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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 7, 2018 8:36:54 GMT
Or it was a dogged backs to the wall performance that you need now and again in this league 🤔 A type of performance which has been missing for a long time and have had criticism (deservedly) for not being able to put them in...and when we’ve been the better team and still lost had grumbles about it being the score that counts yet when we finally get the rub of the green and get a gritty win then it’s still picked up on by some. There are some who are quite clear in the sense that Rowett can’t win no matter what...Can’t do right for doing wrong. Just don’t entertain them crouchie, you’ll never get any logic from them. Pugs has backed himself into a corner already mate just like he did with Pulis.His total lack of respect of the championship is what I don’t get but as always it’s opinions that make this board so entertaining
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 8:45:12 GMT
Those tactics won't work more than once or twice this season. We have to go all out to attack and dominate. We should be with the squad we have Rubbish. The words of somebody who hasn't got a clue what they're on about.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 7, 2018 8:51:47 GMT
Those tactics won't work more than once or twice this season. We have to go all out to attack and dominate. We should be with the squad we have Rubbish. The words of somebody who hasn't got a clue what they're on about. I agree with him wholeheartedly.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Oct 7, 2018 8:53:20 GMT
If they had the 2 shots straight at Butland that were on highlights, don't see how we were lucky. If they can't score past our defence, which hasn't been a problem for majority of teams we've played,not our problem. 😁
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 8:59:03 GMT
Rubbish. The words of somebody who hasn't got a clue what they're on about. I agree with him wholeheartedly. Then you too have lost all sense of rationality. Wolves won the league last year as comfortably, points wise, as anyone in recent memory and they spent shit loads of money doing it. Have a look at how many 1-0 wins they had to grind out. Do you seriously believe that we are good enough to just blow every team away in this league by going all out attack every game?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 7, 2018 9:03:35 GMT
I agree with him wholeheartedly. Then you too have lost all sense of rationality. Wolves won the league last year as comfortably, points wise, as anyone in recent memory and they spent shit loads of money doing it. Have a look at how many 1-0 wins they had to grind out. Do you seriously believe that we are good enough to just blow every team away in this league by going all out attack every game? I bet they didn't once approach a game like we did yesterday. I've no problem with grinding out a result. It's to be commended. I have a problem with setting up NOT TO LOSE rather than GOING OUT TO WIN which is what we did yesterday. All out attack is equally as stupid as all out defence. We haven't been all out attack in any game we've played this season. There has to be a balance and if we approach more games like we did yesterday, we'll lose more than we win. Great performance if you watched on teletext. Pretty shit if you spent 10 hours of your life getting down there and back to watch that rubbish.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 7, 2018 9:05:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 9:08:25 GMT
I agree with him wholeheartedly. Then you too have lost all sense of rationality. Wolves won the league last year as comfortably, points wise, as anyone in recent memory and they spent shit loads of money doing it. Have a look at how many 1-0 wins they had to grind out. Do you seriously believe that we are good enough to just blow every team away in this league by going all out attack every game? They were toothless up front.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 9:09:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 9:13:09 GMT
Then you too have lost all sense of rationality. Wolves won the league last year as comfortably, points wise, as anyone in recent memory and they spent shit loads of money doing it. Have a look at how many 1-0 wins they had to grind out. Do you seriously believe that we are good enough to just blow every team away in this league by going all out attack every game? I bet they didn't once approach a game like we did yesterday. I've no problem with grinding out a result. It's to be commended. I have a problem with setting up NOT TO LOSE rather than GOING OUT TO WIN which is what we did yesterday. All out attack is equally as stupid as all out defence. We haven't been all out attack in any game we've played this season. There has to be a balance and if we approach more games like we did yesterday, we'll lose more than we win. Great performance if you watched on teletext. Pretty shit if you spent 10 hours of your life getting down there and back to watch that rubbish. "I have no problem with grinding out a result" Its pretty obvious that you do, because that is exactly what we did yesterday. I get that some people want to see us go at teams and win in style because given an option that's exactly what I'd rather see, but I'm also realistic enough to know that that just doesn't happen to any football team, never mind us, and when we go to the leagues in form team (No matter how shit people might think they are) and come away with three much needed points it's nothing bother than a cracking result and it's irrelevant to me how we got those points. We have to remember that we've all been moaning (Quite rightly) about how shit we've been in midfield and at the back for a long time now, so when we go away from home and look solid in both of those departments to come away with a victory it seems a bit strange how people can be pissed off. Because let's be honest, even in victory, there are plenty of folk who still aren't happy.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 7, 2018 9:17:34 GMT
I bet they didn't once approach a game like we did yesterday. I've no problem with grinding out a result. It's to be commended. I have a problem with setting up NOT TO LOSE rather than GOING OUT TO WIN which is what we did yesterday. All out attack is equally as stupid as all out defence. We haven't been all out attack in any game we've played this season. There has to be a balance and if we approach more games like we did yesterday, we'll lose more than we win. Great performance if you watched on teletext. Pretty shit if you spent 10 hours of your life getting down there and back to watch that rubbish. "I have no problem with grinding out a result" Its pretty obvious that you do, because that is exactly what we did yesterday. I get that some people want to see us go at teams and win in style because given an option that's exactly what I'd rather see, but I'm also realistic enough to know that that just doesn't happen to any football team, never mind us, and when we go to the leagues in form team (No matter how shit people might think they are) and come away with three much needed points it's nothing bother than a cracking result and it's irrelevant to me how we got those points. We have to remember that we've all been moaning (Quite rightly) about how shit we've been in midfield and at the back for a long time now, so when we go away from home and look solid in both of those departments to come away with a victory it seems a bit strange how people can be pissed off. Because let's be honest, even in victory, there are plenty of folk who still aren't happy. I don't. None at all. I have a problem with a starting 11 with zero attacking intent and substitutions that reduce that threat even more. Grinding out parts of games is 100% a necessity. Deliberately setting out to grind out 90 minutes against crap opposition is less palatable even as a one off and even more so when you know it will soon become the norm
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 7, 2018 9:23:43 GMT
"I have no problem with grinding out a result" Its pretty obvious that you do, because that is exactly what we did yesterday. I get that some people want to see us go at teams and win in style because given an option that's exactly what I'd rather see, but I'm also realistic enough to know that that just doesn't happen to any football team, never mind us, and when we go to the leagues in form team (No matter how shit people might think they are) and come away with three much needed points it's nothing bother than a cracking result and it's irrelevant to me how we got those points. We have to remember that we've all been moaning (Quite rightly) about how shit we've been in midfield and at the back for a long time now, so when we go away from home and look solid in both of those departments to come away with a victory it seems a bit strange how people can be pissed off. Because let's be honest, even in victory, there are plenty of folk who still aren't happy. I don't. None at all. I have a problem with a starting 11 with zero attacking intent and substitutions that reduce that threat even more. Grinding out parts of games is 100% a necessity. Deliberately setting out to grind out 90 minutes against crap opposition is less palatable even as a one off and even more so when you know it will soon become the norm
That is my concern. Rowett is a cautious manager down to his boots who will revel in the nature of the victory yesterday. I anticipate we'll see Bojan again some time around Christmas!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 9:23:47 GMT
"I have no problem with grinding out a result" Its pretty obvious that you do, because that is exactly what we did yesterday. I get that some people want to see us go at teams and win in style because given an option that's exactly what I'd rather see, but I'm also realistic enough to know that that just doesn't happen to any football team, never mind us, and when we go to the leagues in form team (No matter how shit people might think they are) and come away with three much needed points it's nothing bother than a cracking result and it's irrelevant to me how we got those points. We have to remember that we've all been moaning (Quite rightly) about how shit we've been in midfield and at the back for a long time now, so when we go away from home and look solid in both of those departments to come away with a victory it seems a bit strange how people can be pissed off. Because let's be honest, even in victory, there are plenty of folk who still aren't happy. I don't. None at all. I have a problem with a starting 11 with zero attacking intent and substitutions that reduce that threat even more. Grinding out parts of games is 100% a necessity. Deliberately setting out to grind out 90 minutes against crap opposition is less palatable even as a one off and even more so when you know it will soon become the norm I'm not convinced it will become the norm to be honest. Weren't his Derby team the third highest goal scorers in the league last season or something like that? We have seen already this season that we are willing to try and play teams off the pitch at times home and away and with better defending and finishing we would have done just that. People were complaining not so long ago that our new manager doesn't have a plan on how he wants to play. The last two games he's proved that he has more than one plan and people still moan. All this after his two plans harbouring 6 points.
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Post by lordb on Oct 7, 2018 9:44:01 GMT
Then you too have lost all sense of rationality. Wolves won the league last year as comfortably, points wise, as anyone in recent memory and they spent shit loads of money doing it. Have a look at how many 1-0 wins they had to grind out. Do you seriously believe that we are good enough to just blow every team away in this league by going all out attack every game? I bet they didn't once approach a game like we did yesterday. I've no problem with grinding out a result. It's to be commended. I have a problem with setting up NOT TO LOSE rather than GOING OUT TO WIN which is what we did yesterday. All out attack is equally as stupid as all out defence. We haven't been all out attack in any game we've played this season. There has to be a balance and if we approach more games like we did yesterday, we'll lose more than we win. Great performance if you watched on teletext. Pretty shit if you spent 10 hours of your life getting down there and back to watch that rubbish. You'd lose your bet then. Every side that wins league's has games (not two either) where they don't perform and hat to grind out a win instead.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 7, 2018 9:54:13 GMT
I don't. None at all. I have a problem with a starting 11 with zero attacking intent and substitutions that reduce that threat even more. Grinding out parts of games is 100% a necessity. Deliberately setting out to grind out 90 minutes against crap opposition is less palatable even as a one off and even more so when you know it will soon become the norm I'm not convinced it will become the norm to be honest. Weren't his Derby team the third highest goal scorers in the league last season or something like that? We have seen already this season that we are willing to try and play teams off the pitch at times home and away and with better defending and finishing we would have done just that. People were complaining not so long ago that our new manager doesn't have a plan on how he wants to play. The last two games he's proved that he has more than one plan and people still moan. All this after his two plans harbouring 6 points. Apparently so yet when they needed to get over the line they didn't because they retreated into their shells. Their performances against Fulham in the play offs (1 shot in 2 games and 30% possession in both games) were reminiscent of our display yesterday.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 7, 2018 9:55:45 GMT
I bet they didn't once approach a game like we did yesterday. I've no problem with grinding out a result. It's to be commended. I have a problem with setting up NOT TO LOSE rather than GOING OUT TO WIN which is what we did yesterday. All out attack is equally as stupid as all out defence. We haven't been all out attack in any game we've played this season. There has to be a balance and if we approach more games like we did yesterday, we'll lose more than we win. Great performance if you watched on teletext. Pretty shit if you spent 10 hours of your life getting down there and back to watch that rubbish. You'd lose your bet then. Every side that wins league's has games (not two either) where they don't perform and hat to grind out a win instead. If you can find me a game where wolves played 10 across the back and won a game without having a shot on target, I'll bow to your knowledge. Every team will grind out a win. Not many good teams set out to do that deliberately.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 7, 2018 10:17:31 GMT
All about the result yesterday. Given the good performances at Weds and Rotherham that only resulted in a point at each, I'll take that.
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