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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 29, 2018 21:55:09 GMT
Rotherham had a lots of tall players... an GR decided to drop our tallest and strongest defender and replace him with Willams. I would love to hear his reasoning for that, if he has any.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 22:01:37 GMT
Rotherham had a lots of tall players... an GR decided to drop our tallest and strongest defender and replace him with Willams. I would love to hear his reasoning for that, if he has any. And keep Bruno in who couldn’t head a ball to save his life...weird |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Sept 29, 2018 22:16:39 GMT
By your reasoning, we'd have played Souttar wouldn't we? He's our tallest defender.
GR was right to drop Ryan, he's been shite - the rest will do him good...hopefully.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 29, 2018 22:18:42 GMT
Lack of height wasn’t the reason we didn’t win.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 29, 2018 22:19:10 GMT
Not sure there's that much in it is there, either way that wasn't a problem today, not tracking runners and trying to mount players was.
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 29, 2018 22:20:02 GMT
By your reasoning, we'd have played Souttar wouldn't we? He's our tallest defender. GR was right to drop Ryan, he's been shite - the rest will do him good...hopefully. Souttar would have been a better option than Williams for sure. |
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Post by TexasPotter on Sept 29, 2018 22:20:58 GMT
How can you assume "tactics" and "basic" when it comes to Rowett's tenure? That's the biggest stretch here. I can see "mistake" like we made a mistake appointing him but that is about it.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Sept 29, 2018 22:21:00 GMT
By your reasoning, we'd have played Souttar wouldn't we? He's our tallest defender. GR was right to drop Ryan, he's been shite - the rest will do him good...hopefully. Souttar would have been a better option than Williams for sure. I don't think so, I've seen milk turn quicker than Souttar. |
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 29, 2018 22:22:53 GMT
Souttar would have been a better option than Williams for sure. I don't think so, I've seen milk turn quicker than Souttar. Well they scored after a corner and all of their attacking players were rather slow. |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Sept 29, 2018 22:27:47 GMT
I don't think so, I've seen milk turn quicker than Souttar. Well they scored after a corner and all of their attacking players were rather slow. You joking? Smith was pretty fast for someone so tall - or at least our defenders made him look fast. I remember him beating Cuco and Bruno to a ball when they had a 3/4 yard head start on him! |
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Post by trout-licker on Sept 29, 2018 22:30:46 GMT
Rotherham had a lots of tall players... an GR decided to drop our tallest and strongest defender and replace him with Willams. I would love to hear his reasoning for that, if he has any. Shawcross deserved to be dropped. I doudt he would have done much better than Williams today anyway. They're both past their best. |
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 29, 2018 22:33:47 GMT
Well they scored after a corner and all of their attacking players were rather slow. You joking? Smith was pretty fast for someone so tall - or at least our defenders made him look fast. I remember him beating Cuco and Bruno to a ball when they had a 3/4 yard head start on him! Well he is not the slowest.. but Souttar's pace would not have been a problem, because Williams is slower and Indi is about the same. |
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Post by samba :) on Sept 29, 2018 23:12:04 GMT
If ryan was on the pitch smith wouldn't have won anywhere near as much if the ball
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 29, 2018 23:17:21 GMT
Lack of height wasn’t the reason we didn’t win. I agree, a fat slow lumbering centre back was the reason. |
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Post by biglad180 on Sept 30, 2018 14:39:41 GMT
I would play shawcross every day over Williams. and we should forget about soutter no where near good enough
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 1, 2018 12:33:53 GMT
Dropping Shawcross was basically to give him a jolt, I expect to see him back against Bolton. Williams was chosen for his ball playing skills apparently, unfortunately though he's slower than an asthmatic snail
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 12:45:31 GMT
Souttar would have been a better option than Williams for sure. I don't think so, I've seen milk turn quicker than Souttar. This. I mean, I know we've been shit defensively, but I'm not at all convinced that Souttar is the answer. In fact, quite the opposite. Happy to be proved wrong. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 1, 2018 12:49:25 GMT
I only saw the highlights against Forest but from what I saw Souttar is nowhere near ready for the first team. And where did this thing about him having pace come from? He looked like a carthorse to me.
As poor as Williams was I'd give the Williams/Indicate partnership another go. Shawcross needs time on the bench - not least to establish Woods position as captain.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Oct 1, 2018 12:54:55 GMT
Shawcross should be brought back in, leave woods as Captain and let shawcross concentrate on winning headers.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 1, 2018 13:13:32 GMT
Everyone is assuming that Ryan would win headers - is it just me or has he been a lot less dominant in the air since he had his bad back, which looks like it prevents him jumping as well as he used to?
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Post by fazza90 on Oct 1, 2018 13:26:15 GMT
Everyone is assuming that Ryan would win headers - is it just me or has he been a lot less dominant in the air since he had his bad back, which looks like it prevents him jumping as well as he used to? This. People saying Souttar 'isn't ready' based purely on him losing a crucial header v Forest is ridiculous as Shawcross has been losing headers frequently over a much longer period. At least Souttar is young & can improve - at this moment in time I'd rather stick with him than Williams |
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