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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 27, 2018 18:16:09 GMT
Last night. I fully accept that Fletcher was pants, BMI hopeless and Bauer beyond hopeless but the performance of crouch was truly a special kind of shit.
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Post by werrington on Sept 27, 2018 18:21:55 GMT
Last night. I fully accept that Fletcher was pants, BMI hopeless and Bauer beyond hopeless but the performance of crouch was truly a special kind of shit. Is he still offside? Joking aside he was poor but I’ve gone past criticism as he doesn't pick himself What I will say though is Berahino is getting laced on here for missing that header last night and his penalty last Saturday but I saw not one mention of the Crouch missed header last Saturday? |
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Sept 27, 2018 18:31:34 GMT
Extremely poor. I don’t watch us every week not even on streams but he offered nothing at forest. This target man crap is outdated anyhow. With the ball on the floor good forwards can make stuff happen if they are hungry enough. Even with it in the air but to have a specific plan to just whack it onto someone’s head and hope they can do something with it. Stone Age stuff. Bring Campbell in and get him proper involved. Let him learn and play. For the future of the club.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 18:50:59 GMT
What can you say about Crouch that hasn't been said before? He's too good to retire, but he's not good enough to play on a regular basis. He'll play four futile games, but in the fifth he comes on and scores an important goal, sometimes the winner. I'm just surprised that our three last managers cannot see that he's not a starter anymore, he's just the nearly perfect sub, at least evry once in a while. But when he starts defenders/opposition coaches have time to work out a strategy to nullify him, and it's really easy to do so. But when he comes on with 10 minutes to go, he strikes fear and panic into tired defenders who at that stage don't have the energy to do that nullifying thing. That's where and when he's useful.
Crouch has been at this club longer than any other club he's been in his lengthy career. Yet none of our managers have been able to use him as anything other than the tall guy. Which belies the fact that he's a useful skilled player with his feet. I mean he's not Neymar or Messi, but he can play a bit. But we've never taken that approach with Crouch in the team, often because the whole team plays half a mile away from Crouch. Not Pulis (not surprisingly), not our tika taka loving Hughes, not Lambert, and certainly not Rowett. Yet they all continued to pick him, and extending his contracts.
Which makes me wonder why Crouch has stayed here so long, where he has been deprived of the opportunity to actually play football, where he lost his place in the England team, where he spends a lot of time not playing at all.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2018 22:20:06 GMT
Last night. I fully accept that Fletcher was pants, BMI hopeless and Bauer beyond hopeless but the performance of crouch was truly a special kind of shit. Is he still offside? Joking aside he was poor but I’ve gone past criticism as he doesn't pick himself What I will say though is Berahino is getting laced on here for missing that header last night and his penalty last Saturday but I saw not one mention of the Crouch missed header last Saturday? Yeh but he's a nice guy off the pitch so its not the same, he can miss sitters day after day as long as he tells a funny joke. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 22:36:14 GMT
His podcast is shit, and I'm bored of seeing him on the pitch.
Lovely lovely bloke, great servant but honestly I'd rather see Campbell get a run of games off the bench it's time to look forwards......
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Post by Absolution on Sept 27, 2018 23:09:25 GMT
Last night. I fully accept that Fletcher was pants, BMI hopeless and Bauer beyond hopeless but the performance of crouch was truly a special kind of shit. Is he still offside? Joking aside he was poor but I’ve gone past criticism as he doesn't pick himself What I will say though is Berahino is getting laced on here for missing that header last night and his penalty last Saturday but I saw not one mention of the Crouch missed header last Saturday? Great point. Nothing against Crouch at all, but the timing of the criticism of Berahino’s misses when he’s finally started to get into goal scoring positions and is actually scoring seems bizarre. He’s now scored four times in a month (including the Burundi goal), yet it seems like some people are re-doubling their efforts to get him gone. So his external habits are a bit scuzzy, I really couldn’t give one if he starts to get back to being the player he once was. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 28, 2018 7:15:20 GMT
The only way forward is a
Berahino / Afobe partnership.
Either on their own with Bojan creating behind
We have to keep playing Berahino. Finally he is showing as the player he was when he first burst onto the scene with WBA
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Post by ursemboys on Sept 28, 2018 7:19:04 GMT
Is he still offside? Joking aside he was poor but I’ve gone past criticism as he doesn't pick himself What I will say though is Berahino is getting laced on here for missing that header last night and his penalty last Saturday but I saw not one mention of the Crouch missed header last Saturday? Great point. Nothing against Crouch at all, but the timing of the criticism of Berahino’s misses when he’s finally started to get into goal scoring positions and is actually scoring seems bizarre. He’s now scored four times in a month (including the Burundi goal), yet it seems like some people are re-doubling their efforts to get him gone. So his external habits are a bit scuzzy, I really couldn’t give one if he starts to get back to being the player he once was. If you take a look you will find its the same people who do the moaning about Saido and they will twist everything to back up there moans. |
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Post by neddy on Sept 28, 2018 7:19:14 GMT
The only way forward is a Berahino / Afobe partnership. Either on their own with Bojan creating behind We have to keep playing Berahino. Finally he is showing as the player he was when he first burst onto the scene with WBA I thought on the off chance we may get ahead on Saturday Crouch would have been a useful sub if they are bombarding us from corners free kicks etc? |
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Post by Danstoke82 on Sept 28, 2018 7:27:14 GMT
I like Crouch but there is no way he should be remotely near first team selection anymore.
Totally immobile and blatantly obvious the way we will play with him in the team.
Should of been let go in the summer and replaced with the loan signing of someone like Tammy Abraham. Shame the board didn't see it that way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 7:32:09 GMT
Our kicking and corners have been awful this season. Yes he’s missed some sitters but that hasn’t helped either
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Post by werrington on Sept 28, 2018 7:37:44 GMT
Our kicking and corners have been awful this season. Yes he’s missed some sitters but that hasn’t helped either They’ve been awful for 6 seasons now ....not just this |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 28, 2018 8:34:51 GMT
The only way forward is a Berahino / Afobe partnership. Either on their own with Bojan creating behind We have to keep playing Berahino. Finally he is showing as the player he was when he first burst onto the scene with WBA I agree with this, Rowett needs to recognise this. A 4312 for me is worth a run of games With etebo, woods & Adam (Yes Adam) , bojan/ ince in a number 10 role behind the 2 main strikers. I'd even put McLean at left back and move pieters left side central to avoid playing B&M, plus pieters offers a bit more pace. Perservere with edwards at right back and Shawcross/Williams fills the other slot. GK ( NOT bothered which one ) Edwards Shawcross Pieters McLean Etebo woods Adam Bojan/ince Berahino afobe This team will win games imo. More food for thought on McLean at left back....... www.punditarena.com/football/nmenezes/food-thought-james-mcclean-make-ideal-left-back/ |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Sept 28, 2018 9:12:29 GMT
Probably helped that in the first half he was that far away I couldn't see him.  |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 28, 2018 9:22:37 GMT
Maybe he should focus less on his media career?
It's an utter joke that he's near the first team and as I've said before is just a sad indictment of the decline of the club from January 2016 onwards.
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Post by redwhite on Sept 28, 2018 11:06:54 GMT
Crouch is a last roll of the dice player - and quite an effective one. You simply cannot have him starting.
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Post by robstokie on Sept 28, 2018 14:03:45 GMT
As much as I love Crouchy, hes only good nowadays for coming on for the last 20 mins if we are chasing a game and are playing with 2 wingers who will bombard the opposition with crosses. Let's face it, he doesn't offer much else, he can't hold the ball up, he hasn't got the quality with the ball at his feet or the vision to link up play and he hasn't got the legs to either exploit space in behind the centre-halves or to press the opposition when they build from the back.
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Post by RF10 on Sept 28, 2018 14:08:16 GMT
It's the sort of performance you expect a 37 year old to make.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 14:31:29 GMT
Is he still offside? Joking aside he was poor but I’ve gone past criticism as he doesn't pick himself What I will say though is Berahino is getting laced on here for missing that header last night and his penalty last Saturday but I saw not one mention of the Crouch missed header last Saturday? Great point. Nothing against Crouch at all, but the timing of the criticism of Berahino’s misses when he’s finally started to get into goal scoring positions and is actually scoring seems bizarre. He’s now scored four times in a month (including the Burundi goal), yet it seems like some people are re-doubling their efforts to get him gone. So his external habits are a bit scuzzy, I really couldn’t give one if he starts to get back to being the player he once was. Crouch has a lot of credit with everyone, even those who are not fans of his. Berahino, on the other hand, his credit is well below zero, although his one league goal and his vastly improved perforrmances will soon change the tune. |
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Sept 28, 2018 16:41:37 GMT
Crouchy has, and rightly so, started to concentrate of forging himself a media career. He knows his days are numbered on the pitch but if we are still happy to pay him/play him then he's going to turn up for a game isn't he.
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 28, 2018 16:52:41 GMT
The only way forward is a Berahino / Afobe partnership. Either on their own with Bojan creating behind We have to keep playing Berahino. Finally he is showing as the player he was when he first burst onto the scene with WBA A forward 3 of Afobe, Berahino and Bojan is just full of goals. It's up to the manager to devise a system to make it happen. It's not rocket science, you play goalscorers. |
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Sept 28, 2018 19:27:43 GMT
The only way forward is a Berahino / Afobe partnership. Either on their own with Bojan creating behind We have to keep playing Berahino. Finally he is showing as the player he was when he first burst onto the scene with WBA A forward 3 of Afobe, Berahino and Bojan is just full of goals. It's up to the manager to devise a system to make it happen. It's not rocket science, you play goalscorers.
100% 
Crouch should be NOWHERE the starting XI
Oh - and tighten up the defence......simples |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 28, 2018 22:37:56 GMT
Crouchie is an honest pro who whilst his best playing days are almost certainly behind him, will always put a shift in and despite what's been said above has a good touch for a big bloke. His goals saved us from relegation sooner than we eventually did when the talent pool around him shrank and managers and owners lost the plot - and he cannot be blamed for being picked. I personally would have him as impact sub but this clowns starting him because he has no fucking idea what the hell hes doing.....
So a bit less of the abuse - save it for the real cunts at this club....
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 29, 2018 0:28:54 GMT
Crouchie is an honest pro who whilst his best playing days are almost certainly behind him.... I like the “almost” inserted in this sentence.. presumably you think he has an outside chance of an England recall at some point in the future  |
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Post by Gods on Sept 29, 2018 2:32:16 GMT
The only way forward is a Berahino / Afobe partnership. Either on their own with Bojan creating behind We have to keep playing Berahino. Finally he is showing as the player he was when he first burst onto the scene with WBA A forward 3 of Afobe, Berahino and Bojan is just full of goals. It's up to the manager to devise a system to make it happen. It's not rocket science, you play goalscorers. Berahino and Bojan have 1 league goal between them in the last two and a half seasons. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 29, 2018 2:51:11 GMT
A forward 3 of Afobe, Berahino and Bojan is just full of goals. It's up to the manager to devise a system to make it happen. It's not rocket science, you play goalscorers. Berahino and Bojan have 1 league goal between them in the last two and a half seasons. Stop trying to hide behind statistics, PLAY the fucking goal scorers just don’t provide the fucking ammunition ! |
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 29, 2018 7:45:16 GMT
A forward 3 of Afobe, Berahino and Bojan is just full of goals. It's up to the manager to devise a system to make it happen. It's not rocket science, you play goalscorers. Berahino and Bojan have 1 league goal between them in the last two and a half seasons. Bojan hasn't played a full league game in two and a half seasons. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 29, 2018 7:49:07 GMT
Crouchie is an honest pro who whilst his best playing days are almost certainly behind him.... I like the “almost” inserted in this sentence.. presumably you think he has an outside chance of an England recall at some point in the future Nah - it was more a case of if, in some parallel universe we were storming this league to finish as champs and Crouchie had waded in with 15 goals say, then he / we may have viewed this as one of his finest footballing achievements - ordinarily a reasonable expectation but actually a complete and utter pipe dream with The Marx brothers in charge!! I still believe Crouchie has a key role to play in using his experience and skills but not in the way the mentalist Rowett is setting out his stall... |
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