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Post by george2again on Oct 6, 2018 16:29:00 GMT
Looks like the trade off is we play McClean and lose attacking impetus or play Bera and go more attacking at present. What we need is someone who can do both. We become toothless when McCLean plays and vulnerable when he doesn't. Suppose an increase in form from Eric would help us do without McClean. We certainly look better attacking than defending.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 6, 2018 16:31:06 GMT
It would have to be someone without any flair!!!
Otherwise, he'll be a limited bench player!!!
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Post by padders01 on Oct 6, 2018 16:31:37 GMT
Don’t rate McClean at all
Offers nothing
Not sure he even works that hard effectively
Agreed a new left sided player would be great in January
No surprise we look a lot better going forward since McClean has been injured
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 6, 2018 16:36:59 GMT
He will improve with more game time, and I still think Etebo could do well there too. We also have Clucas who will be worth a go there.  |
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Post by potter25 on Oct 6, 2018 16:57:37 GMT
Will McLean play around remeberance time?
If I’m correct Baggies used to drop him, keep him and their club out of it...
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Post by TexasPotter on Oct 6, 2018 17:06:34 GMT
I’d rather bring back SJW than start McClean. Unbelievably limited and one footed. He defends really well, runs and gives immense effort but watching Ince on the right wing makes you wonder if we could get an etherington type winger on the left we’d be massively improved.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 17:07:01 GMT
Will McLean play around remeberance time? If I’m correct Baggies used to drop him, keep him and their club out of it... Be interesting when he’s got the majority of fans chanting wanker at him |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 18:04:06 GMT
If only there was someone who we could have chased all summer, who would have been our number one target for that role and who all the fans knew about the quality he’d bring that would unite the fans in this tough time.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Oct 6, 2018 18:11:31 GMT
We should just move to a wing back system and exploit Eric's natural attacking talent.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 7, 2018 0:29:13 GMT
Clucas is fully fit soon. Midfielder more than winger, but left footed and will get up and down. Add him to the midfield and we may go 442 with Saido or Bojan supporting Benny up front.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 7, 2018 1:31:19 GMT
I’d rather bring back SJW than start McClean. Unbelievably limited and one footed. He defends really well, runs and gives immense effort but watching Ince on the right wing makes you wonder if we could get an etherington type winger on the left we’d be massively improved. I agree with most of your post but I think you've gor the defendin bit wrong. MCclean does run around a lot in defence but he just doesn't seem to have any idea at all about marking, positional sense or anticipation. He is a very limited player in both attack and defence. |
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Post by TexasPotter on Oct 7, 2018 3:38:28 GMT
I’d rather bring back SJW than start McClean. Unbelievably limited and one footed. He defends really well, runs and gives immense effort but watching Ince on the right wing makes you wonder if we could get an etherington type winger on the left we’d be massively improved. I agree with most of your post but I think you've gor the defendin bit wrong. MCclean does run around a lot in defence but he just doesn't seem to have any idea at all about marking, positional sense or anticipation. He is a very limited player in both attack and defence.I really noticed his poor play going forward today more than defence. I think he would defend more than say Bera but Bera would attack more. I wish we had a better balanced left wing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 6:51:21 GMT
Clucas is fully fit soon. Midfielder more than winger, but left footed and will get up and down. Add him to the midfield and we may go 442 with Saido or Bojan supporting Benny up front. Square pegs round holes McClean is our best option on the left unless we want to try Ince our there, we should have bought another winger but we are where we are until Jan, he is capable of doing a job on the left this season but we need more options. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 7:21:53 GMT
Don't torture yourselves. Rowett loves McClean. He isn't going anywhere fast.
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Post by bolders on Oct 7, 2018 7:34:11 GMT
Don't torture yourselves. Rowett loves McClean. He isn't going anywhere fast. This is the problem, his lovin with McClean is detrimental to the team. He should take Fletcher’s place on the bench and be brought on around 60/65th min to attack the tiring defenders and to shore us up. Like he did the other week. I can’t see Rowett going out and getting another left sided player after getting McClean and Clucas. We need another 2 wingers incase Ince gets injured again. Unless he fancies converting Bauer in to a winger seeing how he doesn’t rate his defending |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 7:48:57 GMT
Don't torture yourselves. Rowett loves McClean. He isn't going anywhere fast. This is the problem, his lovin with McClean is detrimental to the team. He should take Fletcher’s place on the bench and be brought on around 60/65th min to attack the tiring defenders and to shore us up. Like he did the other week. I can’t see Rowett going out and getting another left sided player after getting McClean and Clucas. We need another 2 wingers incase Ince gets injured again. Unless he fancies converting Bauer in to a winger seeing how he doesn’t rate his defending We need a winger and a CB but we need to get rid of at least 2 players first, we have a big squad with some who are never going to get a look in. The likes of Adam / Fletcher / Affelay / Tymon / Bauer (sadly), Diouf can go too although he is a useful backup option. |
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Post by bolders on Oct 7, 2018 7:59:36 GMT
I’d get rid of all but Bauer. Get in James Collins until the end of the season and see if we can loan Foden from Man city. Just can’t think of another winger we can get. Anyone in the championship who is good enough won’t be sold to us and who in the premier can we get? Ritchie has played most of castles games so he isn’t an option
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Oct 7, 2018 8:12:22 GMT
Somebody must have been pissed when we spent millions on McLean.. No pace, can't go past a man, no skill, a dirty twat and can't cross the road.! Yet he gets in the team instead of bojan.? 😂 😂 😂
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 7, 2018 8:39:09 GMT
Their 18 year old right back had McLean in his pocket yesterday it was a bit embarrassing to be honest.
He tries to help Pieters in defence but ends up getting in the way mostly.
He offers us something but should not be a regular starter if we want to dominate games
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 9:01:06 GMT
Somebody must have been pissed when we spent millions on McLean.. No pace, can't go past a man, no skill, a dirty twat and can't cross the road.! Yet he gets in the team instead of bojan.? 😂 😂 😂 ...and so he should on that comparison, as Bojan isn't a left winger. I reckon Josh Tymon would offer more on the left wing though. |
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Post by march4 on Oct 7, 2018 9:05:28 GMT
I think Etebo would be an excellent left sided attacking player. It is a role with which he is familiar.
In January this would allow us to bring in a tall, aggressive player who excels in the air, will support our lone striker, protect the ball and be the first line of defence. Something akin to a modern Mama Sidibe. The lad Powell at Wigan looks perfect to me.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Oct 7, 2018 9:46:28 GMT
"Judge me by what I do on the pitch", he said.
Okay, done that, you're shit mate.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Oct 7, 2018 9:52:29 GMT
Don’t rate McClean at all Offers nothing Not sure he even works that hard effectively Agreed a new left sided player would be great in January No surprise we look a lot better going forward since McClean has been injured Depends if we're ignoring his assist to Ince straight after coming on in the week. The fact is, like him or not, he does offer something. |
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Post by hammercricket on Oct 7, 2018 10:50:06 GMT
Don’t rate McClean at all Offers nothing Not sure he even works that hard effectively Agreed a new left sided player would be great in January No surprise we look a lot better going forward since McClean has been injured Depends if we're ignoring his assist to Ince straight after coming on in the week. The fact is, like him or not, he does offer something. Sako was your man, from what I can gather wba don’t really need him as they already have pace and flair in abundance. or was that the problem? too much flair for Rowatt’s liking |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 11:58:51 GMT
Don’t rate McClean at all Offers nothing Not sure he even works that hard effectively Agreed a new left sided player would be great in January No surprise we look a lot better going forward since McClean has been injured Depends if we're ignoring his assist to Ince straight after coming on in the week. The fact is, like him or not, he does offer something. Some people just have an agenda, I didn’t want him here in the first place but he is a Stokie now and our best option at present on the left wing, he has also been decent at times which people like to ignore. He has to do the job until January if we want to play wingers, we are only two months in and he deserves his chance. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 12:01:05 GMT
Start Saido, we've played our best stuff when Saido comes inside and the gap out wide is filled by Allen/Bojan/Pieters.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 7, 2018 12:34:31 GMT
We actually need a left footed attacking player to cover for Ince on the right. We're loaded with right footed players attacking players who can play on the left of a 433 - McClean, Saido, Bojan and Diouf.
There's no point getting a traditional left sided wide player - we're not playing with wingers. We're playing with inside forwards. What exactly is the point of buying players who play in a position we don't bother using? May as well get a fly half in at Xmas,
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Post by rosco on Oct 7, 2018 12:41:10 GMT
I think we'll see Clucas out on the left
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 7, 2018 13:03:53 GMT
McClean offers urgency and passion but like others I’m not sure what to make of him. So far he doesn’t look like a wide player. Is he pacey? No, has he got a trick or two to go around someone? No. Does he deliver killer crosses? Not yet.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 7, 2018 13:42:21 GMT
Somebody must have been pissed when we spent millions on McLean.. No pace, can't go past a man, no skill, a dirty twat and can't cross the road.! Yet he gets in the team instead of bojan.? 😂 😂 😂 Somebody must have been pissed when put him on a FOUR year contract at the age of 29.....if this is his best, God help us by time he's 33!!! Way to go Stoke, great foresight.... making sure we tie him down, incase someone tries to poach him!!! 👍 |
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