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Post by essexstokey on Aug 26, 2018 10:26:11 GMT
from bbc website link he offered to retire in 2012 at stoke as his body could not take it any more!! |
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Post by slother on Aug 26, 2018 10:33:24 GMT
Michael Owen says something interesting. Yes! Really!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 26, 2018 10:37:27 GMT
Despite those fears he was happy enough to take those extortionate wages for as long as possible.
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Post by ElworthPotter on Aug 26, 2018 10:37:38 GMT
I’m usually first in line to slag this guy off as a pundit as he bores me to tears but he gave an incredibly honest interview on BT sport about his injuries. The latter part of his career must have been very frustrating for him.
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Post by ElworthPotter on Aug 26, 2018 10:38:48 GMT
Despite those feats he was happy enough to take those extortionate wages for as long as possible. In the interview on BT he says he went to see Coates to offer to walk away from his contract. |
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Post by numfar on Aug 26, 2018 10:43:16 GMT
Despite those feats he was happy enough to take those extortionate wages for as long as possible. And you wouldn't? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 26, 2018 10:45:44 GMT
As a multi millionaire no I wouldn't.
I resigned from a well paid job without another to go to because I hated it and I haven't got a pot to piss in
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 26, 2018 11:09:06 GMT
Injuries etc aside, even when he was fit and available for us he was never used frequently enough......was it one goal he scored? Could’ve and should’ve been more wasn’t used properly in my opinion.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 26, 2018 11:13:50 GMT
Despite those feats he was happy enough to take those extortionate wages for as long as possible. In the interview on BT he says he went to see Coates to offer to walk away from his contract. Don't expect people to read the article!  Maybe this is why he's an awful pundit, he doesn't have the love for the game others have. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 26, 2018 11:16:03 GMT
Sad to here. I loved Mikey Owen growing up and I was buzzing to see him in a Stoke shirt even in the latter stages of his career.
What could have been if he wasn't plagued but injuries...
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Post by loosestools on Aug 26, 2018 11:21:34 GMT
As a multi millionaire no I wouldn't. I resigned from a well paid job without another to go to because I hated it and I haven't got a pot to piss in I did that too, I call it having backbone, conviction, spirit. Good on yer. |
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Post by loosestools on Aug 26, 2018 11:22:18 GMT
Sad to here. I loved Mikey Owen growing up and I was buzzing to see him in a Stoke shirt even in the latter stages of his career. What could have been if he wasn't plagued but injuries... He wouldn't have been at Stoke. |
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Post by miltonpotterfan on Aug 26, 2018 12:06:53 GMT
Despite those feats he was happy enough to take those extortionate wages for as long as possible. Why would you not? If clubs are offering them wages you take it! |
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Post by duckling on Aug 26, 2018 12:26:39 GMT
Despite those feats he was happy enough to take those extortionate wages for as long as possible. According to Pulis, he was on a pay as you play contract. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 26, 2018 12:36:29 GMT
Despite those feats he was happy enough to take those extortionate wages for as long as possible. According to Pulis, he was on a pay as you play contract. He was. He got 20k per week no matter what and an additional 15k if he was fit for selection, which he always was because he never played so as to get injured. He then got a host of other bonus related payments which saw him earn at least 65k for his 3 minute cameo at Swansea where he scored. Had we win the game he'd have picked up 80k for that particular week. He ended up with that contract because the football administrators at that time didn't know the transfer rules but still, there is nothing wrong with the process nor has there ever been.  |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Aug 26, 2018 16:26:30 GMT
According to Pulis, he was on a pay as you play contract. He was. He got 20k per week no matter what and an additional 15k if he was fit for selection, which he always was because he never played so as to get injured. He then got a host of other bonus related payments which saw him earn at least 65k for his 3 minute cameo at Swansea where he scored. Had we win the game he'd have picked up 80k for that particular week. He ended up with that contract because the football administrators at that time didn't know the transfer rules but still, there is nothing wrong with the process nor has there ever been. How would the transfer rules affect the contract terms he was offered? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 26, 2018 16:33:51 GMT
He was. He got 20k per week no matter what and an additional 15k if he was fit for selection, which he always was because he never played so as to get injured. He then got a host of other bonus related payments which saw him earn at least 65k for his 3 minute cameo at Swansea where he scored. Had we win the game he'd have picked up 80k for that particular week. He ended up with that contract because the football administrators at that time didn't know the transfer rules but still, there is nothing wrong with the process nor has there ever been. How would the transfer rules affect the contract terms he was offered? We thought we had the upper hand in negotiations and could add him to our squad once the transfer window closed. On discovering that wasn't the case the balance of power in negotiations shifted somewhat. |
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Post by metalhead on Aug 26, 2018 17:59:28 GMT
I seem to be in a minority of people who actually like Michael Owen. He's a shit pundit, but he was a wonderful player to watch until the latter years. I was so chuffed when we signed him, and bitterly disappointed when he never really played. That one goal he scored though was very clever and while we only had the broken and fragile Michael Owen, I would have loved to see him in his prime up top for us.
Football can be cruel and injuries probably ruined the best English striker of his generation. You could probably go further and say he wasn't just the best English striker.... he was perhaps one of the best in the world. What a shame.
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Post by jontimmis on Aug 27, 2018 1:28:33 GMT
Watched it earlier. Pissed me off to be honest with you. Last seven years I was a different player no shit!! Rooney was no different, so many players had issues that’s football!! You get old, you get injured.... sounds like a sob story..... retire at your peak then! Oh wait, money was there!! Have to pay for those horses now Michael.
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Post by ElworthPotter on Aug 27, 2018 1:53:07 GMT
Watched it earlier. Pissed me off to be honest with you. Last seven years I was a different player no shit!! Rooney was no different, so many players had issues that’s football!! You get old, you get injured.... sounds like a sob story..... retire at your peak then! Oh wait, money was there!! Have to pay for those horses now Michael. Rooney was totally different. Rooney never had the blistering pace that allowed Owen to take apart that Argentina defence in ‘98. It takes bollocks to admit that he struggled massively after injuries (which are bound happen to someone with hamstrings as short as his and he explains are probably genetic in his interview anyway) and even during/after those injuries he scored his fair share for Real Madrid, Newcastle and Man U. He also explains in his interview (as I mentioned before) that he went to Coates and offered to walk away from his contract as he didn’t feel as though he was doing it justice, but don’t let any of this get in the way of your agenda. |
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Post by jontimmis on Aug 27, 2018 2:15:54 GMT
My agenda? He was a professional footballer who had some injuries. Big whoop. Growing up Roy Keane was one of my idols he was never the same after his major injury, there are hundreds of players that probably never even made it, I know a few who had terrible injuries level 3 hamstrings tears, ruptured Achilles/snapped, ACL, the list goes on.
He had some injuries which he had to deal with had top clubs who got him through what obviously sounds like a sob story for the last 6/7 years. There are only a cluster probably I.e. messi, Ronaldo, zidane etc who were at the top of the game from young age to early mid 30s?
My agenda is, why now? If he felt that strong about it he knew he was finished before he signed at United so what was his agenda? To come on BT sport and say the last few years I was never the same and wanted to retire.. then retire and do it when you’re at the top of your game... Owen has never been short of a penny or two that’s for sure
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Post by jontimmis on Aug 27, 2018 2:20:55 GMT
Watched it earlier. Pissed me off to be honest with you. Last seven years I was a different player no shit!! Rooney was no different, so many players had issues that’s football!! You get old, you get injured.... sounds like a sob story..... retire at your peak then! Oh wait, money was there!! Have to pay for those horses now Michael. Rooney was totally different. Rooney never had the blistering pace that allowed Owen to take apart that Argentina defence in ‘98. It takes bollocks to admit that he struggled massively after injuries (which are bound happen to someone with hamstrings as short as his and he explains are probably genetic in his interview anyway) and even during/after those injuries he scored his fair share for Real Madrid, Newcastle and Man U. He also explains in his interview (as I mentioned before) that he went to Coates and offered to walk away from his contract as he didn’t feel as though he was doing it justice, but don’t let any of this get in the way of your agenda. I’m sure if you watch Rooney at 18 he used to take players on for fun!!! |
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Post by shangamuzo on Aug 27, 2018 12:56:21 GMT
As a multi millionaire no I wouldn't. I resigned from a well paid job without another to go to because I hated it and I haven't got a pot to piss in Martyr. Lol. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 27, 2018 14:45:40 GMT
My agenda? He was a professional footballer who had some injuries. Big whoop. Growing up Roy Keane was one of my idols he was never the same after his major injury, there are hundreds of players that probably never even made it, I know a few who had terrible injuries level 3 hamstrings tears, ruptured Achilles/snapped, ACL, the list goes on. He had some injuries which he had to deal with had top clubs who got him through what obviously sounds like a sob story for the last 6/7 years. There are only a cluster probably I.e. messi, Ronaldo, zidane etc who were at the top of the game from young age to early mid 30s? My agenda is, why now? If he felt that strong about it he knew he was finished before he signed at United so what was his agenda? To come on BT sport and say the last few years I was never the same and wanted to retire.. then retire and do it when you’re at the top of your game... Owen has never been short of a penny or two that’s for sure Hindsight is a wonderful thing. He won the Ballon d'Or - why wouldn't he think he could at least try, and when you've done something all your life, it must be scary not knowing what will come next, however much you get paid. I wonder what sort of career an injury-free Dean Ashton would've had |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 16:02:55 GMT
Despite those fears he was happy enough to take those extortionate wages for as long as possible. ....and we were daft enough to pay him 🤔😠😁 |
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Post by essexstokey on Aug 27, 2018 16:59:10 GMT
Despite those fears he was happy enough to take those extortionate wages for as long as possible. ....and we were daft enough to pay him 🤔😠😁 Lets ignore then the extra supporters, the marketing value, the extra kits with owen on the back , the raising of the image of the club that his signing gave us not only hear in the uk but around the world. no wonder we said no when he offered to retire early!! Its a bit like the effect we have with crouch at the moment he gives us status and marketing power and image in the world of football and this is more valuable to us than the number of games he gets. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 19:43:52 GMT
....and we were daft enough to pay him 🤔😠😁 Lets ignore then the extra supporters, the marketing value, the extra kits with owen on the back , the raising of the image of the club that his signing gave us not only hear in the uk but around the world. no wonder we said no when he offered to retire early!! Its a bit like the effect we have with crouch at the moment he gives us status and marketing power and image in the world of football and this is more valuable to us than the number of games he gets. Agreed mate heady days I thought we'd have forever 😭 |
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Post by ElworthPotter on Aug 27, 2018 20:04:16 GMT
Rooney was totally different. Rooney never had the blistering pace that allowed Owen to take apart that Argentina defence in ‘98. It takes bollocks to admit that he struggled massively after injuries (which are bound happen to someone with hamstrings as short as his and he explains are probably genetic in his interview anyway) and even during/after those injuries he scored his fair share for Real Madrid, Newcastle and Man U. He also explains in his interview (as I mentioned before) that he went to Coates and offered to walk away from his contract as he didn’t feel as though he was doing it justice, but don’t let any of this get in the way of your agenda. I’m sure if you watch Rooney at 18 he used to take players on for fun!!! Clearly I never said he didn’t taken people on. But he didn’t have his whole game based around running off the shoulder of the last man and although not slow pace wasn’t his stand out main attribute in the way Owen relied on it. |
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Post by maccat on Aug 27, 2018 21:39:42 GMT
The saddest thing for me is southhampton away last game ,wehad tommy sorrenson who loved our club knowing it was his last game game up to the massive stoke following ,I tried to. Start oh tommy tommy ...etc but was drowned out by one Michael Owen,there's only one ...the mercenary .....I saw him score his only goal at Swansea ..how many fine saves did tommy save for us ...tommy looked gutted ,he gave his all for Stoke
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Post by jontimmis on Aug 27, 2018 21:56:54 GMT
He just needs to get on with it. I don’t think I’ve heard Shearer, Keane have a moan, maybe I’m wrong.
Put it in a book Michael. Make some money off it 🙏
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