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Post by teenagefanclub on Oct 4, 2018 17:16:26 GMT
Can't find a thread that would link to this (there's bound to be some random fucking thread so apologies if there is)
Anyway...
GR: We always felt it would be difficult to start quickly for reasons I won't go into but I feel as though we are making good strides now. I think we have controlled a lot of games & created lots of chances. The way we are playing is one I feel we can enjoy success with long term
What doesn't he want to go into?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 4, 2018 17:18:59 GMT
Maybe he has erectile dysfunction so he needs a while to warm up with the missus?🤔
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 4, 2018 17:21:36 GMT
He inherited a load of demoralised, unfit players who had got used to losing, I would guess.
To adjust to going from a struggler in the PL which gets 30% possession a game to a big boy in the Championship which gets 70% possession instead is a major transition.
11 games in, we are just finally seeing us settling down.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 4, 2018 17:26:13 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 4, 2018 17:38:34 GMT
He inherited a load of demoralised, unfit players who had got used to losing, I would guess. To adjust to going from a struggler in the PL which gets 30% possession a game to a big boy in the Championship which gets 70% possession instead is a major transition. 11 games in, we are just finally seeing us settling down. I think he means more by it than that Jezza. West Brom and Swansea were in the exact same boat as us and have taken to things much more quickly, its a pretty lame excuse if that is all that he means. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Oct 4, 2018 17:40:46 GMT
Because he didn’t get the players that he knew the team required, holding midfielder, centre backs & full backs, solved the midfield position and had to make do with loan signings for defensive positions. It’s going to be interesting as to where Clucas will play as he might be lined up for defensive duties.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 4, 2018 17:54:32 GMT
His first full season at Derby was like this:
3 wins in the first 1O games and 15th place.
13 wins in the next 2O games and 2nd place.
2 wins in the next 13 games, and they drop out of the top 6.
A recovery in the last 3 games, and they finish 6th with 75 points.
A roller coaster ride but a play off position at the end.
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 4, 2018 17:58:37 GMT
The fixture list was reasonably kind to us giving us games against all 3 promoted teams 2 of them being at home and we managed just one point...shocking really.
Rowett was installed early as a manager who knew this league and yet we floundered from day one. In stark contrast Swansea and West Brom both with rookie managers at this level have looked more comfortable and achieved 4 and 8 points more than us.
I don't really want to hear more slopey shouldered blaming of others for this shambles so I am glad he isnt going to elaborate.
Our awful start is Rowett's responsibility and his inability to get us organised and firing has cost us some serious points. Looking at the fixtures we really should be on around 17/18pts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 17:59:43 GMT
His first full season at Derby was like this: 3 wins in the first 1O games and 15th place. 13 wins in the next 2O games and 2nd place. 2 wins in the next 13 games, and they drop out of the top 6. A recovery in the last 3 games, and they finish 6th with 75 points. A roller coaster ride but a play off position at the end. Here’s hoping we can do similar but without the drop off in form in the last third. We can still win this league IMO. |
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 4, 2018 18:06:08 GMT
His first full season at Derby was like this: 3 wins in the first 1O games and 15th place. 13 wins in the next 2O games and 2nd place. 2 wins in the next 13 games, and they drop out of the top 6. A recovery in the last 3 games, and they finish 6th with 75 points. A roller coaster ride but a play off position at the end. Derby actually blew their playoff semi final against Fulham. Rowett tried to park the bus after taking a 1-0 lead in the first leg. He left the league's leading scorer Vydra on the bench and managed just one shot on target....let's hope he learn't something from that experience. |
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 4, 2018 18:09:51 GMT
His first full season at Derby was like this: 3 wins in the first 1O games and 15th place. 13 wins in the next 2O games and 2nd place. 2 wins in the next 13 games, and they drop out of the top 6. A recovery in the last 3 games, and they finish 6th with 75 points. A roller coaster ride but a play off position at the end. Here’s hoping we can do similar but without the drop off in form in the last third. We can still win this league IMO. It's possible as you say, without the lapse in form after January. |
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 4, 2018 18:17:32 GMT
His first full season at Derby was like this: 3 wins in the first 1O games and 15th place. 13 wins in the next 2O games and 2nd place. 2 wins in the next 13 games, and they drop out of the top 6. A recovery in the last 3 games, and they finish 6th with 75 points. A roller coaster ride but a play off position at the end. Derby actually blew their playoff semi final against Fulham. Rowett tried to park the bus after taking a 1-0 lead in the first leg. He left the league's leading scorer Vydra on the bench and managed just one shot on target....let's hope he learn't something from that experience. I think what the results show at Derby is that it's almost impossible to predict what is going to happen this season, but he did recover from a poor start.
Apparently he also added more players to his squad and that coincided with a severe drop in form in the new year.
The defensive issues are the problem for now, whether it's a lack good defenders or a tactical problem I'm not sure.
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Post by lordb on Oct 4, 2018 18:19:38 GMT
Derby actually blew their playoff semi final against Fulham. Rowett tried to park the bus after taking a 1-0 lead in the first leg. He left the league's leading scorer Vydra on the bench and managed just one shot on target....let's hope he learn't something from that experience. I think what the results show at Derby is that it's almost impossible to predict what is going to happen this season, but he did recover from a poor start. Apparently he also added more players to his squad and that coincided with a severe drop in form in the new year. The defensive issues are the problem for now, whether it's a lack good defenders or a tactical problem I'm not sure.
The defensive issues are all down to individual errors. For Williams and Shawcross that's down to their bodies getting older and slower. |
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 4, 2018 18:24:45 GMT
I think what the results show at Derby is that it's almost impossible to predict what is going to happen this season, but he did recover from a poor start. Apparently he also added more players to his squad and that coincided with a severe drop in form in the new year. The defensive issues are the problem for now, whether it's a lack good defenders or a tactical problem I'm not sure.
The defensive issues are all down to individual errors. For Williams and Shawcross that's down to their bodies getting older and slower. It's just my opinion that when a team concedes 18 goals in 11 games it's caused by more than just individual mistakes, but by how the team is set up to defend.
Only Preston have conceded more goals this season in the Championship.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 4, 2018 18:55:19 GMT
He inherited a load of demoralised, unfit players who had got used to losing, I would guess. To adjust to going from a struggler in the PL which gets 30% possession a game to a big boy in the Championship which gets 70% possession instead is a major transition. 11 games in, we are just finally seeing us settling down. I think he means more by it than that Jezza. West Brom and Swansea were in the exact same boat as us and have taken to things much more quickly, its a pretty lame excuse if that is all that he means. A dig at the Pizza boys, maybe? Certainly I can imagine they make his job more difficult in some respects. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 18:57:53 GMT
The defensive issues are all down to individual errors. For Williams and Shawcross that's down to their bodies getting older and slower. It's just my opinion that when a team concedes 18 goals in 11 games it's caused by more than just individual mistakes, but by how the team is set up to defend. Only Preston have conceded more goals this season in the Championship.
I'd agree but 16 of the 18 were very easily avoidable if one player did their job properly. |
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Post by staffordstokie31 on Oct 4, 2018 19:08:24 GMT
He has to be referencing recruitment. Can't see any professional football manager being content with our lack of depth in certain positions (left wing, striker, centre half and LB). We're painfully imbalanced- we have to keep our fingers crossed that our starters can stay fit all season or players being forced into new positions can somehow surprise us all. I'm baffled the club would take the risk (or am I?)... oh to be a fly on the wall...
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 4, 2018 19:13:02 GMT
Can't find a thread that would link to this (there's bound to be some random fucking thread so apologies if there is) Anyway... GR: We always felt it would be difficult to start quickly for reasons I won't go into but I feel as though we are making good strides now. I think we have controlled a lot of games & created lots of chances. The way we are playing is one I feel we can enjoy success with long term What doesn't he want to go into? I'd rather he didn't say anything at all than use excuses he won't go into and back up. Either tell us what they are or shut up. |
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 4, 2018 19:15:15 GMT
It's just my opinion that when a team concedes 18 goals in 11 games it's caused by more than just individual mistakes, but by how the team is set up to defend. Only Preston have conceded more goals this season in the Championship.
I'd agree but 16 of the 18 were very easily avoidable if one player did their job properly. Fair enough, if that's accurate though it's an amazing statistic as we would have only conceded 2 goals without those errors and Stoke would have the best defensive record in the Championship.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 4, 2018 19:24:18 GMT
Feel like he's getting at that now he has his signings for example Woods, we are in a much stronger position. Perhaps hinting that he would of liked it all done sooner maybe.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 4, 2018 19:25:21 GMT
It's just my opinion that when a team concedes 18 goals in 11 games it's caused by more than just individual mistakes, but by how the team is set up to defend. Only Preston have conceded more goals this season in the Championship.
I'd agree but 16 of the 18 were very easily avoidable if one player did their job properly. Who's the one player? |
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Post by Veritas on Oct 4, 2018 19:35:15 GMT
I'd agree but 16 of the 18 were very easily avoidable if one player did their job properly. Who's the one player? Well Ryan appears to be carrying the can. |
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Post by pyrus on Oct 4, 2018 21:01:29 GMT
Can't find a thread that would link to this (there's bound to be some random fucking thread so apologies if there is) Anyway... GR: We always felt it would be difficult to start quickly for reasons I won't go into but I feel as though we are making good strides now. I think we have controlled a lot of games & created lots of chances. The way we are playing is one I feel we can enjoy success with long term What doesn't he want to go into? It’s like listening to Mark Hughes all over again |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Oct 4, 2018 21:08:40 GMT
Well Ryan appears to be carrying the can. I think he means 1 player in each of the goals (Ryan for one, Williams for one etc...) Not just 1 player, if that makes sense? |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 4, 2018 21:27:11 GMT
The fixture list was reasonably kind to us giving us games against all 3 promoted teams 2 of them being at home and we managed just one point...shocking really. Rowett was installed early as a manager who knew this league and yet we floundered from day one. In stark contrast Swansea and West Brom both with rookie managers at this level have looked more comfortable and achieved 4 and 8 points more than us. I don't really want to hear more slopey shouldered blaming of others for this shambles so I am glad he isnt going to elaborate. Our awful start is Rowett's responsibility and his inability to get us organised and firing has cost us some serious points. Looking at the fixtures we really should be on around 17/18pts. Can't disagree with a word of that |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 4, 2018 23:02:55 GMT
The pre season fixtures were rotten no wonder we started slowly.
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Post by Gods on Oct 4, 2018 23:15:11 GMT
I'm a bit concerned that he keeps trotting out that 'average finish in the championship for a relegated prem team being 9th' statistic, I hope he's not gearing himself up to tell us if we finish 8th we have somehow surpassed all expectations.
Bottom line is he inherited a side which only fell out of the Prem by a meager 3 points, and from that team we have only lost Shaqiri of consequence and in turn we invested a further £50m in the summer which is telephone numbers by the standards of most championship teams. If he chooses not to use that resource say in the case of Bauer and Etebo then that's his decision but with the playing resources at our disposal we should be winning this league exactly as the bookmakers said we would 8 short weeks ago.
I like him and I think he is slowly getting there but I am still expecting nothing less than promotion in May.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 4, 2018 23:32:59 GMT
Can't find a thread that would link to this (there's bound to be some random fucking thread so apologies if there is) Anyway... GR: We always felt it would be difficult to start quickly for reasons I won't go into but I feel as though we are making good strides now. I think we have controlled a lot of games & created lots of chances. The way we are playing is one I feel we can enjoy success with long term What doesn't he want to go into? He wasn't happy with the set up pre season, friendlies etc, he didn't hide it either in the interviews he had at the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 14:48:03 GMT
I'd agree but 16 of the 18 were very easily avoidable if one player did their job properly. Who's the one player? Different on each occasion, but they've all been down to one of the defenders (sometimes two) not doing their job properly. Which points to individuals and not tactics for me |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 5, 2018 14:50:47 GMT
Different on each occasion, but they've all been down to one of the defenders (sometimes two) not doing their job properly. Which points to individuals and not tactics for me I knew what you meant mate I was just being an arse  and I agree. |
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