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Post by thevoid on Sept 3, 2018 6:42:57 GMT
Last season was exceptional in that all three promoted clubs stayed up, Newcastle, Brighton, and Huddersfield. The reason I believe was excellent teamwork resulting in great synergy. Burnley were another team who performed better than their squad strength would suggest, resulting in them comfortably exceeding expectations. I for one expected the Burnley bubble to burst and it didn't, as was the case with Leicester a few years ago when they were Champions. Teamwork will win points, but if you don't have true talent in side then results can turn against you if the teamwork starts breaking down. A club needs to have some exceptionally talented players to survive in the Prem. The Burnley team are essentially a year older and have added little strength. If Dyche can't keep the passion going, then they will slip down the table. The same is true at Newcastle, Brighton, and Huddersfield. Fortunately for them I believe two of the promoted clubs, Cardiff and Fulham, are not as good as they were when they were promoted a year ago. Therefore we might return to the usual formula of 1 or 2 promoted sides going straight back down, coupled with 1 or 2 the sides that narrowly avoided relegation the previous season, which would be Huddersfield or Southampton. Fulham will be fine. |
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Post by pb1863 on Sept 3, 2018 7:12:27 GMT
It’s SJW who is the lucky charm.
When SJW joined us we started to climb, when he left us we struggled , when he joined Burnley they climbed the table and as soon as he left they have hit the wall. Let’s see if the luck of the Irish goes with him to Ipswich. Could be worth a small BET365 investment on the tractor boys
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 7:45:20 GMT
It’s SJW who is the lucky charm. When SJW joined us we started to climb, when he left us we struggled , when he joined Burnley they climbed the table and as soon as he left they have hit the wall. Let’s see if the luck of the Irish goes with him to Ipswich. Could be worth a small BET365 investment on the tractor boys Maybe it has something to do with his character and what he brings to the party in the background, out of view to us supporters? |
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Post by tijuanabrass on Sept 3, 2018 8:27:48 GMT
Rashford has some stones on him squaring up to Bards. A red card and an early shower means he was probably the luckiest man at Turf Moor.
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Post by redstriper on Sept 3, 2018 9:19:56 GMT
They were lucky at times last season, but they worked hard for it. They'll be fine and I hope they are, but why would we want dyche - there was a reason why we got rid of TP.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 9:29:23 GMT
It would have been good to see Bards drop the cnut!
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Post by Davef on Sept 3, 2018 11:24:36 GMT
It would have been good to see Bards drop the cnut! Bardsley was too busy trying (and succeeding) to get Rashford sent off. Embarrassing from a so-called "hard man". |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 3, 2018 12:34:03 GMT
It would have been good to see Bards drop the cnut! Bardsley was too busy trying (and succeeding) to get Rashford sent off. Embarrassing from a so-called "hard man". Experience. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 3, 2018 13:12:03 GMT
So Burnleys recent success is all down to luck? To think ten years ago some of us would break out into a fit of mardarsery if we were considered to be disrespected by someone.
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Post by shangamuzo on Sept 3, 2018 13:12:52 GMT
Eliminated from Europa League before reaching group stages 1 point from 4 games in PL Gash team which was riding on it's luck However Dyche's luck seems to be running out and to me look odds on for relegation How many other managers have got the same club back up into the Prem twice ? A great achievement in itself with a little club like Burnley. |
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Post by rawli on Sept 3, 2018 20:00:05 GMT
So Burnleys recent success is all down to luck? To think ten years ago some of us would break out into a fit of mardarsery if we were considered to be disrespected by someone. Not down to luck at all - Dyche is a good manager. However, they did have some luck last season - plenty of last minute goals going in which do need to drop for you and the failure of teams below them to do anything - didn't they go on a run of 10 games without a win and dropped 1 place? |
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Post by pulisfan on Sept 3, 2018 20:25:30 GMT
They were lucky at times last season, but they worked hard for it. They'll be fine and I hope they are, but why would we want dyche - there was a reason why we got rid of TP. Yeah, that's gone well hasn't it ? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 20:28:44 GMT
They were lucky at times last season, but they worked hard for it. They'll be fine and I hope they are, but why would we want dyche - there was a reason why we got rid of TP. Yeah, that's gone well hasn't it ? Yes it did. We had our 3 best finishes ever in the premier league in the 3 seasons after he left. |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Sept 3, 2018 21:19:01 GMT
Burnley's problem is that they still see themselves as a plucky championship club defying the odds.
They should have beaten what is a relatively weak Olympiacos. They were England's 7th best team after all, they didn't qualify through fair play or whatever
They didn't sign quality this summer, again they think they aren't able to despite having the same tv money as everyone else
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Sept 3, 2018 21:20:01 GMT
They were lucky at times last season, but they worked hard for it. They'll be fine and I hope they are, but why would we want dyche - there was a reason why we got rid of TP. Yeah, that's gone well hasn't it ? Our problems have nothing to do with sacking pulis. |
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Post by TheProletarian on Sept 3, 2018 22:26:25 GMT
He’s a great manager and should lead them to a decent finish at the end of 2018/19. Can’t slag him off so early in the season! I’d never do that about any manager! Wait...
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Post by thevoid on Sept 3, 2018 22:54:07 GMT
They were lucky at times last season, but they worked hard for it. They'll be fine and I hope they are, but why would we want dyche - there was a reason why we got rid of TP. Yeah, that's gone well hasn't it ? Hughes was fine until he turned into Pulis. |
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Post by Glory Hunter on Sept 4, 2018 1:13:36 GMT
He’s a great manager and should lead them to a decent finish at the end of 2018/19. Can’t slag him off so early in the season! I’d never do that about any manager! Wait... I live about 300 yards from Sean Dyche, he was in my local a few weeks ago (the Wooden Walls of Old England, Collingtree Northampton), and would love him to be our next manager - I would be seeking lifts to and from the game and giving him some tactical advice on the way of course. Deepest voice in the Prem. |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 4, 2018 16:27:13 GMT
He’s a great manager and should lead them to a decent finish at the end of 2018/19. Can’t slag him off so early in the season! I’d never do that about any manager! Wait... I live about 300 yards from Sean Dyche, he was in my local a few weeks ago (the Wooden Walls of Old England, Collingtree Northampton), and would love him to be our next manager - I would be seeking lifts to and from the game and giving him some tactical advice on the way of course. Deepest voice in the Prem.
Voicewise, he's the Prem's Tone Loc
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Post by rawli on Sept 4, 2018 16:45:05 GMT
He’s a great manager and should lead them to a decent finish at the end of 2018/19. Can’t slag him off so early in the season! I’d never do that about any manager! Wait... I live about 300 yards from Sean Dyche, he was in my local a few weeks ago (the Wooden Walls of Old England, Collingtree Northampton), and would love him to be our next manager - I would be seeking lifts to and from the game and giving him some tactical advice on the way of course. Deepest voice in the Prem. Funny how managers don't live locally any more. Tony always lived in Sandbanks. Where did Hughes live? |
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Post by metalhead on Sept 4, 2018 19:35:59 GMT
I live about 300 yards from Sean Dyche, he was in my local a few weeks ago (the Wooden Walls of Old England, Collingtree Northampton), and would love him to be our next manager - I would be seeking lifts to and from the game and giving him some tactical advice on the way of course. Deepest voice in the Prem. Funny how managers don't live locally any more. Tony always lived in Sandbanks. Where did Hughes live? Pulis lived in Wychwood Park didn't he? |
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Post by rawli on Sept 4, 2018 19:55:39 GMT
Funny how managers don't live locally any more. Tony always lived in Sandbanks. Where did Hughes live? Pulis lived in Wychwood Park didn't he? Thought he was always going back to Debs at Sandbanks. That's why he needed his licence to serve the people of SOT. |
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Post by Old School Stokie on Sept 4, 2018 20:51:03 GMT
Can Walters Manage? Get him in then
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 4, 2018 21:49:36 GMT
Pulis lived in Wychwood Park didn't he? Thought he was always going back to Debs at Sandbanks. That's why he needed his licence to serve the people of SOT. Pulis rented a place on Wychwood (or the club did) where he stayed over during the week. Main residence is near Dodgy 'arry on Sandbanks. Hughes lives in Alderley Edge. |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 4, 2018 21:55:28 GMT
It’s far easier to take a mid to lower Championship club and get them into Europe than take a non top 7 Premier League club and keep them there. There are managers who’ve done the former and it looks like an incredible achievement but fewer clubs have done the latter.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 5, 2018 0:31:13 GMT
I don't think we are in any position to take the piss out of Dyche, to be honest. He was the fans favorite to take over from Hughes, except for one small problem: Burnley was riding the crest of a wave at the time and Stoke was circling the drain. |
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Post by kustokie on Sept 5, 2018 0:35:11 GMT
So Burnleys recent success is all down to luck? To think ten years ago some of us would break out into a fit of mardarsery if we were considered to be disrespected by someone. Not down to luck at all - Dyche is a good manager. However, they did have some luck last season - plenty of last minute goals going in which do need to drop for you and the failure of teams below them to do anything - didn't they go on a run of 10 games without a win and dropped 1 place? What exactly is luck? Didn’t Alan Ball say “I don’t believe in luck, but I know you need some”. The best quote I know on the subject of luck is from Arnold Palmer after he holed out to beat Tony Jackling in the Open: “It’s funny the more I practice the luckier I get”. I prefer: “there’s no such thing as luck”. |
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