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Post by crownmeking on Dec 29, 2018 17:05:20 GMT
Hate to say it, TOLD YA SO! Fucking chancer and charlatan galore keeps on failing to deliver week after week. Hate to say it, but you've put it in capitals and bold. You were wrong to say it weeks ago when we were playing well, don't pretend it suddenly makes you 'right all along' when things get worse after you started saying it. Like me, Texas has been saying it for a while now. If you're right you're right.
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Post by Sfance on Dec 29, 2018 17:06:05 GMT
"Errr . . . there's a fuss?"
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Post by Pirate on Dec 29, 2018 17:06:59 GMT
Nope, that was a stupid sub by Rowett. Some things are the manager's issue and some are the player's issue. What do you see Rowett improving? Do you see him signing the kind of players who fit his system? Do you see him injecting some creativity in somewhere? What’s going to change that make him worth persevering with? This sums it up perfectly. Normally i would say its to early to be calling for a change but there has been no hint that he will do anything other than what he has done for 90% of our games this season. He clearly ostracizes certain players & plays favorites with others which is crippling his ability to change things if he did have the desire, which i dont think he does, i think he believes we are playing well, Macclean is brilliant & the fans are just know nothing ungrateful shits.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 29, 2018 17:06:59 GMT
What do you see Rowett improving? Do you see him signing the kind of players who fit his system? Do you see him injecting some creativity in somewhere? What’s going to change that make him worth persevering with? I have no idea, I don't know what he's going to do and today has put me close to wanting him out. Who says I have to be in love with the manager and think he should stay forever just because I don't think it's his fault that Joe Allen is shit? It's his fault he's playing him. You’ve just been a reasonably staunch defender of his and I wondered what the argument was for keeping him.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 29, 2018 17:07:21 GMT
GOODBYE GARY YOU DID YOUR BEST (TO RUIN US)
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 29, 2018 17:07:39 GMT
Hate to say it, TOLD YA SO! Fucking chancer and charlatan galore keeps on failing to deliver week after week. Hate to say it, but you've put it in capitals and bold. You were wrong to say it weeks ago when we were playing well, don't pretend it suddenly makes you 'right all along' when things get worse after you started saying it. Weeks ago? I've been saying it for months. We were playing well? When? We've had one outstanding performance versus Derby. The rest have all seen is us play into other teams strengths, losing leads and dropping points versus clubs who've invested in Shola Fucking Ameobi with a "10" run unbeaten run only to tread water versus clubs like Bolton. I've been saying it since week fucking 5 mate. That is months! Lets not alter your perspective because you are just now seeing the light.
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Post by ilfracoombestokie3 on Dec 29, 2018 17:07:45 GMT
Just get Denise in too sort this shit out, we are Wank & need a complete overhaul.
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Post by mistergumby on Dec 29, 2018 17:08:27 GMT
Wheres the excitement and the passion ? tiny bit v Derby but that was it. Team play is utter tripe PASHURRRRRN!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 17:09:04 GMT
Yeh that for me looses Rowett his job. The 10 unbeaten was a good run that put us to the minimum of where we should be - but after the poor performance against Brum we should have been all out to make up for it today.
We didn't.
That was 10 times more disappointing than the Brum game for me.
He had a great chance today to turn things around but pissed it away.
He had a thankless job to do when he came in, but just doesnt do himself any favours.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 17:09:06 GMT
Hate to say it, but you've put it in capitals and bold. You were wrong to say it weeks ago when we were playing well, don't pretend it suddenly makes you 'right all along' when things get worse after you started saying it. Weeks ago? I've been saying it for months. We were playing well? When? We've had one outstanding performance versus Derby. The rest have all seen is us play into other teams strengths, losing leads and dropping points versus clubs who've invested in Shola Fucking Ameobi with a "10" run unbeaten run only to tread water versus clubs like Bolton. I've been saying it since week fucking 5 mate. That is months! Lets not alter your perspective because you are just now seeing the light. Even worse, if you were saying it months ago then you were saying it far too early. Changing your mind based on evidence is better than blindly sticking to what you said 3 months ago. We've had far more good games than just Derby.
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Post by bamx19 on Dec 29, 2018 17:09:07 GMT
Just another manager who doesn't know how to work with what he has. I can't imagine that the players are too happy with him either.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 29, 2018 17:09:22 GMT
GOODBYE GARY YOU DID YOUR BEST (TO RUIN US) Repeat
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Dec 29, 2018 17:11:35 GMT
Piss off Rowett face
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 29, 2018 17:12:31 GMT
Get out you fucking joker.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 17:12:50 GMT
I have no idea, I don't know what he's going to do and today has put me close to wanting him out. Who says I have to be in love with the manager and think he should stay forever just because I don't think it's his fault that Joe Allen is shit? It's his fault he's playing him. You’ve just been a reasonably staunch defender of his and I wondered what the argument was for keeping him. At the minute, the Villa, QPR, Derby and Reading games have him just at the right side of 'sack him' on my scale. He's close though.
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Post by harryh157 on Dec 29, 2018 17:15:20 GMT
Get him gone; we could sneak a play off place with a different manager. Even if not the games may be worth going to watch again.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 29, 2018 17:15:35 GMT
Weeks ago? I've been saying it for months. We were playing well? When? We've had one outstanding performance versus Derby. The rest have all seen is us play into other teams strengths, losing leads and dropping points versus clubs who've invested in Shola Fucking Ameobi with a "10" run unbeaten run only to tread water versus clubs like Bolton. I've been saying it since week fucking 5 mate. That is months! Lets not alter your perspective because you are just now seeing the light. Even worse, if you were saying it months ago then you were saying it far too early. Changing your mind based on evidence is better than blindly sticking to what you said 3 months ago. We've had far more good games than just Derby. Far too early? I could see this coming from miles away. I've stated the evidence as to "why" all the time. The way he trapsed into the locker room as if he was some fucking messiah only brought angst, discontent and division. The fucking nutjob deserves every bit of stick and its all because of his inability to "manage" people and bite his tongue when he's wrong. He's an indefensible asshole who thinks he fucking knows his shit. Well, he doesn't and it is quite obvious with him subbing in Etebo for Ince and starting McClean today a five year old on football manager can figure that one out. He's a joke of a "professional" manager one I've never seen have such undue hype coming into a job. You can have those "good" games, i'd rather of beaten teams on one 20th our wage bill or investment.
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Post by milky on Dec 29, 2018 17:15:37 GMT
Anyone still defending Rowett is a fucking idiot.
No offence..
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Post by StatesideStokie on Dec 29, 2018 17:18:41 GMT
We've had far more good games than just Derby. Really? Which ones? We were ok’ish against Villa but still mangerd to fuck it up. Other than that, we’ve been fucking awful. And that’s being kind.
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Post by bamx19 on Dec 29, 2018 17:19:50 GMT
Nope, that was a stupid sub by Rowett. Some things are the manager's issue and some are the player's issue. What do you see Rowett improving? Do you see him signing the kind of players who fit his system? Do you see him injecting some creativity in somewhere? What’s going to change that make him worth persevering with? His system is the problem. You can't take over a team that is as shit as we were/are and make it fit a system right away. You need to be an actual fucking manager and get the most out of what you have until you can sign players to fit your system. The bummer is that Coates will allow this to go on until this time next year just like he did with Hughes.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 29, 2018 17:21:31 GMT
What do you see Rowett improving? Do you see him signing the kind of players who fit his system? Do you see him injecting some creativity in somewhere? What’s going to change that make him worth persevering with? His system is the problem. You can't take over a team that is as shit as we were/are and make it fit a system right away. You need to be an actual fucking manager and get the most out of what you have until you can sign players to fit your system. The bummer is that Coates will allow this to go on until this time next year just like he did with Hughes. Agree with most of that, though with the resources available it should be easier to put your stamp on a team sooner. Other managers in this league have done that. His system is unfathomable, it’s hard to see what we’re trying to achieve with it.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 29, 2018 17:22:53 GMT
Gary Rowett was walking his dog on a cliff , the dog falls onto the beach below , Gary gets down to the beach to find the dog dead He walks away crying and kicks a bottle in anger and to his amazement a genie emerges and thinks him for freeing him .The genie then grants him two wishes to which Gary says bring my dog back alive , the genie looks at the dog and says sorry Gary your dog is dead He then asks Gary his second wish and Gary says please please make my Stoke side win a game of football , the genie looks at Gary scratches his chin and says I will have another look at your dog 😎
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Post by Stoke711 on Dec 29, 2018 17:23:09 GMT
Time to go. We cannot carry on like this. We look like the team who has just won promotion and out of their depth.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 29, 2018 17:27:56 GMT
Gary Rowett was walking his dog on a cliff , the dog falls onto the beach below , Gary gets down to the beach to find the dog dead He walks away crying and kicks a bottle in anger and to his amazement a genie emerges and thinks him for freeing him .The genie then grants him two wishes to which Gary says bring my dog back alive , the genie looks at the dog and says sorry Gary your dog is dead He then asks Gary his second wish and Gary says please please make my Stoke side win a game of football , the genie looks at Gary scratches his chin and says I will have another look at your dog 😎 That's fucking so true 😂
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Post by george2again on Dec 29, 2018 17:28:56 GMT
A text on the bus from the owners would be great straight after his usual condescending interview. He deserves no respect how he speaks about the fans. Get him gone tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 17:31:08 GMT
Even worse, if you were saying it months ago then you were saying it far too early. Changing your mind based on evidence is better than blindly sticking to what you said 3 months ago. We've had far more good games than just Derby. Far too early? I could see this coming from miles away. I've stated the evidence as to "why" all the time. The way he trapsed into the locker room as if he was some fucking messiah only brought angst, discontent and division. The fucking nutjob deserves every bit of stick and its all because of his inability to "manage" people and bite his tongue when he's wrong. He's an indefensible asshole who thinks he fucking knows his shit. Well, he doesn't and it is quite obvious with him subbing in Etebo for Ince and starting McClean today a five year old on football manager can figure that one out. He's a joke of a "professional" manager one I've never seen have such undue hype coming into a job. You can have those "good" games, i'd rather of beaten teams on one 20th our wage bill or investment.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 29, 2018 17:31:34 GMT
I've been trying to be positive for a long time, but now we have come to a crossroads where I really can't defend this. We are playing NO 22 in the league without creating one really good scoring opportunity for the whole game. After the Birmingham game I was really hoping we would look more positive and really show that we are a team with abition. Unfortunately it was more of the same and I can't see how Rowett can turn this around any more. I would end his contract before the window opens as I can't see anyone doing much worse with the resources at his disposal. If we continue with this anti-football we will end up with nobody bothering to watch. If Pulis-ball was bad at its worst this is really worse in my opinion. Sorry Gary, but I've lost my faith in you completely. I hope we won't do the Hughes mistake again and wait until it's too late. Rowett OUT!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 17:31:40 GMT
Really? Which ones? We were ok’ish against Villa but still mangerd to fuck it up. Other than that, we’ve been fucking awful. And that’s being kind. We played well vs. Derby, QPR, Villa and Reading.
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Post by bamx19 on Dec 29, 2018 17:31:59 GMT
His system is the problem. You can't take over a team that is as shit as we were/are and make it fit a system right away. You need to be an actual fucking manager and get the most out of what you have until you can sign players to fit your system. The bummer is that Coates will allow this to go on until this time next year just like he did with Hughes. Agree with most of that, though with the resources available it should be easier to put your stamp on a team sooner. Other managers in this league have done that. His system is unfathomable, it’s hard to see what we’re trying to achieve with it. Thus my whole underlying point...He is really a shit manager. We have the resources and half way through the season, we are no better off than we were at the beginning of the season.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 29, 2018 17:33:29 GMT
Far too early? I could see this coming from miles away. I've stated the evidence as to "why" all the time. The way he trapsed into the locker room as if he was some fucking messiah only brought angst, discontent and division. The fucking nutjob deserves every bit of stick and its all because of his inability to "manage" people and bite his tongue when he's wrong. He's an indefensible asshole who thinks he fucking knows his shit. Well, he doesn't and it is quite obvious with him subbing in Etebo for Ince and starting McClean today a five year old on football manager can figure that one out. He's a joke of a "professional" manager one I've never seen have such undue hype coming into a job. You can have those "good" games, i'd rather of beaten teams on one 20th our wage bill or investment. A thousand miles from nowhere actually. 😎 Feel free to go through each weeks post match thread and or this one. It's all there.
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