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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 18, 2018 22:19:27 GMT
Should have got MOTM tonight, had a lot of stick lately and rightly so as he’s been poor. I think Woods holding the midfield together will allow Allen to come back out his shell. Another win Saturday now please!
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Post by trout-licker on Sept 18, 2018 22:22:22 GMT
Surprised Woods got MOM, thought Allen was better. Both had good games but Allen edged it for me.
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Post by Bagwash on Sept 18, 2018 22:29:28 GMT
Agree,back to form for Joe,long may it continue.
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Post by Gods on Sept 18, 2018 22:30:42 GMT
Woods is on honeymoon.
Allen is our 'whipping boy du jour' at the moment.
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 18, 2018 22:32:49 GMT
I’m not sure about this at all. Take away his (offside) goal and his performance was patchy at best. His work rate is good but his passing and decision making at times are dreadful. He’s never looked the same player in a Stoke shirt as I remember him being for Liverpool or Wales for that matter.
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Sept 18, 2018 22:33:20 GMT
Surprised Woods got MOM, thought Allen was better. Both had good games but Allen edged it for me. Woods was the difference between us winning and losing that game. Simple as that. He barely misplaced a pass all night. Was in the right place on two key Swansea breaks and had a massive second wind in the last twenty which he wasn’t able to find on sat, Allen’s best performance in a long while but woods clearly MOTM tonight. |
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Post by innocentbystander on Sept 18, 2018 22:34:45 GMT
Agree with OP - MOM.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 18, 2018 22:40:55 GMT
I’m not sure about this at all. Take away his (offside) goal and his performance was patchy at best. His work rate is good but his passing and decision making at times are dreadful. He’s never looked the same player in a Stoke shirt as I remember him being for Liverpool or Wales for that matter. Agree. He was better but his first touch is still poor and he wasn’t anywhere mom for me. Hopefully he’ll continue to get better |
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Post by mattythestokie on Sept 18, 2018 22:50:00 GMT
Be interesting to see how many interceptions he made compared to everyone else.
He seemed to be everywhere.
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Post by Bombus on Sept 18, 2018 22:57:16 GMT
Marvellous performance from wee Joe tonight, especially that second half. Won't you agree, Bayern?  |
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Post by Pricey on Sept 18, 2018 22:57:40 GMT
Be interesting to see how many interceptions he made compared to everyone else. He seemed to be everywhere. Trouble is if he gives the ball away as many times as he wins it back they cancel each other out and we're essentially left with Taz of Taz-Mania fame, only with a nice ball across to Afobe in the first half and the only goal in a 1-0 win. Taz never did that did he? |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Sept 18, 2018 23:00:23 GMT
Opinions eh, I thought he was average again, his first touch invariably ends in his 2nd touch being a tackle.
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Post by trout-licker on Sept 18, 2018 23:01:12 GMT
Surprised Woods got MOM, thought Allen was better. Both had good games but Allen edged it for me. Woods was the difference between us winning and losing that game. Simple as that. He barely misplaced a pass all night. Was in the right place on two key Swansea breaks and had a massive second wind in the last twenty which he wasn’t able to find on sat, Allen’s best performance in a long while but woods clearly MOTM tonight. Woods was quiet 1st half which was mainly down to Swansea pressing him. Allen won the ball back on many occasions, was decentish with the ball at his feet and he got the goal. Better of the 2 for me. |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Sept 18, 2018 23:03:59 GMT
Woods was the difference between us winning and losing that game. Simple as that. He barely misplaced a pass all night. Was in the right place on two key Swansea breaks and had a massive second wind in the last twenty which he wasn’t able to find on sat, Allen’s best performance in a long while but woods clearly MOTM tonight. Woods was quiet 1st half which was mainly down to Swansea pressing him. Allen won the ball back on many occasions, was decentish with the ball at his feet and he got the goal. Better of the 2 for me. Felt he should have been stepping back ten yards first twenty mins which would have allowed us to use woods. Him and etebo just stayed up and left the defence zero options, woods had 4 men on him. |
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Post by jontimmis on Sept 18, 2018 23:05:33 GMT
His energy was superb can be better in possession but I thought Joe did well tonight personally. Keep it up Joe and bring on satdee
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 23:08:15 GMT
Allen was fucking brilliant tonight.
He clearly knew he had a wank game last time out, flying in with tackles, 110% effort and closing down, making positive runs.
Certainly not perfect though, there were misplaced passes etc.
But very well done tonight, MOM for me. Woods a close 2nd.
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Post by RF10 on Sept 18, 2018 23:10:21 GMT
Great performance. His normal hectic / energetic display paid off. Having Woods in the midfield allows him to do what he does best, Allen was at his best previously when he had Whelan in the midfield. Without that type of midfielder he isn't the same and can get caught out.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 18, 2018 23:11:34 GMT
He was marginally better than in recent weeks, but he’s still the weak link in that midfield. He loses the ball far too often and doesn’t do much else.
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Post by Pricey on Sept 18, 2018 23:14:00 GMT
He was marginally better than in recent weeks, but he’s still the weak link in that midfield. He loses the ball far too often and doesn’t do much else. Fucking hell. He laid it on a plate for Afobe in the first half and scored the winner in the second. So should have only been a goal and an assist. |
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Post by jontimmis on Sept 18, 2018 23:14:11 GMT
He did score though right?
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Post by rorystowel on Sept 18, 2018 23:22:32 GMT
He did score though right? Technically, no, he was offside. But for once we got a dodgy refereeing decision going our way! |
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Post by Pricey on Sept 18, 2018 23:26:25 GMT
He did score though right? Technically, no, he was offside. But for once we got a dodgy refereeing decision going our way! That should be technically, yes. Because he did score. It was a goal. We won 1-0. If there was VAR in our league however... |
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Post by rorystowel on Sept 18, 2018 23:27:44 GMT
Technically, no, he was offside. But for once we got a dodgy refereeing decision going our way! That should be technically, yes. Because he did score. It was a goal. We won 1-0. If there was VAR in our league however... Haha yes, you’re right on both points! |
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Post by StatesideStokie on Sept 19, 2018 0:02:32 GMT
He was marginally better than in recent weeks, but he’s still the weak link in that midfield. He loses the ball far too often and doesn’t do much else. Fucking hell. He laid it on a plate for Afobe in the first half and scored the winner in the second. So should have only been a goal and an assist. Doesn’t change the fact that he’s the weak link and gives the ball away far too often and is generally a bit shit. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 19, 2018 0:42:41 GMT
Still shouldn’t be in the team.
It should be Etebo and Woods behind Bojan or Berahino, with Afobe up top.
He’s a nothing player.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 19, 2018 1:19:20 GMT
Still shouldn’t be in the team. It should be Etebo and Woods behind Bojan or Berahino, with Afobe up top. He’s a nothing player. Bang on, he’s better than nothing but not better than Bojan or Berahino. After the goal he’s undroppable and will not be subbed unless he gets injured |
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Post by TexasPotter on Sept 19, 2018 1:23:02 GMT
I’ve been giving him stick like no other but hands down it is a complete 180 of a performance to Sheffield Wednesday!
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Post by kustokie on Sept 19, 2018 1:28:23 GMT
I’ve been giving him stick like no other but hands down it is a complete 180 of a performance to Sheffield Wednesday! More like a 90 degrees turn in the right direction. He was an one incorrect onside away from getting another slagging off. I was calling from him to be replaced about 5 minutes before he scored, which saved him from another roasting and made me look like an idiot (which is fairly common so I am used to it!) |
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Sept 19, 2018 1:34:04 GMT
Still shouldn’t be in the team. It should be Etebo and Woods behind Bojan or Berahino, with Afobe up top. He’s a nothing player. Bang on, he’s better than nothing but not better than Bojan or Berahino. After the goal he’s undroppable and will not be subbed unless he gets injured
That's the problem now....I think he was marginally better today than he has been, but he has been really poor.
Maybe, he'll gather himself up and go on from here? |
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Post by kustokie on Sept 19, 2018 1:46:47 GMT
Bang on, he’s better than nothing but not better than Bojan or Berahino. After the goal he’s undroppable and will not be subbed unless he gets injured
That's the problem now....I think he was marginally better today than he has been, but he has been really poor.
Maybe, he'll gather himself up and go on from here? I hope so too. He was great when he first came to Stoke on the heels of excellent World Cups performances and he scored fairly frequently. He was MOM at least once and I believe he was top scorer for awhile, picking up crumbs inside the box like he did today. Let’s hope he kicks on from here. |
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