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Post by duckling on Oct 14, 2018 4:15:16 GMT
The PSG v Red Star Belgrade match in the Champions League last month appears to have been fixed. A Red Star official bet €5 million that Red Star would lose by 5 goals. The final score was 6-1. www.bbc.com/sport/football/45843131Almost all the games in the Belgian league last season were fixed according to a referee. The Belgian league has seen a huge influx of foreign money in recent years. Hmmm.... The article is in French. m.rtl.be/sport/1067514I fucking hate the amount of corruption in football.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 4:21:16 GMT
The PSG v Red Star Belgrade match in the Champions League last month appears to have been fixed. A Red Star official bet €5 million that Red Star would lose by 5 goals. The final score was 6-1. www.bbc.com/sport/football/45843131Almost all the games in the Belgian league last season were fixed according to a referee. The Belgian league has seen a huge influx of foreign money in recent years. Hmmm.... The article is in French. m.rtl.be/sport/1067514I fucking hate the amount of corruption in football. I bet you do...
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 14, 2018 8:20:58 GMT
The PSG v Red Star Belgrade match in the Champions League last month appears to have been fixed. A Red Star official bet €5 million that Red Star would lose by 5 goals. The final score was 6-1. www.bbc.com/sport/football/45843131Almost all the games in the Belgian league last season were fixed according to a referee. The Belgian league has seen a huge influx of foreign money in recent years. Hmmm.... The article is in French. m.rtl.be/sport/1067514I fucking hate the amount of corruption in football. Get used to it football lost any real creditably when it sold its integrity for the mighty dollar years ago Now it is almost impossible to separate betting from football where there is betting there is dishonesty When corruption is rife in fifa then it is bound to filter down The BEAUTIFUL game in fact it’s rather UGLY
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Post by berahinosgoals on Oct 14, 2018 8:27:08 GMT
How can you bet 5 million on a defeat by 5 goals and not expect it to look a bit, er... dodgy
" hi, the red star match tonight, can you tell me the return on a defeat by 5 goals with a 5 million euro stake please?"
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 14, 2018 8:29:09 GMT
Was Hans Segars in goal? :0)
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Post by citynickscfc on Oct 14, 2018 16:33:06 GMT
The PSG v Red Star Belgrade match in the Champions League last month appears to have been fixed. A Red Star official bet €5 million that Red Star would lose by 5 goals. The final score was 6-1. www.bbc.com/sport/football/45843131Almost all the games in the Belgian league last season were fixed according to a referee. The Belgian league has seen a huge influx of foreign money in recent years. Hmmm.... The article is in French. m.rtl.be/sport/1067514I fucking hate the amount of corruption in football. Goes much further, and you only have to look much closer to home. Foreign takeovers, dirty money, the financial world in general, football as a way of cleaning said money, it's all a bit errrr..... obvious. Look at man city 😂 limits would make sense to ensure competition... But bah, money more important. Sport has always been dirty, I'd rather play it than watch it.
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Oct 15, 2018 0:38:22 GMT
One of my friends has a lot to do with some very big named footballers from the premier league I won’t go into details about how etc but he was always football mad that’s how we met through playing football but as soon as he got involved with these he stopped liking football he said there’s that much stuff going on even on an international level he said it’s ripped the stomach out of football for him.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Nov 2, 2018 20:10:14 GMT
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Post by LH_SCFC on Nov 2, 2018 20:37:00 GMT
Wait until someone finally lifts the lid on all of the doping.
Or are we meant to believe that the only sport immune from any kind of major drug scandal is the one which has the most money at stake...?!
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 2, 2018 20:46:16 GMT
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Post by duckling on Nov 4, 2018 1:08:09 GMT
Wait until someone finally lifts the lid on all of the doping. Or are we meant to believe that the only sport immune from any kind of major drug scandal is the one which has the most money at stake...?! It's amazing how many fans use mental gymnastics to convince themselves that doping doesn't happen in football.
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Post by superheroantonius on Nov 4, 2018 1:25:32 GMT
How can you bet 5 million on a defeat by 5 goals and not expect it to look a bit, er... dodgy " hi, the red star match tonight, can you tell me the return on a defeat by 5 goals with a 5 million euro stake please?" I can't remember the exact details , but Matt le tissier actually bet on Southampton conceding a throw in , in a particular minute of the game Then kicked the ball out play , in that minute of the match
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Post by wilcopotter on Nov 4, 2018 8:11:20 GMT
Sorry if this sounds naive but I don’t understand how you can get so many people to engineer something as specific as a five goal defeat without someone or several people spilling the beans?
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 4, 2018 8:21:28 GMT
Wait until someone finally lifts the lid on all of the doping. Or are we meant to believe that the only sport immune from any kind of major drug scandal is the one which has the most money at stake...?! It's amazing how many fans use mental gymnastics to convince themselves that doping doesn't happen in football. Well its pretty clear we at Stoke are absutely fcuking not using performance enhancing drugs
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 4, 2018 8:32:35 GMT
How can you bet 5 million on a defeat by 5 goals and not expect it to look a bit, er... dodgy " hi, the red star match tonight, can you tell me the return on a defeat by 5 goals with a 5 million euro stake please?" I can't remember the exact details , but Matt le tissier actually bet on Southampton conceding a throw in , in a particular minute of the game Then kicked the ball out play , in that minute of the match Wasn't it that the other team would get the first throw in? Then he'd win the toss and boot it out. However one game he didn't get enough on it and then had to chase after the ball so he could win it back and kick it out?
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Post by duckling on Jan 17, 2019 16:49:40 GMT
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jan 17, 2019 17:28:58 GMT
Monkey glands !!!
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Post by questionable on Jan 17, 2019 17:39:55 GMT
Expecting to open the thread and see Williams and Martina’s names as being the scandals.
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Post by DunnetHeadMoonraker on Jan 17, 2019 21:24:07 GMT
Some of you oldies will remember that our former player Ken Thomson was jailed for 6 months in 1964 for receiving £ 200 for helping his team lose whilst playing for Hartlepool. Apparently Ken died in 1969 from a heart attack aged 39. Ken played for us in the first Stoke game I saw in 1957. Some other players were also involved in these 1960's betting scandals. Have a look at this newspaper report. www.independent.co.uk/sport/sixties-scandal-that-shocked-the-game-1611646.html
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 17, 2019 22:54:42 GMT
Half way through the book Red Card about the FBIs criminal investigation into FIFA. Its mainly concentrated on the South American, Caribbean and Central American and USA confederations and the hundreds of millions paid in back handers to Confederation Presidents and the football presidents of individual countries. The FBI trade off sentencing some of the bigger fish to become informants to trap the real leaders. Buying votes for presidential elections is very common as is buying votes for world cups. But by far the biggest bribes are paid by media companies to football presidents in order to get exclusive rights for TV and sponsorship. FBI/IRS agents can indict anybody who launders money through American banks and clearing houses even if they are not American or set foot in America. The dirty money merely has to pass through the American banks and not neccessarily ending up there for a crime to have been committed. That made it relatively easy for the FBI to investigate the fraud.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 0:20:12 GMT
Unbelievable. Only a game? Money corrupts every thing, I am glad I haven't got any.
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Post by Stoke711 on Jan 18, 2019 0:53:06 GMT
Can't be long before Scholes and Cartwright are investigated for money laundering
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Post by Stoke711 on Jan 18, 2019 0:55:08 GMT
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Post by kustokie on Jan 18, 2019 2:36:27 GMT
Half way through the book Red Card about the FBIs criminal investigation into FIFA. Its mainly concentrated on the South American, Caribbean and Central American and USA confederations and the hundreds of millions paid in back handers to Confederation Presidents and the football presidents of individual countries. The FBI trade off sentencing some of the bigger fish to become informants to trap the real leaders. Buying votes for presidential elections is very common as is buying votes for world cups. But by far the biggest bribes are paid by media companies to football presidents in order to get exclusive rights for TV and sponsorship. FBI/IRS agents can indict anybody who launders money through American banks and clearing houses even if they are not American or set foot in America. The dirty money merely has to pass through the American banks and not neccessarily ending up there for a crime to have been committed. That made it relatively easy for the FBI to investigate the fraud. Great read. I started a thread on this awhile ago and got roundly slagged because us yanks don’t know anything about football. The links between the corruption in FIFA and the Mueller investigation into Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election are truly amazing. CONCACAF had offices in Trump Tower, for crying out loud.
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Post by tuum on Jan 18, 2019 7:41:04 GMT
18 years ago I worked with an Austrian guy in China. He liked a bet and loved the UK because of the online betting websites. He was a reasonably serious gambler...semi-professional I suppose. He loved football. I expected him to gamble on the English Premier League games but he avoided any UK football. Instead he preferred to bet on Austria-Czech-Hungary etc 2nd division leagues. His argument was that lower leagues on the fringes of Europe were obviously corrupt (in his opinion) and the UK betting sites either didn't know or didn't care. He got longer odds than were warranted so he waded in and made a killing. Mind you he never told me when he lost.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 18, 2019 7:46:08 GMT
Wait until someone finally lifts the lid on all of the doping. Or are we meant to believe that the only sport immune from any kind of major drug scandal is the one which has the most money at stake...?! THIS!!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operaci%C3%B3n_Puerto_doping_case#OthersEufemiano Fuentes has said he'll never grass on other sports, but has very strong links to Dutch and Spanish players. He also said something along the lines of. He won't say wht he's done for footballers, but questions would be asked of Spain's World cup win if he did. Strangley they have faltered quickly after their glory spell. Least said about Rafael Nadal the better, but it was left to Spainish authourities to procecute their best ever tennis player and national hero! I don't believe the Rio Ferdinand missing tests bollocks either. Man U who would appeal anything, let it go without a murmur. From Wiki On 5 July 2006, Fuentes was indignant that only cyclists had been named and said he also worked with tennis and football players.[2] On 27 July 2006, IAAF was assured by Spanish prosecutors that no track and field athletes were involved.[58] On 23 September 2006, former cyclist Jesús Manzano told reporters from France 3 that he had seen "well-known footballers" from La Liga visit the offices of Dr Fuentes.[59] In May 2007 Sepp Blatter, president of FIFA, at a World Anti-Doping Agency meeting in Montreal, was reportedly interested in the contents "of the Puerto file".[60] Le Monde had reported in December 2006 that they had possession of documents of Fuentes detailing "seasonal preparation plans" for Spanish football clubs FC Barcelona and Real Madrid. These plans did not specifically name any players.[61] No other athletes had been named.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 18, 2019 9:32:54 GMT
If senior highly paid stars are involved in betting scams then it doesn’t bode well for the lower and none league players being corrupted.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 18, 2019 17:51:15 GMT
Half way through the book Red Card about the FBIs criminal investigation into FIFA. Its mainly concentrated on the South American, Caribbean and Central American and USA confederations and the hundreds of millions paid in back handers to Confederation Presidents and the football presidents of individual countries. The FBI trade off sentencing some of the bigger fish to become informants to trap the real leaders. Buying votes for presidential elections is very common as is buying votes for world cups. But by far the biggest bribes are paid by media companies to football presidents in order to get exclusive rights for TV and sponsorship. FBI/IRS agents can indict anybody who launders money through American banks and clearing houses even if they are not American or set foot in America. The dirty money merely has to pass through the American banks and not neccessarily ending up there for a crime to have been committed. That made it relatively easy for the FBI to investigate the fraud. Great read. I started a thread on this awhile ago and got roundly slagged because us yanks don’t know anything about football. The links between the corruption in FIFA and the Mueller investigation into Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election are truly amazing. CONCACAF had offices in Trump Tower, for crying out loud. And Jeffry Webb the highest ranking official to face criminal charges was found guilty in Nov 2016 but as of Oct 2018 had managed to defer his sentence hearing no less than 7 times. WTF. Caribbean footballis now suffering because of the tens of millions of dollars siphoned offin bribes by these crooks. Imagine if they had built up a league system similar to North America.....
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jan 18, 2019 18:24:39 GMT
18 years ago I worked with an Austrian guy in China. He liked a bet and loved the UK because of the online betting websites. He was a reasonably serious gambler...semi-professional I suppose. He loved football. I expected him to gamble on the English Premier League games but he avoided any UK football. Instead he preferred to bet on Austria-Czech-Hungary etc 2nd division leagues. His argument was that lower leagues on the fringes of Europe were obviously corrupt (in his opinion) and the UK betting sites either didn't know or didn't care. He got longer odds than were warranted so he waded in and made a killing. Mind you he never told me when he lost. Mind you he never told me when he lost. !! Yup that’s a gambler. He probably didn’t even tell himself. !! Ask Mr Coates.
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Post by thevoid on Jan 18, 2019 18:30:54 GMT
I've heard some Stoke City players have been tapped up and asked if they'll consider winning games for money.
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