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Post by Waggy on Sept 29, 2018 18:41:56 GMT
Rowett truthful on interview. Just needs sort it out now. I still have the faith.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 29, 2018 18:42:52 GMT
He always does but they always let him down.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 29, 2018 18:44:15 GMT
He's absolutely spot on.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 29, 2018 18:47:19 GMT
I still like Rowett.
The players who let us down week in week out need to get a fucking grip of themselves instead of wallowing in their on self pity. They're grown adults for fuck sake. Just do the fucking basics for the full 90.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 29, 2018 22:35:10 GMT
I agree the players need to have a look at themselves, most of them are internationals capped for their countries on numerous occasions and are playing like a pub team. Rowett can only send them out with a gameplan,he can't grow a pair of bollocks for them when we go one down and play for them. The team he has sent out for every game this season should be capable of winning every game in this league but pride and bollocks have to come from each player on the day aswell as talent.
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 29, 2018 22:37:15 GMT
We have no leaders out there , we are soft as shit
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Post by DC1863 on Sept 29, 2018 22:43:35 GMT
The defence needs to get back to basics, youth can only improve whereas the likes of Williams are on the decline (rapidly) and will never improve us.
Let’s have a bit of ambition and try to turn Edwards and/or Souttar into half decent defenders, they simply cannot do any worse than the likes of Williams and Martina today.
Other clubs always bring their youth through why are Stoke City so absurdly shite at producing youngsters? Give them a run of games hopefully until January and who knows we may not need to replace them after all.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 29, 2018 22:52:40 GMT
Totally agree dazzercd and the reason other clubs young players go on and succeed is because they are given a bloody chance to do so. Give the Souttars and the like a chance and if they are not good enough then what have we lost? We are shite at the back anyway right now.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 29, 2018 22:57:23 GMT
I haven't heard his comments.
But whatever he says..
A win in the next game is essential.
It's a results business. End of.
And if he doesn't deliver he deserves the sack.
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Post by trout-licker on Sept 29, 2018 23:01:43 GMT
I'm starting to really feel sorry for Rowett. He was clearly lied too before he came about the quality of defence and wasn't backed to sign a defender until the loan window.
He's got us scoring goals but there is nothing he can do about individual defensive errors that 9 times out of 10 end up costing us goals.
He's fighting a losing battle. Hopefully he'll be backed in January, we need a whole new defence.
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Post by pb1863 on Sept 29, 2018 23:02:09 GMT
Totally dominated the first half and it wss crying out for Bojan to come on at half time to add creativity
I don’t think there first goal was a penalty, their second was handball and our throw in for our equaliser shouldn’t have been.
We can’t defend corners and we can’t attack ours. I still think it will come together soon.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Sept 29, 2018 23:04:04 GMT
I quite like GR, think he's more than capable at this level and has built (literally) half of a very good Championship team.
The defence are absolutely letting him and us down every single week, and I'll hold my hands up and say I didn't think they'd be this shit.
I'd just play Souttar and Edwards for every game when fit. They cannot be any worse than the shit already on the pitch and they're young enough to hopefully develop into good players.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 29, 2018 23:13:37 GMT
I'm starting to really feel sorry for Rowett. He was clearly lied too before he came about the quality of defence and wasn't backed to sign a defender until the loan window. He's got us scoring goals but there is nothing he can do about individual defensive errors that 9 times out of 10 end up costing us goals. He's fighting a losing battle. Hopefully he'll be backed in January, we need a whole new defence. Lied to about the quality of the defense... Who lied and isn’t the manager supposed to be able to assess his squad and bring in reinforcements if necessary. He’s signed off on two complete donkeys. In fact they are worse that the other donkeys we already had in the donkey sanctuary. He’s made the defense worse |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 29, 2018 23:26:21 GMT
I'm starting to really feel sorry for Rowett. He was clearly lied too before he came about the quality of defence and wasn't backed to sign a defender until the loan window. He's got us scoring goals but there is nothing he can do about individual defensive errors that 9 times out of 10 end up costing us goals. He's fighting a losing battle. Hopefully he'll be backed in January, we need a whole new defence. Lied to about the quality of the defense... Who lied and isn’t the manager supposed to be able to assess his squad and bring in reinforcements if necessary. He’s signed off on two complete donkeys. In fact they are worse that the other donkeys we already had in the donkey sanctuary. He’s made the defense worse 100% this. I’m tired of hearing that the defensive situation is not Rowett’s fault. He owns it, and it’s going to be his downfall if he can’t figure it out sharpish. |
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Post by trout-licker on Sept 30, 2018 0:10:10 GMT
Lied to about the quality of the defense... Who lied and isn’t the manager supposed to be able to assess his squad and bring in reinforcements if necessary. He’s signed off on two complete donkeys. In fact they are worse that the other donkeys we already had in the donkey sanctuary. He’s made the defense worse 109% this. I’m tired of hearing that the defensive situation is not Rowett’s fault. He owns it, and it’s going to be his downfall if he can’t figure it out sharpish. The owners bigged us up to Rowett and I'm sure he was shocked about the appalling defence we've got. We didn't go all out to sign Chester when he was available because the men upstairs didn't want to spend the coin on a position they thought was good enough. After publicly saying he didn't like loans he was forced to last minute because we needed numbers in defence. |
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Post by trout-licker on Sept 30, 2018 0:18:48 GMT
Lied to about the quality of the defense... Who lied and isn’t the manager supposed to be able to assess his squad and bring in reinforcements if necessary. He’s signed off on two complete donkeys. In fact they are worse that the other donkeys we already had in the donkey sanctuary. He’s made the defense worse 109% this. I’m tired of hearing that the defensive situation is not Rowett’s fault. He owns it, and it’s going to be his downfall if he can’t figure it out sharpish. How can he stop defenders from making individual mistakes every game? |
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Sept 30, 2018 0:38:04 GMT
109% this. I’m tired of hearing that the defensive situation is not Rowett’s fault. He owns it, and it’s going to be his downfall if he can’t figure it out sharpish. The owners bigged us up to Rowett and I'm sure he was shocked about the appalling defence we've got. We didn't go all out to sign Chester when he was available because the men upstairs didn't want to spend the coin on a position they thought was good enough. After publicly saying he didn't like loans he was forced to last minute because we needed numbers in defence.
This certainly APPEARS to have been the situation to all of us who simply DON'T KNOW the 'ins and outs' of it all
On paper, Williams and Martina LOOKED as if they could do a job at this level; but unfortunately, they aren't even up to Championship standard 
I've said elsewhere, Everton must be laughing their tits off at us right now.
Can we give these blokes back in January and get some decent defenders in, or are we stuck with them on a year-long loan?? |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 30, 2018 0:42:29 GMT
109% this. I’m tired of hearing that the defensive situation is not Rowett’s fault. He owns it, and it’s going to be his downfall if he can’t figure it out sharpish. How can he stop defenders from making individual mistakes every game? By signing defenders that don't make mistakes every fucking game. Unfortunately, he didn't do that, and it's now too late. |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 30, 2018 0:45:13 GMT
109% this. I’m tired of hearing that the defensive situation is not Rowett’s fault. He owns it, and it’s going to be his downfall if he can’t figure it out sharpish. The owners bigged us up to Rowett and I'm sure he was shocked about the appalling defence we've got. We didn't go all out to sign Chester when he was available because the men upstairs didn't want to spend the coin on a position they thought was good enough. After publicly saying he didn't like loans he was forced to last minute because we needed numbers in defence. Bigged us up? Rowett is supposedly a top up and coming manager. Are you suggesting he didn't assess the state of the squad before taking the job? If that's the case, he deserves the sack. If it's true that he was prevented from improving the defence, he should have walked. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 30, 2018 1:08:16 GMT
The owners bigged us up to Rowett and I'm sure he was shocked about the appalling defence we've got. We didn't go all out to sign Chester when he was available because the men upstairs didn't want to spend the coin on a position they thought was good enough. After publicly saying he didn't like loans he was forced to last minute because we needed numbers in defence. Bigged us up? Rowett is supposedly a top up and coming manager. Are you suggesting he didn't assess the state of the squad before taking the job? If that's the case, he deserves the sack. If it's true that he was prevented from improving the defence, he should have walked. And so he’s dammed if he does and he’s dammed if he doesn’t ! Have you ever been on jury service? |
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Post by scfcrmagic on Sept 30, 2018 3:17:32 GMT
I think we need to get a grip ...we need to back the manager,not call for his head... otherwise we’re gonna look like bloomin Henry VIII.
it takes time to change stuff at Stoke, we all know that ..and it takes time to build a team that can work together, and once we got that, we need to be planning ahead and looking to develop the youth team and sort out the recruitment polic. We need to have a back up plan ....and some decent scouting for talent.
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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 30, 2018 3:17:35 GMT
The owners bigged us up to Rowett and I'm sure he was shocked about the appalling defence we've got. We didn't go all out to sign Chester when he was available because the men upstairs didn't want to spend the coin on a position they thought was good enough. After publicly saying he didn't like loans he was forced to last minute because we needed numbers in defence. Bigged us up? Rowett is supposedly a top up and coming manager. Are you suggesting he didn't assess the state of the squad before taking the job? If that's the case, he deserves the sack. If it's true that he was prevented from improving the defence, he should have walked. Didnt Lambert come here saying that between tea at his mums house and taking the job that he had researched and knew all the details of the squad players he was taking over? Apparently GR didn’t. If the pizza boys “bigged us up” in GRs job interview and he couldn’t assess the squad on his own then, as stated above, he deserves the sack. If he couldn’t work out what most people could see about improving the defense...same. Just as a side issue for you Gary I have a bridge in Texas that I have for sale at present. A Jaguar XJS with a Miata engine and a couple of genuine Jimi Hendricks Strats (both right handed) |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 30, 2018 4:11:14 GMT
Bigged us up? Rowett is supposedly a top up and coming manager. Are you suggesting he didn't assess the state of the squad before taking the job? If that's the case, he deserves the sack. If it's true that he was prevented from improving the defence, he should have walked. And so he’s dammed if he does and he’s dammed if he doesn’t ! Have you ever been on jury service? He damned because he's royally fucked up, simple as that. I really do hope he can find a way to turn it around, but I fear he's crippled himself from the very start by failing to address well documented and long-standing issues. To try and absolve him of any blame for that is just pure ignorance. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 4:43:12 GMT
January we should raid the Championship for its best defenders
Guaranteed then
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 5:11:45 GMT
And so he’s dammed if he does and he’s dammed if he doesn’t ! Have you ever been on jury service? He damned because he's royally fucked up, simple as that. I really do hope he can find a way to turn it around, but I fear he's crippled himself from the very start by failing to address well documented and long-standing issues. To try and absolve him of any blame for that is just pure ignorance. 🎯👍👏 |
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Post by Waggy on Sept 30, 2018 7:19:31 GMT
And so he’s dammed if he does and he’s dammed if he doesn’t ! Have you ever been on jury service? He damned because he's royally fucked up, simple as that. I really do hope he can find a way to turn it around, but I fear he's crippled himself from the very start by failing to address well documented and long-standing issues. To try and absolve him of any blame for that is just pure ignorance. The defence is the problem and he was told we don't need any new defenders because that area is fine. Silly mistakes are costing us. |
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Post by jeycov on Sept 30, 2018 7:25:27 GMT
I'm starting to really feel sorry for Rowett. He was clearly lied too before he came about the quality of defence and wasn't backed to sign a defender until the loan window. He's got us scoring goals but there is nothing he can do about individual defensive errors that 9 times out of 10 end up costing us goals. He's fighting a losing battle. Hopefully he'll be backed in January, we need a whole new defence. We need two centre backs who have some pace I would like to see both Souttar and Edwards given a chance, they’ll make mistakes but are young enough to learn from them They need to be playing |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 30, 2018 7:25:57 GMT
And so he’s dammed if he does and he’s dammed if he doesn’t ! Have you ever been on jury service? He damned because he's royally fucked up, simple as that. I really do hope he can find a way to turn it around, but I fear he's crippled himself from the very start by failing to address well documented and long-standing issues. To try and absolve him of any blame for that is just pure ignorance. Even if that is the case which I don't believe it's all his own doing, if we we are patient and don't demand to go up first time, another summer and we are going to look a good team when we have spent the summer putting it right? Why would we want to change now when the manager can see the issue and we look good on the rest of the pitch? We look to be on the verge of settling down other than defence it would be sad to undo that and bring in a manager that has different plans making some players redundant. This manager has Berahino looking the player we were hoping we had bought; he's brought in afobe a good goalscorer who is looking good playing alongside Berahino. Woods looks buy of the season making Allen & our overall play look better. Give him next summer to fix the defence and we will be a good outfit imo, he's obviously well aware of it and is as frustrated as anybody about it. For me I'd be happier going up next year anyway because by then the dead wood will be gone and we will be in a stronger position to have a solid start to the premiership. without needing to clear a whole load of shite we will be able to add where it's needed on an all ready sound platform. Need to see it for what it is, it's been a big ask to change everything in one summer, all things considered I think it looks good for the future for the first time in too long. |
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Post by Billybigbollox on Sept 30, 2018 7:56:39 GMT
Rowett truthful on interview. Just needs sort it out now. I still have the faith. We haven’t got any choice really Colin. We have to stick with him for the time being. I hope he can turn things around, but he must realise how frustrating it is to be a Stoke fan at the moment |
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Post by underdog on Sept 30, 2018 7:59:26 GMT
No pen having watched it several times.. they looked streets ahead of Rotherham. It's coming good.
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