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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 15, 2018 16:31:35 GMT
We have to look at dropping all 3 as their inclusion is stopping us from being a very good side.
Bojan for Allen
Bauer or Berahino for Diouf
Williams for Shawcross
V Blackburn
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Post by redwhite on Sept 15, 2018 16:37:19 GMT
Allen and Shawcross will start, Diouf will be dropped if McClean is available or if he tries to accommodate Berahino. Or Crouch.
Happy days.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 15, 2018 16:49:36 GMT
Allen and Shawcross will start, Diouf will be dropped if McClean is available or if he tries to accommodate Berahino. Or Crouch. Happy days. McCleans out for 6 weeks |
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Post by metalhead on Sept 15, 2018 16:50:10 GMT
The undroppables.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 15, 2018 16:52:14 GMT
I’d put Woods in as skipper too. Leads by example. Tries to be positive.
I’d like to see there first again to see who was accountable but it looked shocking.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 15, 2018 16:55:15 GMT
With a bit of luck,Rowett will fuck off to another club and take the 3 of them with him.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 15, 2018 16:56:49 GMT
In fairness Allen had a few good moments today.
But when it counted he just wasn’t good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 16:57:02 GMT
You could say that about Rowett's balls. |
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Post by Block 22 on Sept 15, 2018 16:58:13 GMT
Give Bakary Sako what he wants to sign him up. Free agent. Tricky, powerful winger.
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Post by block23 on Sept 15, 2018 17:01:16 GMT
Not been today so cannot comment on how these three played. Just seen goals and short highlights, first goal, Bruno loses his man and from that point on we were exposed. What did Shawcross do wrong? Genuine question
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Post by redwhite on Sept 15, 2018 17:06:32 GMT
Allen and Shawcross will start, Diouf will be dropped if McClean is available or if he tries to accommodate Berahino. Or Crouch. Happy days. McCleans out for 6 weeks I’d imagine Rowett is still tempted... |
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Post by gezzer on Sept 15, 2018 17:08:31 GMT
What did Shawcross do right more like. Wandered around just outside the box; shockingly mistimed back passes to Butland; pointed a lot; and mre sideways passes than a drunk crab.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 15, 2018 17:11:48 GMT
What did Shawcross do right more like. Wandered around just outside the box; shockingly mistimed back passes to Butland; pointed a lot; and mre sideways passes than a drunk crab. That’s why I think Williams should play ahead of him he’s 100 times better with the ball at his feet. Ryan just isn’t comfortable with it at his feet. Always looks to pass back slows us down puts us under pressure. |
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Post by rorystowel on Sept 15, 2018 17:30:04 GMT
What did Shawcross do right more like. Wandered around just outside the box; shockingly mistimed back passes to Butland; pointed a lot; and mre sideways passes than a drunk crab. You forgot the countless times he tried to start a Mexican wave. It winds me up every time he stops and sticks his hand up to claim offside, and I’ve lost count of how many times it’s cost us. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 17:32:34 GMT
The old guard are costing us. Simple as that.
We should have bought in 1 if not 2 younger, pacey centre backs. If Chupo was going we should have bought in a good quality left winger.
We got Williams and McClean.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 15, 2018 17:38:56 GMT
The old guard are costing us. Simple as that. We should have bought in 1 if not 2 younger, pacey centre backs. If Chupo was going we should have bought in a good quality left winger. We got Williams and McClean. We should have been all over Mepham from Brentford (surprise surprise). He's got an assist for us this season too! |
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Post by metalhead on Sept 15, 2018 17:39:07 GMT
You could say that about Rowett's balls. Don't worry. We all go down together. Remember? |
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Sept 15, 2018 17:49:41 GMT
I thought Bruno was worse than Ryan to be honest, that doesn’t say much mind.
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Post by xnfourt on Sept 16, 2018 8:32:02 GMT
We need Rowett to grow some balls and drop these two players...Anyone who's played in a team and have players who are constantly Poor..still start matches..And other players do get dropped for playing OK..That causes alot of redemption in the camp...And not a Team...
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 16, 2018 8:34:53 GMT
We need Rowett to grow some balls and drop these two players...Anyone who's played in a team and have players who are constantly Poor..still start matches..And other players do get dropped for playing OK..That causes alot of redemption in the camp...And not a Team... So you think Indi played better than Shawcross yesterday then!?  |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 16, 2018 8:37:11 GMT
You can bet your house,if they are fit,they will both play on Tuesday along with ( Miss ) Diouf.
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Post by Jimmyg on Sept 16, 2018 23:41:54 GMT
can't blame the defensive centre halves at this stage as we're not defending as a team yet,the ball for the goal was very unexpected ,think it was as much as shock to their forwards as anyone,they just happened to be in the right position.
The defensive partership has worked in the past as both are competent players on their day , I think the competition from Williams is good and we should hopefully start to see a more settled defence.my only concern would be the two fullbacks .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 2:18:27 GMT
BMI was as much at fault for the longball-goal as Shawcross but he hasn't come in for any flak at all really. Does he also need dropping?
So drop Shawcross for whom - Williams? He's no better than Shawcross (Maybe slightly more comfortable passing) and certainly no faster! Martina at CB to accommodate Bauer? Not going to happen, Rowett would go with Edwards over Bauer and As much as I want Tom to succeed, we need a few games with a fixed back line.
Allen needs a game on the bench for a number of reasons. EDIT* - I think when fit, Rowett will go:
Etebo
Clucas Woods
I think Allen will go in January along with Diouf and probably Bobo
Are we really going to play Berahino or Afobe on the wing? Diouf for all his many faults is the best option we have...
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 17, 2018 5:11:41 GMT
We have to look at dropping all 3 as their inclusion is stopping us from being a very good side. Bojan for Allen Bauer or Berahino for Diouf Williams for Shawcross V Blackburn I struggle to see why some people want to keep Indi, but replace Shawcross. Shawcross is without doubt our most important player on set pieces as he wins almost everything in the air (defensively). I can also see that he should have been paired up with someone who is much quicker, but Indi and Williams don't possess much pace unfortunately. We need another central defender with more pace and a left back in the next window. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 17, 2018 5:37:36 GMT
Larry , Curly and Mo
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Post by sportsman on Sept 17, 2018 5:51:38 GMT
We have to look at dropping all 3 as their inclusion is stopping us from being a very good side. Bojan for Allen Bauer or Berahino for Diouf Williams for Shawcross V Blackburn I struggle to see why some people want to keep Indi, but replace Shawcross. Shawcross is without doubt our most important player on set pieces as he wins almost everything in the air (defensively). I can also see that he should have been paired up with someone who is much quicker, but Indi and Williams don't possess much pace unfortunately. We need another central defender with more pace and a left back in the next window. Your struggle to find a slower two centre backs in any division in England. |
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 17, 2018 9:08:09 GMT
Allan, Biggest mistake of the summer probably a very costly one.
Diouf, Ryan and Pieters a result of at least four poor Windows where there's been no attempt to improve the playing stock in those positions.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 10:09:53 GMT
Poor Mame got an assist and everything  I don't think he's in the Allen Shawcross bracket (yet), though. He's aided an own goal, got an assist and has offered something in his 4 games this season. He's not as good as he was, but he's showing more than the last few games of last season. We do need a winger in January though. |
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Post by RF10 on Sept 17, 2018 10:11:25 GMT
This Shawcross bashing is getting embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 10:17:44 GMT
This Shawcross bashing is getting embarrassing. Sadly his performances are just as embarrassing, time to go. |
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I don't think he's in the Allen Shawcross bracket (yet), though. He's aided an own goal, got an assist and has offered something in his 4 games this season. He's not as good as he was, but he's showing more than the last few games of last season.
