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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 26, 2018 21:11:14 GMT
Surely we must concentrate on the league, cut out the shit defending start to put a run of good results together and make a push for the top 6. I hate it when we lose but there really are bigger fish to catch than a cup that most teams couldn't give a fuck about (yes I know it's the only major trophy we've won but it meant something then). Gouranga.  |
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Post by citynickscfc on Sept 26, 2018 21:12:40 GMT
we do not have the depth of squad for this league and the cup, nor just this league. The pizza boys and Coates are to blame for that as the clubs constant and planning department.
So resoundingly YES. todays team showed that
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Post by adamsson on Sept 26, 2018 21:13:54 GMT
Only if we get a new manager
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2018 21:15:47 GMT
Only if we get a new manager Can he bring an entire new defence with him or is he going to have to wait until the transfer window too, the only way this mess is sorted is when shift out this crap and get a new back four in. |
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 26, 2018 21:16:36 GMT
Yeah, losing matches is doing us a big favour.
Christ on a bike.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 26, 2018 21:19:47 GMT
Only if we get a new manager Can he bring an entire new defence with him or he going to have to wait until the transfer window too, the only way this mess is sorted is when shift out this crap and get a new back four in. He's already brought in half a defence ffs. You're making shit up. |
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Post by SCFC92 on Sept 26, 2018 21:22:25 GMT
Whilst a loss is never welcomed, we can put our efforts into more important issues now.
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Post by citynickscfc on Sept 26, 2018 21:22:41 GMT
Can he bring an entire new defence with him or he going to have to wait until the transfer window too, the only way this mess is sorted is when shift out this crap and get a new back four in. He's already brought in half a defence ffs. You're making shit up. Actually he was denied the right to bring in the half he wanted by the pizza boys if you are to believe this FFP and financial talk.... There's no way you say you don't do loans then panic and loan 2 from the same team. This is way too obvious. He wasn't backed. The pizza boys have failed for far far far too many millions (and years). We need a fresh start, a fucking plan |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 21:24:48 GMT
I can’t believe there are still some people that actually believe that we can push for the play offs.
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Post by adamsson on Sept 26, 2018 21:26:09 GMT
I can’t believe there are still some people that actually believe that we can push for the play offs. Maybe in league one next year |
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Post by fca47 on Sept 26, 2018 21:26:26 GMT
Tries all different players but we keep shipping goals, rather than the players could it be the system?
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 26, 2018 21:29:35 GMT
He's already brought in half a defence ffs. You're making shit up. Actually he was denied the right to bring in the half he wanted by the pizza boys if you are to believe this FFP and financial talk.... There's no way you say you don't do loans then panic and loan 2 from the same team. This is way too obvious. He wasn't backed. The pizza boys have failed for far far far too many millions (and years). We need a fresh start, a fucking plan Pity you didn't cut Hughes the same slack when he was denied all the players he wanted. |
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Post by corkstokie on Sept 26, 2018 21:32:42 GMT
Didn't see the game so can't comment. 3-2 didn't surprise me after 3-0 - It's easy to go on the offensive when the pressure is off [any different to Blackburn???]. Why not 3-3 or 3-4, that would have been an achievement?
As poor as we've ever been but with a gluttonous cupboard of past-it's or don't care's
No solutions tonight sorry just miserable
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 21:33:17 GMT
He's already brought in half a defence ffs. You're making shit up. Actually he was denied the right to bring in the half he wanted by the pizza boys if you are to believe this FFP and financial talk.... There's no way you say you don't do loans then panic and loan 2 from the same team. This is way too obvious. He wasn't backed. The pizza boys have failed for far far far too many millions (and years). We need a fresh start, a fucking plan He's spent 40M. If that isn't backing then I need a pay rise. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 26, 2018 21:34:17 GMT
Yes done us a massive favour because drawing one of the prem teams who have been a cricket score
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Post by spikey2972 on Sept 26, 2018 21:52:35 GMT
This season has Sunderland situation written all over it.they most probably thought they would go for promotion or at least get in the play offs.but like us they underestimated the teams in the championship.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 21:53:24 GMT
I can’t believe there are still some people that actually believe that we can push for the play offs. You don't know much about football then. Anything can happen especially as we're only in September. All it takes is a nice little cup run to gain confidence and then continue on with the form with our never say die approach which has seen us very nearly overturn 2 0-3 deficits. Well we wasted the opportunity for the cup run tonight with a team selection that said we don't care about winning, but we did show some decent fighting spirit eventually, and the substitutions and tactical changes showed that we have a little more in our locker. Now all we need is a few decent players, about 16 will do, and we will start picking up results someday, maybe not soon, but someday at least. And with this new found confidence burst, we'll start one of our traditional autumm/winter unbeaten runs and before you know it we're not pushing for the play-offs, we're chasing automatic promotion. Already the supposed runaway leaders have started faltering, so play it cool, our chance may yet come. Someday. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 26, 2018 21:56:05 GMT
I can’t believe there are still some people that actually believe that we can push for the play offs. Maybe in league one next year Indeed. That's his level. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 26, 2018 21:56:08 GMT
Only if we get a new manager Can he bring an entire new defence with him or he going to have to wait until the transfer window too, the only way this mess is sorted is when shift out this crap and get a new back four in. Well he bought in half a defence in the summer, we just need a couple more signings like Williams and Martina and that will sort it out? |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 26, 2018 22:02:27 GMT
No - a modest cup run and a top 6 prem team in next round might have stirred the players and support alike - but it was not to be and we go out with a whimper ,again.....
Absolute shit-show....
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 26, 2018 22:09:25 GMT
No, because we have not gained anything from getting knocked out, it's just added to the losing mentality.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2018 23:41:23 GMT
Can he bring an entire new defence with him or he going to have to wait until the transfer window too, the only way this mess is sorted is when shift out this crap and get a new back four in. He's already brought in half a defence ffs. You're making shit up. He's brought in a right back and a back up CB, we both know more was needed it was never enough, and if what Lawrence said is true I'm surprised he's still here regardless of the money he's on. In regards to making shit up, how am I, do we or do we not need a new defence. |
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Post by citynickscfc on Sept 27, 2018 3:10:16 GMT
Actually he was denied the right to bring in the half he wanted by the pizza boys if you are to believe this FFP and financial talk.... There's no way you say you don't do loans then panic and loan 2 from the same team. This is way too obvious. He wasn't backed. The pizza boys have failed for far far far too many millions (and years). We need a fresh start, a fucking plan Pity you didn't cut Hughes the same slack when he was denied all the players he wanted. I personally think I gave him around 18 months of decline before I went over to the out camp. It took so long for us to stagnate and deteriorate. I liked him as a manager for a good while until it became clear the wheels had come off. I think that's the definition of cutting slack? |
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Post by kustokie on Sept 27, 2018 3:44:30 GMT
A big part of the problem is everyone still sees Stoke as a big team so every match is their Cup Final. Avoiding relegation is hard. Getting back again is even harder. Just about every team in the Championship has been in the top division at one time or another. Six teams in League One are also former top tier teams.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 27, 2018 4:00:03 GMT
No it hasn't done us a favour.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 27, 2018 4:14:16 GMT
Some thought relegation was doing us a favour.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Sept 27, 2018 4:24:09 GMT
He's already brought in half a defence ffs. You're making shit up. He's brought in a right back and a back up CB, we both know more was needed it was never enough, and if what Lawrence said is true I'm surprised he's still here regardless of the money he's on. What has Lawrence said. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 27, 2018 4:52:37 GMT
He's brought in a right back and a back up CB, we both know more was needed it was never enough, and if what Lawrence said is true I'm surprised he's still here regardless of the money he's on. What has Lawrence said. Something about our recruitment team telling Rowett that our defence was fine, we only needed to strengthen midfield and attack. Yes, you heard it right! |
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Post by Waggy on Sept 27, 2018 4:54:07 GMT
Yes
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 27, 2018 5:46:33 GMT
How would liam lawrence know anything about what was said to rowett about 'not touching the defence'.
Nonsense.
Like many of us last season, he thought the defence would be ok once we sorted the midfield.
The defenders in question performed far better last season at a higher level than they are under Rowett.
Rowett appears to have had a hugely negative impact on our defenders. There seems to be a lack of fitness, intensity, organisation, communication
Rowett is fucking useless
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