:08 GMT
I think London is the right place for the national stadium, its one of the great cities of the world and Wembley for all the raffishness of the locality has history, a host of excellent rail and bus links and too many eateries, hotels and pubs to mention.
It wouldn't feel the same somehow if 90,000 of us all flog down the A5 to an out-of-town'er in the arse end of Tamworth. And it would take about 2 days for the traffic to clear after the match!
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 17, 2018 10:09:31 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks it's no coincidence that England football teams at ALL levels are progressively improving since SGP has come into play, they said 10+ years before we would see the benefits of SGP I'd say we already are seeing it at all levels in both men's and women's football also with all the coaches in the same place singing off the same hymn sheet this can only get better ! UTV Yes, also think the stadium should have been built in the midlands. With the khan offer they should snap his hands off and build a new stadium in the midland with the cash and do it properly this time. The whole area around Wembley is a total shit hole. Some would argue the Midlands is a total shit hole.
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Post by rawli on Oct 17, 2018 10:29:18 GMT
Yes, also think the stadium should have been built in the midlands. With the khan offer they should snap his hands off and build a new stadium in the midland with the cash and do it properly this time. The whole area around Wembley is a total shit hole. If they did build a new stadium in the Midlands they should go the whole hog and put in a retractable pitch with sufficient infrastructure outside the stadium for several playing surface options. That way other sports such as American Football, Rugby (League and Union) could be accommodated without any compromises. If they designed the front 20 rows of seats to be retractable (as per the Stade de France) so the playing area could be enlarged, they could even cope with baseball, athletics and cricket. Lets build the sort of National Stadium which Wembley should have been - but in an area with sufficient space, infrastructure and transport links to do a proper job. Is someone going to buy Wembley without the guarantees of hosting England games and the cup finals?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 17, 2018 12:18:39 GMT
If they did build a new stadium in the Midlands they should go the whole hog and put in a retractable pitch with sufficient infrastructure outside the stadium for several playing surface options. That way other sports such as American Football, Rugby (League and Union) could be accommodated without any compromises. If they designed the front 20 rows of seats to be retractable (as per the Stade de France) so the playing area could be enlarged, they could even cope with baseball, athletics and cricket. Lets build the sort of National Stadium which Wembley should have been - but in an area with sufficient space, infrastructure and transport links to do a proper job. Is someone going to buy Wembley without the guarantees of hosting England games and the cup finals? Very probably not. Doesn't mean that I can't hope/wish that the National Stadium had been built in the Midlands and that it had been imaginatively designed to get best value out of the capital outlay.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 17, 2018 13:30:35 GMT
If they did build a new stadium in the Midlands they should go the whole hog and put in a retractable pitch with sufficient infrastructure outside the stadium for several playing surface options. That way other sports such as American Football, Rugby (League and Union) could be accommodated without any compromises. If they designed the front 20 rows of seats to be retractable (as per the Stade de France) so the playing area could be enlarged, they could even cope with baseball, athletics and cricket. Lets build the sort of National Stadium which Wembley should have been - but in an area with sufficient space, infrastructure and transport links to do a proper job. Is someone going to buy Wembley without the guarantees of hosting England games and the cup finals? As I understand it Khan approached the FA rather than the FA actively putting it up for sale. Under that scenario it would be disappointing if they (the FA) hadn't at least explored other options rather than just rolling over and chucking all the games in the pot. I'm fine with cup finals at Wembley but would be nice to see the semi finals and more of the internationals spread round the country.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 17, 2018 13:43:05 GMT
Is someone going to buy Wembley without the guarantees of hosting England games and the cup finals? As I understand it Khan approached the FA rather than the FA actively putting it up for sale. Under that scenario it would be disappointing if they (the FA) hadn't at least explored other options rather than just rolling over and chucking all the games in the pot. I'm fine with cup finals at Wembley but would be nice to see the semi finals and more of the internationals spread round the country. They're opening it up to other bids but all cup finals & England games would be guaranteed there I think
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 17, 2018 14:16:39 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 17, 2018 15:20:47 GMT
I remember when the FA were roundly mocked when they announced their "England DNA" programme which coincided with move of all Senior and development squads to the site. The problem is, people expect instant results from grass roots to Wembley and it simply isn't possible.
Spain were underachievers in football for decades, yet post 1988 and Cruyff taking over BArcelona there was a seismic shift in their football philosophy which in the end would manifest in tiki-taka and the Spanish style we all know and try to emulate today. That took 18 years to bear fruit for the national team. I believe we have to work on similar scales, we've finally thrown out the Charles Hughes manual that ruined national football in this country (not the Premier League, I think that the PL is a symptom rather than the cause). Now, coaches are finally looking for technique, skill, vision in players rather than purely physical attributes. Long may it continue. For the first time, certainly in my life time I can see a map to England winning something rather than simply crossing my fingers.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 17, 2018 19:27:15 GMT
Progress is built on long term investment ahead of the curve there is a lesson there somewhere .
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Post by lordb on Oct 17, 2018 20:13:33 GMT
Progress is built on long term investment ahead of the curve there is a lesson there somewhere . Hijacking again.
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Post by rawli on Oct 19, 2018 10:00:51 GMT
Progress is built on long term investment ahead of the curve there is a lesson there somewhere . Hijacking again. It's not wrong though is it?
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Post by raythesailor on Oct 19, 2018 10:12:54 GMT
A National stadium somewhere to the E of Birmingham with road and rail links to the four corners of the nation and only just over an hour away from central London would place the vast majority of the population within a max Three hours from the venue. It would bring added prosperity to the area and enable more people to attend events that they would not consider traveling to Wembley for.
Added to this there are Two major airports and cities nearby.
Why does everything have to get crammed together in th SE ?
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Post by steewee on Oct 19, 2018 10:50:31 GMT
A National stadium somewhere to the E of Birmingham with road and rail links to the four corners of the nation and only just over an hour away from central London would place the vast majority of the population within a max Three hours from the venue. It would bring added prosperity to the area and enable more people to attend events that they would not consider traveling to Wembley for. Added to this there are Two major airports and cities nearby. Why does everything have to get crammed together in th SE ? Because, like it or not, people visit the UK to go to London.. it's globally recognized and is our capital.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 19, 2018 11:11:56 GMT
A National stadium somewhere to the E of Birmingham with road and rail links to the four corners of the nation and only just over an hour away from central London would place the vast majority of the population within a max Three hours from the venue. It would bring added prosperity to the area and enable more people to attend events that they would not consider traveling to Wembley for. Added to this there are Two major airports and cities nearby. Why does everything have to get crammed together in th SE ? Because, like it or not, people visit the UK to go to London.. it's globally recognized and is our capital. What has the attractiveness of London as a destination for overseas tourists got to do with the geographical site of a national sports stadium ?
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Post by lordb on Oct 19, 2018 11:31:12 GMT
It's not wrong though is it? this thread is about St Georges Park,England & the FA Just no need to talk about Stoke & Scholes (AGAIN) when there are so many Stoke threads to talk about it on it's really really boring,even more boring than this post
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Post by GoBoks on Oct 19, 2018 12:07:01 GMT
A National stadium somewhere to the E of Birmingham with road and rail links to the four corners of the nation and only just over an hour away from central London would place the vast majority of the population within a max Three hours from the venue. It would bring added prosperity to the area and enable more people to attend events that they would not consider traveling to Wembley for. Added to this there are Two major airports and cities nearby. Why does everything have to get crammed together in th SE ? Because the majority of the population live there? Why should they have a long commute for everyone when the majority could have a short commute?
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Post by Gods on Oct 19, 2018 12:16:35 GMT
Because, like it or not, people visit the UK to go to London.. it's globally recognized and is our capital. What has the attractiveness of London as a destination for overseas tourists got to do with the geographical site of a national sports stadium ? Quite a lot if you are trying to attract other sports like American Football to locate there in order to sweat the asset a bit harder financially! The yanks still haven't recovered from their Embassy moving from Mayfair, to quote Trump, an "off" and "lousy" location South of the river at Nine Elms, so much so he wouldn't come and cut the ribbon. Imagine if you told him someone had moved the Embassy next door to Carpetright on an industrial park just outside Redditch
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Post by steewee on Oct 19, 2018 12:21:56 GMT
Because, like it or not, people visit the UK to go to London.. it's globally recognized and is our capital. What has the attractiveness of London as a destination for overseas tourists got to do with the geographical site of a national sports stadium ? Erm, quite a lot? If I'm coming to watch England play as a guest in this country then I want to be where all the action is, not the Midlands!!!!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 19, 2018 12:33:01 GMT
What has the attractiveness of London as a destination for overseas tourists got to do with the geographical site of a national sports stadium ? Erm, quite a lot? If I'm coming to watch England play as a guest in this country then I want to be where all the action is, not the Midlands!!!! As opposed to the convenience of the vast majority of the paying customers who want a football stadium more accessible to where they live so that attending England matches isn't a 2 day affair and therefore excludes most people north of Watford who struggle to get time off work or have kids in school. But hey as long as all those 'millions' of expats or one off visitors, who want it to be where the action is, are satisfied then happy days.
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Post by rawli on Oct 19, 2018 13:58:45 GMT
It's not wrong though is it? this thread is about St Georges Park,England & the FA Just no need to talk about Stoke & Scholes (AGAIN) when there are so many Stoke threads to talk about it on it's really really boring,even more boring than this post Point taken. You boring get.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 19, 2018 13:58:55 GMT
A National stadium somewhere to the E of Birmingham with road and rail links to the four corners of the nation and only just over an hour away from central London would place the vast majority of the population within a max Three hours from the venue. It would bring added prosperity to the area and enable more people to attend events that they would not consider traveling to Wembley for. Added to this there are Two major airports and cities nearby. Why does everything have to get crammed together in th SE ? Because the majority of the population live there? Why should they have a long commute for everyone when the majority could have a short commute? There are more of the population living in the South East than the Midlands, that is true. But a stadium in the Midlands near the rail and motorway network would have more people living within 2 hours commute of it than would do so if it was in London. A Stadium somewhere near the National Exhibition Centre and Birmingham Airport would have half the English population within a 2 hour commute I would think and pretty well all of England and Wales could get there and back in a day without too much by way of early starts or very late finishes. The National Exhibition Centre was located there rather than in London for that very reason. Of course, anyone who thinks that the people living in and near London are more important than the people elsewhere in the country, will not agree with me!
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Post by symons55 on Oct 19, 2018 14:12:26 GMT
Because, like it or not, people visit the UK to go to London.. it's globally recognized and is our capital. What has the attractiveness of London as a destination for overseas tourists got to do with the geographical site of a national sports stadium ? This is not about London the capital which will get visitors from all over the world whether Wembley was there or in Newcastle. The discussion is about where our national (England)stadium should be located so as to best serve our English population. If a foreigner was coming to our national stadium for an event I doubt that they would be put off by it not being in London ?
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Post by lordb on Oct 19, 2018 18:41:53 GMT
What has the attractiveness of London as a destination for overseas tourists got to do with the geographical site of a national sports stadium ? This is not about London the capital which will get visitors from all over the world whether Wembley was there or in Newcastle. The discussion is about where our national (England)stadium should be located so as to best serve our English population. If a foreigner was coming to our national stadium for an event I doubt that they would be put off by it not being in London ? Part of the occasion is going to London. Going to some field outside Birmingham doesn't appeal.
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Post by Gods on Oct 19, 2018 18:47:55 GMT
This is not about London the capital which will get visitors from all over the world whether Wembley was there or in Newcastle. The discussion is about where our national (England)stadium should be located so as to best serve our English population. If a foreigner was coming to our national stadium for an event I doubt that they would be put off by it not being in London ? Part of the occasion is going to London. Going to some field outside Birmingham doesn't appeal. Exactly.
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Post by stokeyank on Oct 19, 2018 19:23:27 GMT
What has the attractiveness of London as a destination for overseas tourists got to do with the geographical site of a national sports stadium ? This is not about London the capital which will get visitors from all over the world whether Wembley was there or in Newcastle. The discussion is about where our national (England)stadium should be located so as to best serve our English population. If a foreigner was coming to our national stadium for an event I doubt that they would be put off by it not being in London ? People would not care but, foreign entities like the NFL would be put off by that. As someone who may get there a couple times in my life I could not give two shits about where the stadium was located, but it is all about money. So being in London would attract more of those outside England that have the money. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that the NFL has an interest in a full time team in the UK and Mexico. But they would never do it without their team's permanent home being in London and Mexico City (note: that home may not even be the national stadium).
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 19, 2018 19:44:04 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks it's no coincidence that England football teams at ALL levels are progressively improving since SGP has come into play, they said 10+ years before we would see the benefits of SGP I'd say we already are seeing it at all levels in both men's and women's football also with all the coaches in the same place singing off the same hymn sheet this can only get better ! UTV Yes, also think the stadium should have been built in the midlands. With the khan offer they should snap his hands off and build a new stadium in the midland with the cash and do it properly this time. The whole area around Wembley is a total shit hole. If you haven’t been to Wembley and the surrounding area recently I suggest you do. You would not recognise it. There is an entire New conurbation in progress. £Hundreds Million’s being spent on Tower blocks, Shops, Pubs, Public seating areas. Absoloutely amazing what is going on down there. Makes you realise how neglected areas like Stoke are.
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